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Post by Sundae on May 21, 2017 18:15:19 GMT -6
If you're in the other place (or even not since guests can post) come weigh in. We're trying to circle the wagons back up to make this thing work. politicsorwhat.freeforums.net/thread/31/next-stepsFrom Sterling: Okay guys hi. I've been thinking all day. I am vaguely caught up but have admittedly not been on the other forum, talked to anyone there or here before posting this thread, and am speaking as me, Sterling. Not as an admin of anything. I'm still considering today a day of rest, and rocksforludo that was per Yahweh, not Jesus. But you were right on the also me part. So here are the items I think people should think about, but not necessarily debate tonight. I don't have it in me, I don't think anyone else does either. Of course it's a free internet and posting can happen anywhere anytime. And I am the boss of no one. So. In my estimation here are the three things I'd like us to consider as a group. These are I think the higest priority and lowest effort. Other decisions like boards and colors and mods can happen easily later, but these are the three biggest places to start. 1) where do we post I think it's a new, third place that starts without an emergency situation driving it. Like, can people access freeforums.net? The name is tbd but will likely be decided not by committee because who cares. 2) who admins This is clutch. I need recommendations as most people I know are on parenting and it doesn't need to be a parenting exclusively managed forum. I need loss moms, I need the IF vets, I need bmb representation, gku people, etc. No one needs 3 references and last addresses to be vetted, but for the love of fuck don't nominate yourself if you're crazy. 3) what are the rules These will be basic and likely draw from TCF. It worked. Objections should be voiced. So we have some decisions to make. I don't need 91838374 pages of debate, I don't think anyone does, but if it happens so be it. I think we should sleep on it. I'll make three threads with polls if needed tomorrow on each topic. Gather your thoughts, congregate tomorrow. For now, this site isn't adding admins, boards, or going anywhere, but it's not a permanent solution. But I hope everyone who wants to discuss this will do it here, in one place. We can't do three boards and expect to have a coherent conversation. Xoxo, Your reluctant admin |
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Post by NamasteBirches on May 21, 2017 18:17:27 GMT -6
it's saying guests have to login for me
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Post by Sundae on May 21, 2017 18:18:36 GMT -6
it's saying guests have to login for me . Damn it. How did the Scary people do it. Must have changed. Sorry for the misinformation. |
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Post by ajm on May 21, 2017 18:22:40 GMT -6
Sundae Can we c&p what Sterling said(w/permission) over there for the thread? Or should we have discussion all over there?
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Post by Sundae on May 21, 2017 18:23:47 GMT -6
Sundae Can we c&p what Sterling said(w/permission) over there for the thread? Or should we have discussion all over there? good idea. Hold on! |
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Post by Sundae on May 21, 2017 18:29:22 GMT -6
So. In this case it seems like we need to elect a leader. Then some admins. Then some mods.
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Post by petrichor on May 21, 2017 18:39:42 GMT -6
I feel like the people on both sides who are offended need to sort something out first. No sense doing all of this across two boards, possibly make a 3rd board (or is it 7th? I've lost count) and then still be divided.
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Post by Sundae on May 21, 2017 18:46:16 GMT -6
It's too difficult to have convos across two boards or more things get lost like a bad case of playing the game telephone. and not everyone has a log in to post on just one of the two places, unless we do it at tcf hahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahhahahahahaha and we've already lost some in the mass exodus, likely including he and her Instagram. Ok. Well I tried. There are people refusing to come here. People refusing to go there. A lot of us have deleted TCF already so that doesn't work either. |
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Post by petrichor on May 21, 2017 18:53:41 GMT -6
It's too difficult to have convos across two boards or more things get lost like a bad case of playing the game telephone. and not everyone has a log in to post on just one of the two places, unless we do it at tcf hahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahhahahahahaha and we've already lost some in the mass exodus, likely including he and her Instagram. Ok. Well I tried. There are people refusing to come here. People refusing to go there. A lot of us have deleted TCF already so that doesn't work either. And that's the thing. If people are refusing to go here or there to discuss, then would they even be willing to come together in a different place? McBenny had already said she's handing over the keys. I get that people are offended, but they were under one roof at TCF. Does it matter who built the place? Are Sterling and Admin willing to talk? |
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Post by kellykapow on May 21, 2017 18:54:50 GMT -6
I'm curious why people on this site won't go to the other site for the discussion. Is it because you don't want to sign up for another board?
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Post by thatgolfb on May 21, 2017 19:13:20 GMT -6
I'm curious why people on this site won't go to the other site for the discussion. Is it because you don't want to sign up for another board? Great question. I don't know why either. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 19:37:32 GMT -6
Who are the people here that refuse to go there? Bitch i sent you a message on the other place. |
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Post by Sundae on May 21, 2017 19:38:30 GMT -6
Who are the people here that refuse to go there? Refuse was a strong word. Haven't signed up over there and can't post. Or dont want to sign up for another board |
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Post by ajm on May 21, 2017 19:38:36 GMT -6
I'm curious why people on this site won't go to the other site for the discussion. Is it because you don't want to sign up for another board? I think so. I think a lot of people are exhausted after all that has happened and just don't want to sign up for something else ATM. I know it only takes two seconds, but from what I've read, that is partially the reason. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 19:54:57 GMT -6
I haven't been to the other place and it has nothing to do with any type of refusal.
I'm done registering accounts that are temporary.
I'll try to acclimate wherever and if I can't, that's on me.
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Post by nevertoomanyshoes on May 21, 2017 20:02:02 GMT -6
Forgive my lack of avatar, also my confusion. Are most people posting on both politicsorwhat and here until we work out what's what or are people saying they are only posting on one? Or both?
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Post by petrichor on May 21, 2017 20:09:03 GMT -6
Nobody has to go over, but if you want a voice in the collective discussion it would make it easier.
I know some people over there are refusing to come over here.
Someone offered to make a neutral site for discussions but that didn't fly.
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Post by petrichor on May 21, 2017 20:11:53 GMT -6
Forgive my lack of avatar, also my confusion. Are most people posting on both politicsorwhat and here until we work out what's what or are people saying they are only posting on one? Or both? I'm bouncing back and forth (out of FOMO amd also procrastination on stuff I really should be doing). Some people seem to be wanting to settle in over there (or elsewhere, I guess). They have several regular threads going, not just discussions about the future of the forum (s). |
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Post by ColorShock on May 21, 2017 20:32:21 GMT -6
Can we move threads if people don't want to leave them?
I just feel like this place is more set up for the long term.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 20:44:57 GMT -6
People not wanting to register is why I think being able to comment without creating an account is not a bad thing, at least temporarily. Let everyone talk.
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Post by thatgolfb on May 21, 2017 21:09:42 GMT -6
how bout a google form for voting and comments on the big questions? share on all sites I agree we need something but I am going to be candid here. It is ridiculous that we as grown ass adults won't just all go to one place to figure this shit out. |
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Post by briarrose on May 21, 2017 21:36:11 GMT -6
Forgive my lack of avatar, also my confusion. Are most people posting on both politicsorwhat and here until we work out what's what or are people saying they are only posting on one? Or both? Hey lady. This is off topic, but I have been thinking of you and hope you are doing well after this weekend. Shoot me a PM if you need to. I am central time and off to bed now, but I will be around tomorrow. |
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Post by mimsy on May 21, 2017 21:49:13 GMT -6
I can say with certainty there are some sub-boards who are simply waiting for the masses to decide.
There are others setting up shop on 3rd party boards.
Dust needs to settle. Parenting and BMB are the largest and (forgive if this is crass) loudest groups. Ultimately, their decisions will probably over-rule smaller sets.
Please be willing to share on TCF what the decision is for those who are waiting it out.
Not everyone has a death buddy or even knows what it is.
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Post by Admin on May 21, 2017 21:56:13 GMT -6
Ok. Well I tried. There are people refusing to come here. People refusing to go there. A lot of us have deleted TCF already so that doesn't work either. And that's the thing. If people are refusing to go here or there to discuss, then would they even be willing to come together in a different place? McBenny had already said she's handing over the keys. I get that people are offended, but they were under one roof at TCF. Does it matter who built the place? Are Sterling and Admin willing to talk? I actually never said I was. I said I was asked to step down. Hey thanks for your work can you step down and not be involved. It was posted over there that this was the case but this was not told to me or said by me. Also Sterling and I spoke Friday night. I thought everything was all good. She was made an Admin here. I was told people would move here etc. I never knew there was a problem or an issue until today. |
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Post by thatgolfb on May 21, 2017 21:57:31 GMT -6
I know I know but we have people that have registered at like 5 boards and several fb groups in the last week. They are tired of the "no you need to come over here" pied piper nonsense. and the idea that parenting regs would be the ones making the polls of choices so it's not gonna fly so well if it's not carefully carefuly worded. If they don't want to come to one place to vote out of spite, I'm not sure they should get a vote, honestly. I am sure I am being overly snarky right now, I am just tired of jumping around and tired of the whining. |
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Post by Admin on May 21, 2017 22:00:54 GMT -6
This is where I am currently - I will keep this forum open for whoever wants. I am still looking for the Admin team. The goal was for not one person in charge.
I am anti election because the smaller groups and boards feel Parenting or the larger groups would get majority votes.
I would love for people to be from all the different areas of the forum here. That's my vision.
I have never pushed anyone to do anything or go anywhere.
So it will be business as usual here. If anyone doesn't want to be here or wants to leave, no hard feelings.
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Post by petrichor on May 21, 2017 22:24:43 GMT -6
And that's the thing. If people are refusing to go here or there to discuss, then would they even be willing to come together in a different place? McBenny had already said she's handing over the keys. I get that people are offended, but they were under one roof at TCF. Does it matter who built the place? Are Sterling and Admin willing to talk? I actually never said I was. I said I was asked to step down. Hey thanks for your work can you step down and not be involved. It was posted over there that this was the case but this was not told to me or said by me. Also Sterling and I spoke Friday night. I thought everything was all good. She was made an Admin here. I was told people would move here etc. I never knew there was a problem or an issue until today. Sorry for mis-stating. I misunderstood and am glad you clarified. |
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Post by venyia on May 21, 2017 22:27:31 GMT -6
For the record, I like it here. I don't know any of the folks involved in the fighting and hurt feelings (and I am not trying to downplay any of it, don't get me wrong), so I kind of wish the cult of personality wasn't such a sticking point for folks. I mean, we all just want a new home. If the door is open and everyone inside is the same, does it matter who built the house? Barring email/ip issues, I guess.
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Post by Admin on May 21, 2017 22:47:12 GMT -6
I would like to explicitly state, I started on TB on May 2010. I have never been involved in any off board drama. I have had fellow posters confide in me about things via PM and I have never betrayed that trust in any way.
People can make an email just for message boards.
You can also google IP addresses and see what information you get from an IP address.
I don't think it does what people think it does.
That being said, I think it's dirty for people who already do not like someone to imply such things. Just come out and say I don't like that person. That's it.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 22:55:13 GMT -6
McBenny AmyG I like you and trust you both. Just for the record.
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