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Post by Cheshie6 on Jun 6, 2024 9:08:28 GMT -6
I think she's much sicker than they're sharing. Shes very very sick and they don't know how to deal. She's 42 and I agree, they don't have a playbook for this. Also, they are probably trying to not make a martyr out of her. I don't think the BRF could have predicted how the public would react to Diana's death, and though not a car accident, this could be Diana 2.0. I hope she is really okay, and they are using this to try to reduce the number of public events, work days, etc.
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Post by Nymeria on Jun 6, 2024 10:50:32 GMT -6
Whatever she's dealing with, I hope she ends up ok for the kids' sakes, but I can get on board with the thought that whatever is going on is worse than they thought and they don't know what to do.
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Post by icedcoffee on Jun 6, 2024 11:26:55 GMT -6
I'm not mentally in a place where I want to judge how anyone handles a cancer dx or treatment. So I should step back. Trust me you know I get it. All I’m saying for me it’s both. I don’t judge her for wanting to handle things her way but I also can see they are bringing the uncertainty on themselves That's probably not *her* fault though. And that's where I feel for her (if that's true) that's she's dealing with all this wild speculation while going through something terrible because no one knows how to say anything that's accepted Eta sorry my page didn't refresh. I see it was a continuing convo |
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Post by icedcoffee on Jun 6, 2024 11:34:11 GMT -6
I think I fall somewhere in the middle. I do agree they've made it worse by doing all of this. But I don't agree if they were upfront that it wouldn't have caused doubt and speculation.
I think they were fucked no matter what they do so they just chose not to deal with it, which may have been the wrong decision, idk. But I can't get on board with saying everyone would have left things alone and didn't question if they had been more upfront. There would have just been different conspiracies happening
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Post by angelashly on Jun 6, 2024 11:41:24 GMT -6
Trust me you know I get it. All I’m saying for me it’s both. I don’t judge her for wanting to handle things her way but I also can see they are bringing the uncertainty on themselves That's probably not *her* fault though. And that's where I feel for her (if that's true) that's she's dealing with all this wild speculation while going through something terrible because no one knows how to say anything that's accepted Eta sorry my page didn't refresh. I see it was a continuing convo I feel sorry for her dealing with a disease and having young kids I can’t feel sorry for her that people question or speculate or talk online because she chose this. I didn’t want to bring Meghan into this because it’s not about her but it also is. It’s been said for years when she took all the hate she did and speculation etc that she knew what she was getting. She profited off of the family so it is what it is. The royal family said people talk we don’t answer. Kate did that as well. So they can’t now call no one is allowed to speculate or talk. I do believe there would have been less talk if they were up front at the beginning and just left it alone and didn’t drop all the fake things they did. Do I feel they are throwing Kate under the bus and it isn’t fair absolutely. Do I think she is exempt from being talked about as a public figure whose whole job is to be in the public no. |
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Post by AmyG on Jun 6, 2024 11:44:34 GMT -6
I would hate to be Kate in the middle of this conversation. She's going thru shit of the cancer kind and people want explanations and pictures and more info.
Sure the crown could have tried different take on this how to present the info of the "soon" to be queen "dying" of cancer.
But they also have the whole stock market and security issues they have to balance that we don't even know the half of that side of it.
Talking about it so much seems real icky and we've had this exact conversation several times now and the feels icky from a few posters doesn't outweigh the curiosity and anger and the crown from a few other posters.
Feels like speculation on Kate will end us up at same place over and over. Eh?
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Post by angelashly on Jun 6, 2024 11:47:16 GMT -6
I would hate to be Kate in the middle of this conversation. She's going thru shit of the cancer kine and people want explanations and pictures and more info. Sure the crown could have tried different take on this how to present the info of the "soon" to be queen dying of cancer. But they also have the whole stock market and security issues they have to balance that we don't even know the half of that side of it. Talking about it so much seems real icky and we've had this exact conversation several times now and the icky from a few posters doesn't outweigh the curiosity and anger and the crown from a few other posters. Feels like speculation on Kate will end us up at same place over and over. Eh? I don’t want to get into the amount of shit speculated on here and in real life on other members of this family. Kate is not exempt and like I said in the other thread as you’ve pointed out we’ve had these conversations it feels very much like we can’t speculate on perfect Kate which proves my point |
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Post by icedcoffee on Jun 6, 2024 11:49:13 GMT -6
That's probably not *her* fault though. And that's where I feel for her (if that's true) that's she's dealing with all this wild speculation while going through something terrible because no one knows how to say anything that's accepted Eta sorry my page didn't refresh. I see it was a continuing convo I feel sorry for her dealing with a disease and having young kids I can’t feel sorry for her that people question or speculate or talk online because she chose this. I didn’t want to bring Meghan into this because it’s not about her but it also is. It’s been said for years when she took all the hate she did and speculation etc that she knew what she was getting. She profited off of the family so it is what it is. The royal family said people talk we don’t answer. Kate did that as well. So they can’t now call no one is allowed to speculate or talk. I do believe there would have been less talk if they were up front at the beginning and just left it alone and didn’t drop all the fake things they did. Do I feel they are throwing Kate under the bus and it isn’t fair absolutely. Do I think she is exempt from being talked about as a public figure whose whole job is to be in the public no. The only thing I'm saying is that the way this was handled may not have been her fault |
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Post by icedcoffee on Jun 6, 2024 11:50:54 GMT -6
I actually agree she isn't exempt from speculation, which is why I think they were fucked no matter what they said
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Post by angelashly on Jun 6, 2024 11:52:30 GMT -6
I feel sorry for her dealing with a disease and having young kids I can’t feel sorry for her that people question or speculate or talk online because she chose this. I didn’t want to bring Meghan into this because it’s not about her but it also is. It’s been said for years when she took all the hate she did and speculation etc that she knew what she was getting. She profited off of the family so it is what it is. The royal family said people talk we don’t answer. Kate did that as well. So they can’t now call no one is allowed to speculate or talk. I do believe there would have been less talk if they were up front at the beginning and just left it alone and didn’t drop all the fake things they did. Do I feel they are throwing Kate under the bus and it isn’t fair absolutely. Do I think she is exempt from being talked about as a public figure whose whole job is to be in the public no. The only thing I'm saying is that the way this was handled may not have been her fault I’m not saying she has all the say and I don’t think anyone else is either which is why we keep saying the way they handled it, But it is to a point. She showed she was ok with the rules on how to deal when it suited her needs. It’s the worst she is the scapegoat I’m not denying that. |
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Post by angelashly on Jun 6, 2024 11:53:31 GMT -6
I actually agree she isn't exempt from speculation, which is why I think they were fucked no matter what they said I think there would have always been some speculation but there for sure would have been a lot less |
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Post by icedcoffee on Jun 6, 2024 11:53:32 GMT -6
They did try for the "Kate had medical issues please just give her some time" thing. They released that not seen after Easter thing. No one left that alone. I think no matter what over time the speculation and conspiracies would have started. Her having cancer or medical issues is way different than Charles. He's old and not well liked so I don't think we can compare how those 2 different issues were handled
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Post by icedcoffee on Jun 6, 2024 11:56:18 GMT -6
I actually agree she isn't exempt from speculation, which is why I think they were fucked no matter what they said I think there would have always been some speculation but there for sure would have been a lot less Maybe, maybe not. I guess that's where I'm saying I don't necessarily agree haha |
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Post by icedcoffee on Jun 6, 2024 11:58:01 GMT -6
To be clear I don't have a problem with any of the speculation going on in this thread, just adding my thoughts. I think it's complex and hard and everyone is going to feel their own way based on their own experiences with cancer or loved ones being sick
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Post by angelashly on Jun 6, 2024 11:59:44 GMT -6
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Post by icedcoffee on Jun 6, 2024 12:02:12 GMT -6
I can't read the whole thing, I assume he didn't say much besides she's getting better? |
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Post by angelashly on Jun 6, 2024 12:07:18 GMT -6
I can't read the whole thing, I assume he didn't say much besides she's getting better? Yep. He was asked about her and said she is doing better and would have loved to be there. Then a source told vanity fair that she is doing good and that will and her family are with her while she is recovering |
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Post by claudia on Jun 6, 2024 14:12:25 GMT -6
I feel sorry for her dealing with a disease and having young kids I can’t feel sorry for her that people question or speculate or talk online because she chose this. I didn’t want to bring Meghan into this because it’s not about her but it also is. It’s been said for years when she took all the hate she did and speculation etc that she knew what she was getting. She profited off of the family so it is what it is. The royal family said people talk we don’t answer. Kate did that as well. So they can’t now call no one is allowed to speculate or talk. I do believe there would have been less talk if they were up front at the beginning and just left it alone and didn’t drop all the fake things they did. Do I feel they are throwing Kate under the bus and it isn’t fair absolutely. Do I think she is exempt from being talked about as a public figure whose whole job is to be in the public no. The only thing I'm saying is that the way this was handled may not have been her fault I don't think she has much say in how it was handled and one of the most messed up parts of the whole thing is how the palace threw her under the bus over the Mother's Day photo. |
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Post by miawallace on Jun 6, 2024 15:18:56 GMT -6
I will continue to question everything these people put out with regards to Kate or anything else related to them. I don’t care. Everything since Kate was last seen has raised red flags to me. I don’t think they are exempt from being scrutinized. They are public figures it comes with the gig.
I hate that there’s needs to be a constant disclaimer that we hope she recovers and her kids are doing well. It doesn’t negate the obvious shit they are trying to cover up. Cancer is a bitch. But I’m also not going to walk around anything with them as if they haven’t been lying about a million things since Kate disappeared.
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Post by katespade on Jun 6, 2024 15:28:59 GMT -6
Most of what I think has already been mentioned by others but one thing I want to say is that I have noticed very little conspiracy theorizing about Charles. They were upfront that he is dealing with cancer and outside of a handful of tweets or Reddit comments speculating on whether he will die sooner vs later (which is gross), it pales in comparison to the Kate stuff and I think that’s simply because they handled it so funky from the start.
I do worry she is very ill and that makes me sad for her children.
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Post by beesquared on Jun 6, 2024 15:33:17 GMT -6
The BRF are reaping what they have sewn over decades of encouraging speculation and press to drive narrative. They fueled the money stream for online creators hating on Meghan and now they can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
It sucks that it is coming to a head for Kate during a health crisis, but she was a willing participant when it suited her needs. I would like to think there may be some self-reflection by the BRF, but I won't hold my breath.
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Post by claudia on Jun 6, 2024 16:43:52 GMT -6
The BRF are reaping what they have sewn over decades of encouraging speculation and press to drive narrative. They fueled the money stream for online creators hating on Meghan and now they can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. It sucks that it is coming to a head for Kate during a health crisis, but she was a willing participant when it suited her needs. I would like to think there may be some self-reflection by the BRF, but I won't hold my breath. Agreed and it also underscores how they have not responded to changing times at all. They still think they can control the narrative in a way they can’t with new media forms. |
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Post by donnamartingraduates on Jun 6, 2024 17:03:56 GMT -6
The King has cancer too, but not nearly the hubbub about conspiracies regarding his health. I do believe his was caught early and appears treatable/he's responding as well as one can to treatment. All that to say that if Kate's dx was shared early on the conspiracies would not have been as wild. I do think she is very ill. There have been a couple videos of people asking Will how she is doing and he looks like someone hit him each time and then a quick "Fine". I also think the waiting to tell the kids might have been due to the severity as well. If this was caught early and/or was easily treatable it'd still be hard to share that news, but you'd do it. I think the delay was because Will and Kate needed time to process it.
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Post by jaidit on Jun 7, 2024 4:41:35 GMT -6
It’s the fancy wedding of the Duke of Westminster today. This is the wedding that allegedly Harry wasn’t invited to (despite the duke being a godparent of Archie) Eugenie is there  |
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Post by jaidit on Jun 7, 2024 5:26:44 GMT -6
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Post by claudia on Jun 7, 2024 7:00:22 GMT -6
I don't like the dress. I do like the veil.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jun 7, 2024 7:10:31 GMT -6
I don't like the dress. I do like the veil. Same. The two trains thing going on is weird and not a fan of the scallops. The veil, as you said, is gorgeous and I love the tiara. It's the Fabergé Myrtle Wreath Tiara originally commissioned in 1907, for tiara fans like me. %20by%20Faberge%20for%20Lady%20Mabel%20Grosvenor%201.jpg)  |
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Post by angelashly on Jun 7, 2024 7:17:00 GMT -6
I think I like the open part of the back but I’m not sure. I don’t like the rest
Also the whole Harry wasn’t invited was debunked but they did say he was not attending
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Post by jaidit on Jun 7, 2024 7:17:41 GMT -6
I don't like the dress. I do like the veil. Apparently it is a great whatever grandmothers from 1890 and the dress was designed to go with it. |
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Post by notblanche on Jun 7, 2024 7:19:20 GMT -6
I like her nail color.
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