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Post by willow on Mar 14, 2025 13:57:33 GMT -6
I do think that there is a contingent of Rs/conservatives that wouldn't care given that Pete is masc appearing and speaking. My uncle is a conservative - hates Trump - and we were talking while I was visiting him last month about the election etc. We were discussing potential viable candidates for the Dems next cycle and when Pete came up, I mentioned that he could never win in this culture because of homophobia. My uncle seemed genuinely surprised by this and was like "Nah, no one cares that he's gay." I think there is a decent group of conservatives that wouldn't care but he doesn't realize that it is not the majority of voters by a long shot. I don't even think it's about the conservatives necessarily. I think there is a group of Dems/liberals who stayed home but would have come out for someone like Pete. (And I again stress this isn't me saying it should have been him, it's more of an indictment of those people) And then enough conservatives wouldn't know or care that it'd carry. You have more faith in people than me, I think. lol |
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Post by SweetPotato on Mar 14, 2025 14:11:19 GMT -6
Unfortunately there are also chunks of D voters who would have pause with voting for a gay man.
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Post by SweetPotato on Mar 14, 2025 14:11:46 GMT -6
Personally I love the shit out of Pete.
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Post by jaygee on Mar 14, 2025 14:19:31 GMT -6
Unfortunately there are also chunks of D voters who would have pause with voting for a gay man. This is the truth. |
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Post by bigbang on Mar 14, 2025 14:27:15 GMT -6
I mean, when I ran for local office my Republican legislator specifically set of a campaign to target me for being queer while the Dems did little to protect me. I am not ignorant to the existence of hate on both sides. But I think a cis white gay man with a liberal bent absolutely has at least a chance of winning.
I can't get behind the idea that it's harder for a cis white gay man to get elected than a Black man (and Obama won!). I'm okay on my island lol
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Post by mapleme on Mar 14, 2025 15:19:21 GMT -6
I think that there are plenty of progressive/dem people who voted for Harris or Hillary *because* they were women. I think that there are far fewer people who would vote for Peter *because* he is gay. That alone says to me that gay men are farther ahead than women in being respected by society. I adore Pete. I would have a hard time choosing between him and Walz if they were both running.
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Post by AmyG on Mar 14, 2025 15:36:59 GMT -6
I think that there are plenty of progressive/dem people who voted for Harris or Hillary *because* they were women. I think that there are far fewer people who would vote for Peter *because* he is gay. That alone says to me that gay men are farther ahead than women in being respected by society. I adore Pete. I would have a hard time choosing between him and Walz if they were both running. They should run together. Walz as President after stumping across the US in rallies. Then Peter can be VP and set up to run after Walz |
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Post by willow on Mar 14, 2025 15:43:44 GMT -6
I mean, when I ran for local office my Republican legislator specifically set of a campaign to target me for being queer while the Dems did little to protect me. I am not ignorant to the existence of hate on both sides. But I think a cis white gay man with a liberal bent absolutely has at least a chance of winning. I can't get behind the idea that it's harder for a cis white gay man to get elected than a Black man (and Obama won!). I'm okay on my island lol I think there is a difference between harder to elect and would they win though, you know? I agree Pete would have had a better turnout but I still don’t think he’d win, yet. ETA: I also think the current climate plays into it. It is so different than when Obama was elected. |
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Post by angelashly on Mar 14, 2025 16:35:10 GMT -6
I do think that there is a contingent of Rs/conservatives that wouldn't care given that Pete is masc appearing and speaking. My uncle is a conservative - hates Trump - and we were talking while I was visiting him last month about the election etc. We were discussing potential viable candidates for the Dems next cycle and when Pete came up, I mentioned that he could never win in this culture because of homophobia. My uncle seemed genuinely surprised by this and was like "Nah, no one cares that he's gay." I think there is a decent group of conservatives that wouldn't care but he doesn't realize that it is not the majority of voters by a long shot. I don't even think it's about the conservatives necessarily. I think there is a group of Dems/liberals who stayed home but would have come out for someone like Pete. (And I again stress this isn't me saying it should have been him, it's more of an indictment of those people) And then enough conservatives wouldn't know or care that it'd carry. I can see this. There are a lot of white people who will be an ally for the LBGTQ+ community that still get uncomfortable and don’t speak up when it comes to BIPOC communities. Not to say they are are racists but they have less bias |
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Post by angelashly on Mar 14, 2025 16:36:15 GMT -6
I don't even think it's about the conservatives necessarily. I think there is a group of Dems/liberals who stayed home but would have come out for someone like Pete. (And I again stress this isn't me saying it should have been him, it's more of an indictment of those people) And then enough conservatives wouldn't know or care that it'd carry. You have more faith in people than me, I think. lol I have no faith in anyone People who sat out did so because of issues that still won’t be fixed so yeah I have no faith |
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Post by angelashly on Mar 14, 2025 16:38:07 GMT -6
I think that there are plenty of progressive/dem people who voted for Harris or Hillary *because* they were women. I think that there are far fewer people who would vote for Peter *because* he is gay. That alone says to me that gay men are farther ahead than women in being respected by society. I adore Pete. I would have a hard time choosing between him and Walz if they were both running. I don’t think they are farther behind. But I do think they are close |
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Post by angelashly on Mar 14, 2025 16:39:13 GMT -6
Obama was elected because black men and women came out and voted. He wasn’t voted by just white men and women
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Post by trueblue on Mar 14, 2025 17:35:24 GMT -6
I think that there are plenty of progressive/dem people who voted for Harris or Hillary *because* they were women. I think that there are far fewer people who would vote for Peter *because* he is gay. That alone says to me that gay men are farther ahead than women in being respected by society. I adore Pete. I would have a hard time choosing between him and Walz if they were both running. They should run together. Walz as President after stumping across the US in rallies. Then Peter can be VP and set up to run after Walz Would happily vote this ticket for 8 years then Pete & VP for another 8. |
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Post by dc2london on Mar 14, 2025 18:10:44 GMT -6
So...more tariffs I guess. 🙄😒  The US being known for its champagne production |
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Post by snowyowl on Mar 14, 2025 18:11:45 GMT -6
So...more tariffs I guess. 🙄😒 The US being known for its champagne production It's not a presidency, it's a sparkling coup |
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Post by elle on Mar 14, 2025 18:26:41 GMT -6
So...more tariffs I guess. 🙄😒 The US being known for its champagne production There is that weird loophole that lets certain CA growers produce sparkling wine and use the name champagne, but I have no doubt at all that the orange Führer thinks all sparking wine is champagne. |
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Post by dc2london on Mar 14, 2025 18:28:39 GMT -6
 Oh my blood pressure. When my doctor said no work, I think he forgot to say no news 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 Like what the fuck. The actual fucking fuck. I had my annual pelvic today (please get your exams and paps and mammograms, my loves!!!) And my blood pressure was, uh......not good |
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Post by kbw on Mar 14, 2025 19:47:18 GMT -6
I knew Schumer was going to flip to vote for the spending bill but I’m disappointed in Gillibrand. So NY sold out today. I’ve seen a lot of anger in comments about it and that both deserve to be primaried.
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Post by gingy on Mar 14, 2025 20:06:49 GMT -6
I mean, when I ran for local office my Republican legislator specifically set of a campaign to target me for being queer while the Dems did little to protect me. I am not ignorant to the existence of hate on both sides. But I think a cis white gay man with a liberal bent absolutely has at least a chance of winning. I can't get behind the idea that it's harder for a cis white gay man to get elected than a Black man (and Obama won!). I'm okay on my island lol I think there is a difference between harder to elect and would they win though, you know? I agree Pete would have had a better turnout but I still don’t think he’d win, yet. ETA: I also think the current climate plays into it. It is so different than when Obama was elected. Your last part, for real. This is not 2008. It’s a whole other ballgame. |
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Post by kbw on Mar 14, 2025 20:19:27 GMT -6
I really like Pete but what we’ve seen people applauding/wanting changed with respect to LGTBQA+ rights I don’t see him winning. They won’t trust that he won’t roll back the changes being made.
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Post by jaygee on Mar 14, 2025 23:29:20 GMT -6
I think there is a difference between harder to elect and would they win though, you know? I agree Pete would have had a better turnout but I still don’t think he’d win, yet. ETA: I also think the current climate plays into it. It is so different than when Obama was elected. Your last part, for real. This is not 2008. It’s a whole other ballgame. It’s the backlash of 2008. They saw a Black man in power and said never again. If you would have told me then how it would feel now when I was feeling so elated I wouldn’t have believed it. I was a naive lady thinking we were making some real progress. |
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Post by cnf on Mar 15, 2025 4:14:52 GMT -6
Does it seem like Chuck S changed positions in just one day? Is it oddly coincidental that he also has a book coming out? I wish all Dem Senators would unite, fight, and just vote NO. Only takes 23 Senate Democrats to remove Chuck Schumer from leadership and replace him with someone willing to fight bsky.app/profile/brandonfriedman.bsky.social/post/3lkcnf57z6s2mBetween him and seeing something about Gavin N having Steve Bannon on his podcast, I am sorely disappointed in male Democrats. Do you think Newsom is trying to win over Rs early because he plans to run? He might be trying to look more middle or the spectrum versus the liberal he really is. |
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Post by cnf on Mar 15, 2025 4:16:02 GMT -6
At this point, I'd rather stay in space Think we can swap places with those astronauts that are still stuck on the ISS? |
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Post by cnf on Mar 15, 2025 4:22:25 GMT -6
Personally I love the shit out of Pete. Same. I would be ecstatic if he ran and won, but I have so little faith. Especially with what burning rubble of government and society will be left after the next four years. |
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Post by cnf on Mar 15, 2025 4:28:35 GMT -6
I knew Schumer was going to flip to vote for the spending bill but I’m disappointed in Gillibrand. So NY sold out today. I’ve seen a lot of anger in comments about it and that both deserve to be primaried. This definitely makes me sad and very frustrated. I've always stanned for the both of them. Less so Schumer in recent years, but I've always liked Gillibrand. And seeing the voting map from the election and how much of the state went red, more than usual, I just want to scream. |
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Post by athn64 on Mar 16, 2025 10:47:56 GMT -6
Saw this on FB. Have not verified. Has anyone heard anything about it.  |
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Post by Eagles on Mar 16, 2025 11:37:45 GMT -6
Saw this on FB. Have not verified. Has anyone heard anything about it. I saw this earlier and said out loud "thank God Jimmy Carter isn't alive to see this." |
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Post by shesgotit on Mar 16, 2025 12:07:28 GMT -6
Saw this on FB. Have not verified. Has anyone heard anything about it. Yes, it is something to do with credit cards. I saw something about it on bluesky a few days ago- making charges that would be considered defrauding of the gov because of climate grants. Absolutely bullshit. |
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Post by shesgotit on Mar 16, 2025 14:55:08 GMT -6
 Wow, way to go Newsom. |
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