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Post by STP on Jul 26, 2023 20:05:45 GMT -6
What I mean is that I think the TOU are clear that you can’t post what someone else said in a pm. I agree that clarity about whether you may post your own words would be nice. I think we should be able to post our own words. I think we’re agreeing. i did not hit my head, but I am really tired. Why would one be screenshotting their own words in a private message and sending it to someone else or posting it on the board? You can c&p that if you want to move it to the board and don't want to re-type it. The claim is I called it nasty - which I believe it was, and apparently everyone has to agree w how something made you feel or you’re a liar - and Phil had to post it to prove her innocence. It was a noble choice to pick being banned for her honor. I think if people want to post their own words, whatever. I also think exactly what happened here will be the result - the other person explains why they felt the way they did and beef heart will render that not good enough. But if people want to clarify TOU so this happens more frequent it, hey. Go for it. We’ll just bookmark for when shoes are on other feet.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 26, 2023 20:06:22 GMT -6
If "Do not post screen shots of private messages" isn't clear, I am a little concerned for some of y'all. It means none. Don't do it. Ever. For any reason. It's as clear as it can be. Stop dumping mud into it. You are trying to complicate it by adding qualifiers. None. At all. Hard stop. It is clear. Admin said if she had just posted her side, there would have been a discussion. So I am saying have that discussion now. Decide. Put it in TOU plainly. So I am not adding shit. FUCKING ADMIN SAID IT TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would expect you of all people to be more cognizant of being able to defend your name and your honor when lied on after a bitch lied on you and said you threatened her in a PM in the past. Just saying. Feel how you want to feel. Please to remove your personal disdain for me or whatever. I asked for a decision and then put it in TOU. I didn't ask for anyone's kidney or first born. Full stop. Thank God I have your permission to feel how I want to feel. I really needed clarity on that.
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Post by rvasc on Jul 26, 2023 20:07:38 GMT -6
I just looked, and I get an average of 3 pms per calendar year so this probably will never affect me anyway. Lol.
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Post by STP on Jul 26, 2023 20:08:13 GMT -6
I don't have a problem wanting clarity on it. I could also see that there is some difference between posting the contents of a PM sent to you vs. a PM you sent -- I agree that the latter is a lesser offense but I think I'm also fine with the general concept of keeping private messages private. Especially since philo is the one that chose to send a PM instead of posting to @stp publicly. It also does feel like philo kind of took something of a bait. It seemed to me that philo posted the pm in response to the taunt of if you do it again I'll post it when stp would never do that (likely since she knows it's against tou) what was in the pm was what was already posted on a regular board already, stp's post and philo's reply of thumbs up. pretty sure that was both posted on board and posted on pm. Seems like a silliness that if it was something already posted on the regular boards (not private boards) the content of the pm was already public so not really a big no no. She posted a PM reply that was not on the public board. It was not public. It was not in the boards. It was my PRIVATE MESSAGE REPLY to the screenshot. It wasn’t public. I don’t know how else to say it and how you’re still wrong is mind blowing at this point. I told her not to PM me a long time ago. Today was not a response to a taunt. It would be nice if you’d get some part of this correct at least.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 26, 2023 20:08:24 GMT -6
It is clear. Admin said if she had just posted her side, there would have been a discussion. So I am saying have that discussion now. Decide. Put it in TOU plainly. So I am not adding shit. FUCKING ADMIN SAID IT TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would expect you of all people to be more cognizant of being able to defend your name and your honor when lied on after a bitch lied on you and said you threatened her in a PM in the past. Just saying. Feel how you want to feel. Please to remove your personal disdain for me or whatever. I asked for a decision and then put it in TOU. I didn't ask for anyone's kidney or first born. Full stop. Thank God I have your permission to feel how I want to feel. I really needed clarity on that. You're welcome.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 26, 2023 20:09:53 GMT -6
She posted a bannable offense. We all touch and agree on that. The point was brought up by Admin, "had she posted just her side..." That is what I am speaking to. #jbaf
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Post by piratecat on Jul 26, 2023 20:10:08 GMT -6
I don't have a problem wanting clarity on it. I could also see that there is some difference between posting the contents of a PM sent to you vs. a PM you sent -- I agree that the latter is a lesser offense but I think I'm also fine with the general concept of keeping private messages private. Especially since philo is the one that chose to send a PM instead of posting to @stp publicly. It also does feel like philo kind of took something of a bait. It seemed to me that philo posted the pm in response to the taunt of if you do it again I'll post it when stp would never do that (likely since she knows it's against tou) what was in the pm was what was already posted on a regular board already, stp's post and philo's reply of thumbs up. pretty sure that was both posted on board and posted on pm. Seems like a silliness that if it was something already posted on the regular boards (not private boards) the content of the pm was already public so not really a big no no. I just don't think that that level of scrutinizing whether the content or intent of the PM posted is offensive or not makes sense. There will always be differing opinions. I also don't know that philo posted the thumbs up on the board publicly. And even if she did, she chose to then also PM @stp. She also then included @stp's portion of the PM, whether she meant to or not.
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Post by TheoV2 on Jul 26, 2023 20:11:17 GMT -6
I'm not up on my acronyms, what's that stand for? Just curious. I got "Jesus be a" maybe?
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Post by STP on Jul 26, 2023 20:11:37 GMT -6
It seemed to me that philo posted the pm in response to the taunt of if you do it again I'll post it when stp would never do that (likely since she knows it's against tou) what was in the pm was what was already posted on a regular board already, stp's post and philo's reply of thumbs up. pretty sure that was both posted on board and posted on pm. Seems like a silliness that if it was something already posted on the regular boards (not private boards) the content of the pm was already public so not really a big no no. I just don't think that that level of scrutinizing whether the content or intent of the PM posted is offensive or not makes sense. There will always be differing opinions. I also don't know that philo posted the thumbs up on the board publicly. And even if she did, she chose to then also PM @stp. She also then included @stp's portion of the PM, whether she meant to or not. She didn’t post the thumbs up on the board.
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Post by wasabi on Jul 26, 2023 20:12:04 GMT -6
I’ll be honest I find the banning a little bit silly. Like, I enjoy @stp a bajillion times more than philo, but I do feel the OP called for a defensive answer and that’s what was given. Unless we’re actually missing a nasty PM, which I’m not asking for, that will remain a mystery for me I’m sure. Lord knows I can’t work the block function in a meaningful way so I can’t get on to anyone for failing to utilize that. But, in a perfect world… that was the solution.
I won’t miss philo, to be clear. And I’m not trying to act above *all this* because my post history proves otherwise. But I had a beer, a real one, like the Shepherd-Bell kids will no doubt enjoy someday instead of some dumb NA BS, so there’s that.
At the end of the day I’m really just upset that I had to read about the Shepherd-Bell farts again.
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Post by STP on Jul 26, 2023 20:12:29 GMT -6
She posted a bannable offense. We all touch and agree on that. The point was brought up by Admin, "had she posted just her side..." That is what I am speaking to. #jbaf I think this is excellent clarification to get. Not permission. Just agree.
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Post by STP on Jul 26, 2023 20:12:59 GMT -6
I’ll be honest I find the banning a little bit silly. Like, I enjoy @stp a bajillion times more than philo, but I do feel the OP called for a defensive answer and that’s what was given. Unless we’re actually missing a nasty PM, which I’m not asking for, that will remain a mystery for me I’m sure. Lord knows I can’t work the block function in a meaningful way so I can’t get on to anyone for failing to utilize that. But, in a perfect world… that was the solution. I won’t miss philo, to be clear. And I’m not trying to act above *all this* because my post history proves otherwise. But I had a beer, a real one, like the Shepherd-Bell kids will no doubt enjoy someday instead of some dumb NA BS, so there’s that. At the end of the day I’m really just upset that I had to read about the Shepherd-Bell farts again. The smoothie will haunt me until I perish.
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Post by TheoV2 on Jul 26, 2023 20:17:04 GMT -6
At least we've stayed on track with the thread title since we're talking about clarity (and not smoothies because no).
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Post by piratecat on Jul 26, 2023 20:19:06 GMT -6
At least we've stayed on track with the thread title since we're talking about clarity (and not smoothies because no). The number of times people have said "to be clear" in this thread is a lot.
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Post by piratecat on Jul 26, 2023 20:20:56 GMT -6
Do we truly believe that this is something that will come up more than maybe once a year henceforth? I'm all for clarity so that we can argue about some other thing that needs clarity next year. Gotta keep it fresh.
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Post by kayc on Jul 26, 2023 20:21:13 GMT -6
Why would one be screenshotting their own words in a private message and sending it to someone else or posting it on the board? You can c&p that if you want to move it to the board and don't want to re-type it. I think we’re circling the drain. .proboards.com
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Post by wasabi on Jul 26, 2023 20:22:19 GMT -6
I feel badly about saying “to be clear” now assholes
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Post by STP on Jul 26, 2023 20:25:25 GMT -6
I'm all for clarity so that we can argue about some other thing that needs clarity next year. Gotta keep it fresh. We're over here arguing the minutia of TOU as if we're some high traffic board where this is a thing that matters and I just. Yes but eh, clarify if people want it. And I don’t care if people think I made this up (much, it’s a little shitty). I do ask that folks get the actual events correct though at this point. My gosh.
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Post by TheoV2 on Jul 26, 2023 20:25:43 GMT -6
I'm all for clarity so that we can argue about some other thing that needs clarity next year. Gotta keep it fresh. We're over here arguing the minutia of TOU as if we're some high traffic board where this is a thing that matters and I just. It's part of the cycle.
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Post by piratecat on Jul 26, 2023 20:27:21 GMT -6
I feel badly about saying “to be clear” now assholes You're part of the problem, to be clear.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 26, 2023 20:27:53 GMT -6
Do we truly believe that this is something that will come up more than maybe once a year henceforth? I don't know. Depends on who is telling a tale and on who I suppose. I like clarity. As a WOC in the USA, I rely on clearly spelled out policies and procedures over what is in practice any day. In all areas of my life, I have had to tap into this skill set of mine in several areas of my life.
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Post by piratecat on Jul 26, 2023 20:32:14 GMT -6
I'm all for clarity so that we can argue about some other thing that needs clarity next year. Gotta keep it fresh. We're over here arguing the minutia of TOU as if we're some high traffic board where this is a thing that matters and I just. At the same time, arguing about TOU once a year doesn't seem all that bad either. Plus, if some people want clarity I think they should be heard, especially in a small group as you said.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 26, 2023 20:35:41 GMT -6
We're over here arguing the minutia of TOU as if we're some high traffic board where this is a thing that matters and I just. Yes but eh, clarify if people want it. And I don’t care if people think I made this up (much, it’s a little shitty). I do ask that folks get the actual events correct though at this point. My gosh. I thought we covered earlier in this thread that is not what we do here.
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Post by AmyG on Jul 26, 2023 20:59:05 GMT -6
Posting PMs is against TOU, moron. I'm a really good person. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 STPIt seems she did post the thumbs up on the board.
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Post by AmyG on Jul 26, 2023 21:00:20 GMT -6
I just don't think that that level of scrutinizing whether the content or intent of the PM posted is offensive or not makes sense. There will always be differing opinions. I also don't know that philo posted the thumbs up on the board publicly. And even if she did, she chose to then also PM @stp. She also then included @stp's portion of the PM, whether she meant to or not. She didn’t post the thumbs up on the board. Page 1 there's thumbs up. So if the pm was only things also posted in public what's the fuss about posting the pm?
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Post by AmyG on Jul 26, 2023 21:02:02 GMT -6
It does of course all run together since this kerfuffle started on blinds, on general and in pm.
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Post by 🍍 🍊 Fineapple 🍍 🍊 on Jul 26, 2023 21:03:08 GMT -6
I am ok with that but I just want it to be clear. If you said I sent you something and I post my words of my PM and you don't dispute it then I don't see why I should be banned? If I send you a PM of a screenshot of YOUR words that you posted on the forum and follow it with a thumbs up and I post it here, I do not see that as an invasion of privacy. I don't have any strong feelings about philo either way. I just found it all very juvenile and then add to that the tagging of admins, omg. I don't have a problem wanting clarity on it. I could also see that there is some difference between posting the contents of a PM sent to you vs. a PM you sent -- I agree that the latter is a lesser offense but I think I'm also fine with the general concept of keeping private messages private. Especially since philo is the one that chose to send a PM instead of posting to @stp publicly. It also does feel like philo kind of took something of a bait. It was clearly a lie. Not a bait. She was lied on. And she defended her name. Let’s call it what it is. Y’all can like Scout and still tell her that what she did was throwing stones and hiding her hand. She went into damsel mode and y’all fell for the dramaz.
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Post by TheoV2 on Jul 26, 2023 21:03:39 GMT -6
She didn’t post the thumbs up on the board. Page 1 there's thumbs up. So if the pm was only things also posted in public what's the fuss about posting the pm? The PM on page one also included STP's response via PM to philo's PM. It was not all publicly posted.
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Post by 🍍 🍊 Fineapple 🍍 🍊 on Jul 26, 2023 21:04:31 GMT -6
We're maybe 20 people on a message board no one knows about. There are no mass bannings, no banning of anyone who wasn't an ass. I don't get why the admin should even have to deal with any of this. They signed up for the job.🤷🏿♀️ And whether or not they do It for free or get paid I’m Allowed to Scrutinize them or anything else. Until it becomes bannable on the board.
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Post by jaygee on Jul 26, 2023 21:07:21 GMT -6
It does of course all run together since this kerfuffle started on blinds, on general and in pm. It did not start on blinds. There was nothing on the blinds. She took what STP posted on the blinds added an older post and then all those thumbs up and PM’d them to STP, a person who asked not her not to PM her.
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