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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Jan 2, 2024 22:42:58 GMT -6
I thought we had a thread on this, but I can’t find it. There is now a second season of the HBO doc - this one has Natalia talking. Here is her story en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalia_GraceWhile I don’t think she is as old as they made her, I do not think she was 6 when they adopted her. |
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Jan 3, 2024 8:23:13 GMT -6
This whole thing is so bizarre. I didn't watch but can't they look at dental records or something in order to prove her correct age?
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Post by tgrimes on Jan 3, 2024 8:49:19 GMT -6
I thought they spoke to her birth mom, which confirmed her age. It's been awhile since I watched the first season though.
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Post by klong11 on Jan 3, 2024 8:55:18 GMT -6
Hotcoconuts82, they had a dentist who was a "family friend" say she was the age they wanted her to be.
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Post by klong11 on Jan 3, 2024 9:00:19 GMT -6
According to that wikipedia page they confirmed the birth mother and the date of birth with the hospital, so I don't know what the adoptive "parents" are thinking other than just trying to get rid of her, which is just sad.
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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Jan 3, 2024 10:05:48 GMT -6
According to that wikipedia page they confirmed the birth mother and the date of birth with the hospital, so I don't know what the adoptive "parents" are thinking other than just trying to get rid of her, which is just sad. The thing is, there is no way to know that was actually her. It could have been a sibling. |
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Post by bobyn on Jan 3, 2024 10:20:33 GMT -6
According to that wikipedia page they confirmed the birth mother and the date of birth with the hospital, so I don't know what the adoptive "parents" are thinking other than just trying to get rid of her, which is just sad. The thing is, there is no way to know that was actually her. It could have been a sibling. Actually the birth mother? Aren't DNA test results different between parents and more distant relatives? |
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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Jan 3, 2024 10:32:34 GMT -6
The thing is, there is no way to know that was actually her. It could have been a sibling. Actually the birth mother? Aren't DNA test results different between parents and more distant relatives? I mean the baby that was born being Natalia. The mom is her birth mother, but she may not be the baby with the birth certificate. |
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Post by motherofdachshunds on Jan 3, 2024 11:06:18 GMT -6
Dental records will give you a ballpark age but can be off by a couple years in either direction.
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Post by klong11 on Jan 3, 2024 11:07:38 GMT -6
Actually the birth mother? Aren't DNA test results different between parents and more distant relatives? I mean the baby that was born being Natalia. The mom is her birth mother, but she may not be the baby with the birth certificate. Well, if she were the age the adoptive parents are claiming then the birth mother would have been 10, while not impossible, isn't likely. |
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Post by bobyn on Jan 3, 2024 11:08:15 GMT -6
Actually the birth mother? Aren't DNA test results different between parents and more distant relatives? I mean the baby that was born being Natalia. The mom is her birth mother, but she may not be the baby with the birth certificate. Possibly. But the date chosen by the adoptive family would have made her birth mother 10 years old at the time of birth. There's a little wiggle room for sure, but I don't think she's nearly as old as they tried to claim. |
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Post by origami on Jan 3, 2024 11:12:54 GMT -6
I mean, the evidence is that she aged. They said she was an adult when she looked like a little girl with little girl face and little girl teeth. Now she is an adult and looks like an adult. With an adult face and body (albeit small due to dwarfism) and adult teeth.
Those two pieces of shit abandoned a child to fend for herself because she wasn't giving them their perfect social media family due to what I imagine is pretty horrific trauma.
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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Jan 3, 2024 11:30:52 GMT -6
I mean the baby that was born being Natalia. The mom is her birth mother, but she may not be the baby with the birth certificate. Well, if she were the age the adoptive parents are claiming then the birth mother would have been 10, while not impossible, isn't likely. I don't believe she is the age the adoptive parents said. I do think she was older than 6 though, even if it's just a few years. The adoptive parents are trash. |
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Post by bobyn on Jan 3, 2024 13:51:21 GMT -6
I just don't understand why people would doubt her age at all. Those people lied on her and now she has to defend her age and life, as if she was in control of her circumstances? It's all gross to me.
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Post by chrisy01 on Jan 4, 2024 12:35:43 GMT -6
Why would they say they have evidence from people and then when those experts are interviewed they show different answers.
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Post by spicysalmonroll on Jan 8, 2024 12:36:26 GMT -6
I saw a tiktok this morning saying a current dental record/test put her at 22, meaning she would have been 9 at adoption in 2010 (adoptive parents were told she was 7 at adoption).
I haven't watched the doc yet so this is literally all I have heard as of recent
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