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Post by elle on Jul 7, 2023 14:57:13 GMT -6
Yeah...I'm also not seeing any punching by the security guard here that has been said. I think he made contact, but it wasn’t like an intentional punch or something. Probably not great bodyguarding technique though. And now I'm picturing that basketball player's security guard scooping him up in his arms and carrying him off. 😆
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Post by bazi on Jul 7, 2023 15:07:33 GMT -6
I think he made contact, but it wasn’t like an intentional punch or something. Probably not great bodyguarding technique though. And now I'm picturing that basketball player's security guard scooping him up in his arms and carrying him off. 😆 Only acceptable course of action
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Post by Cher on Jul 7, 2023 15:24:41 GMT -6
i think it's kinda bullshit and suspect for her, a huge celebrity that has ben HOUNDED by the press/paparazzi, to approach another (and very new) celebrity and try to fucking touch them (!!) then play victim when his security get physical with her. Her security would've done the same thing with anyone in a crowd trying to touch her. I don't know that she should be slapped across the face, but yeah, don't go fucking touching people unprovoked. … you don’t know that she should be slapped across the face? Shouldn’t it be a unity horse don’t slap people across the face?
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Post by Cher on Jul 7, 2023 15:29:49 GMT -6
June 27, 2023
This former Disney actor is headed for a settlement with AKA Sticks.
Shia LaBeouf/FKA Twigs
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Post by Cher on Jul 7, 2023 15:32:00 GMT -6
I’m kinda horrified. There’s no reason to be rough with anyone. Normal person, Britney Spears, anyone. I’m not canceling any basketball player. But if a security guard’s immediate course of action to someone approaching his client is physical, he’s bad at his job. That video seemed aggressive to me.
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Post by sassafras83 on Jul 7, 2023 15:40:35 GMT -6
I’m kinda horrified. There’s no reason to be rough with anyone. Normal person, Britney Spears, anyone. I’m not canceling any basketball player. But if a security guard’s immediate course of action to someone approaching his client is physical, he’s bad at his job. That video seemed aggressive to me. Yeah, I am here. I am not a security expert or anything, but watching behind the client’s back and stopping any attempted physical contact before it happens seems pretty protection 101 to me. If they didn’t notice until her hand was actually on the player, then they are great security…
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Post by angelashly on Jul 7, 2023 15:49:52 GMT -6
I’m kinda horrified. There’s no reason to be rough with anyone. Normal person, Britney Spears, anyone. I’m not canceling any basketball player. But if a security guard’s immediate course of action to someone approaching his client is physical, he’s bad at his job. That video seemed aggressive to me. He put his arm out and moved her hand from touching his client. He didn’t hit her or punch her or kick her he didn’t even look at her it seems. How is it aggressive?
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Post by bazi on Jul 7, 2023 15:49:56 GMT -6
I’m kinda horrified. There’s no reason to be rough with anyone. Normal person, Britney Spears, anyone. I’m not canceling any basketball player. But if a security guard’s immediate course of action to someone approaching his client is physical, he’s bad at his job. That video seemed aggressive to me. Yeah, I am here. I am not a security expert or anything, but watching behind the client’s back and stopping any attempted physical contact before it happens seems pretty protection 101 to me. If they didn’t notice until her hand was actually on the player, then they are great security… I would think so too, for exactly this reason. Save yourself the headache. Although I guess if you’re only one guy, tough to cover all sides of a huge dude. Again, go full Costner and just carry him around.
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Post by angelashly on Jul 7, 2023 15:50:40 GMT -6
Actually never mind I don’t have time to respond and I don’t want to seem like I’m arguing or centering or whatever else
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Post by Cher on Jul 7, 2023 15:57:56 GMT -6
I’m kinda horrified. There’s no reason to be rough with anyone. Normal person, Britney Spears, anyone. I’m not canceling any basketball player. But if a security guard’s immediate course of action to someone approaching his client is physical, he’s bad at his job. That video seemed aggressive to me. He put his arm out and moved her hand from touching his client. He didn’t hit her or punch her or kick her he didn’t even look at her it seems. How is it aggressive? You can literally hear the slap. She didn’t grab him, as claimed. It feels like there was a much easier way to position yourself between the client and the person approaching that wouldn’t result in someone getting slapped in the face. I was a bottle service girl and bartender for years. I worked with people who required security. I’ve never seen anyone get aggressive with people approaching. In situations where someone unwanted is approaching, the security positions themselves between the parties. This seems unwarranted and jv security.
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Post by Cher on Jul 7, 2023 15:59:20 GMT -6
June 27, 2023
This A list showrunner loves to tell the world how wonderful and amazing he is and how he single handedly has taken care of all the Native Americans in this country. He just refuses to cast them in any roles on his shows.
Taylor Sheridan/Violence Against Women Act
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Post by willow on Jul 7, 2023 16:15:06 GMT -6
He put his arm out and moved her hand from touching his client. He didn’t hit her or punch her or kick her he didn’t even look at her it seems. How is it aggressive? You can literally hear the slap. She didn’t grab him, as claimed. It feels like there was a much easier way to position yourself between the client and the person approaching that wouldn’t result in someone getting slapped in the face. I was a bottle service girl and bartender for years. I worked with people who required security. I’ve never seen anyone get aggressive with people approaching. In situations where someone unwanted is approaching, the security positions themselves between the parties. This seems unwarranted and jv security. This is kind of what I was wondering. It seems so extra to immediately go to physically shoving a persons hand back like that instead of just stepping in front between the two people like seems standard.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 7, 2023 16:35:00 GMT -6
I feel some of you are making a big deal out of cause it is Britney.
First of all, she is a celebrity and I feel she herself should know better than to run up behind someone with security.
Also, where was her security?
Anyway, the young athlete was clearly just walking away quickly. I don't feel he knew who it was nor was it on him to know. When you hire security, you hire them for a reason. Clearly.
She reached her hand out, her hand or whatever was squatted away. As it should have been cause the security guy was doing his job. Part of that is not letting people grab your client. No matter who it is. I do not feel he knew who it was but again, I do not feel it matters here.
You are running up on them from behind, that's what he saw in his peripheral and that's what he was responding to. Oh well.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 7, 2023 16:37:45 GMT -6
I find it laughable that now there is critiquing the right and wrong way for security to do security. Why would he stop his motion which was walking with his client to stand between two persons?
He and his client were walking, clearly. Someone reached out to grab and or touch him, he stopped that from happening.
It does not matter that she did not grab him from the snippet of video you saw. He doesn't have to wait to be touched and or grabbed.
This is weird.
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Post by Eagles on Jul 7, 2023 16:39:32 GMT -6
I’m so surprised that she knew who that was. I mean - I’ve been to Vegas and seen big men surrounded by security and definitely thought “athlete”. But knowing an NBA draft pick is kind of some deep sports knowledge I wouldn’t expect from her. Also, I’m surprised she would approach him given how she is treated in public. The whole story is very confusing to me. I agree I know him because of my h and I watching basketball and the draft and even I would have been second guessing because he isn’t Lebron or Steph or someone I’ve watched a lot. I would only definitively be able to identify Embiid, Harris, Maxey, and Harden in the wild tbh. Because I see them live so much. Like in the white party pics, I knew them immediately.
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Post by tgrimes on Jul 7, 2023 17:49:34 GMT -6
I think he made contact, but it wasn’t like an intentional punch or something. Probably not great bodyguarding technique though. And now I'm picturing that basketball player's security guard scooping him up in his arms and carrying him off. 😆 Obviously, this is exactly what happened.
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Post by donnamartingraduates on Jul 7, 2023 18:15:53 GMT -6
I think you don't go up and put your hands on someone, certainly not a stranger and not from behind. If I feel unexpected and unknown hands on me (who has no security) it would startle me and I might react defensively by throwing an elbow back if I was really taken by surprise. Much better to call out and if they don't respond then let it go and move on.
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Post by leatherpants on Jul 7, 2023 19:30:08 GMT -6
I’m kinda horrified. There’s no reason to be rough with anyone. Normal person, Britney Spears, anyone. I’m not canceling any basketball player. But if a security guard’s immediate course of action to someone approaching his client is physical, he’s bad at his job. That video seemed aggressive to me. I thought it was a bit aggressive too actually.
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Post by jaygee on Jul 7, 2023 20:26:15 GMT -6
I’ve watched the video 100 times. And I’m high. So clearly an expert.
Just kidding. I now have more questions than answers.
#1: where the fuck is her security? They should have stopped her or, at least, been right there when the other guard went for her.
#2: why is she speaking in that accent? That sounded like a not stable person
Things I think: She didn’t know who he was. She was probably going to ask him if he played basketball or something. Unless Sam told her right before. But even still - something is shady here. I have private thoughts.
He and his team had no idea who it was. She came in totally unannounced to them and they wouldn’t know her from anyone else.
His security guard wasn’t doing a great job. I mean, he got the job done but I think he went a little too hard and I think he should have been looking at the “threat”. It might be his first gig, honestly.
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Post by bazi on Jul 7, 2023 21:20:07 GMT -6
jaygee does Britney even have security anymore? Does she have “people”? It doesn’t seem like anyone is minding the store.
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Post by jaygee on Jul 7, 2023 21:30:44 GMT -6
jaygee does Britney even have security anymore? Does she have “people”? It doesn’t seem like anyone is minding the store. It is wild to me if she doesn’t have security. I mean - that is so unsafe. But it seems possible since if she did, I would assume Vegas would be some place you would definitely want to have it.
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Post by SweetPotato on Jul 7, 2023 21:45:15 GMT -6
The rivalry of sisters is universal! Not just sisters! I'm still salty about my brother copying my wedding, lol. H and I went to Saint Lucia to get married. My brother about 5 years later also, went there, but then went to the same resort and picked the same location we did. I don’t think I’d be mad about it after the fact, but my brother and I were engaged at the same time. I picked a place out that was special to me and then his fiancée tried to book the same place for a few months before mine and I had to say thanks but no thanks.
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Post by Cher on Jul 7, 2023 23:41:55 GMT -6
June 28, 2023
If you really think about the term full circle and what it means, it really is no surprise the A list host ended up with the show he just landed.
Ryan Seacrest/Merv Griffin/Wheel Of Fortune
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Post by Cher on Jul 7, 2023 23:57:40 GMT -6
Idk I find the defending of security’s right to be aggressive weird. Security is typically cops or wannabe cops. They don’t have any special privileges. If I saw a cop do this, I would be angry about it. I don’t blame the basketball player or think it has anything to do with Britney. It’s just the attitude of “if you tap someone on the shoulder, you deserve to get assaulted” is not what I’m used to from this place. And I’m kinda surprised by it.
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Post by adelbert on Jul 8, 2023 2:04:12 GMT -6
I think some of us are looking at it from a different angle and not that assault is OK. Personally when I see security I understand that to mean stand back, stay away, I mean that's personal protection's function. So to watch a White woman come up behind a Black man ignoring his right to feel safe and then expect that the security doesn't react to the threat as quickly as possible (what if she had a knife? She seemed unhinged) is too much for me. I rewatched the video and the security hand shot up to try to prevent her from touching him, just a split second thing, and for me that's not assault. I mean things could have been handled differently but people make mistakes every day and thankfully no one was hurt. But I might be looking at this through a different lens as a person of color.
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Post by Cher on Jul 8, 2023 5:26:25 GMT -6
I think some of us are looking at it from a different angle and not that assault is OK. Personally when I see security I understand that to mean stand back, stay away, I mean that's personal protection's function. So to watch a White woman come up behind a Black man ignoring his right to feel safe and then expect that the security doesn't react to the threat as quickly as possible (what if she had a knife? She seemed unhinged) is too much for me. I rewatched the video and the security hand shot up to try to prevent her from touching him, just a split second thing, and for me that's not assault. I mean things could have been handled differently but people make mistakes every day and thankfully no one was hurt. But I might be looking at this through a different lens as a person of color. Obviously I can’t relate to that lens, but I appreciate your perspective. Maybe that’s the disconnect. Every time I have watched it, I haven’t viewed the race or the celebrity, I zero in on security’s behavior. I’ve been cringing at some fake LEO feeling comfortable enough to go right to being aggressive with someone. It’s too far for me. But I most definitely understand that you might view it considering other factors that haven’t been on my radar.
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Post by angelashly on Jul 8, 2023 5:58:58 GMT -6
I think some of us are looking at it from a different angle and not that assault is OK. Personally when I see security I understand that to mean stand back, stay away, I mean that's personal protection's function. So to watch a White woman come up behind a Black man ignoring his right to feel safe and then expect that the security doesn't react to the threat as quickly as possible (what if she had a knife? She seemed unhinged) is too much for me. I rewatched the video and the security hand shot up to try to prevent her from touching him, just a split second thing, and for me that's not assault. I mean things could have been handled differently but people make mistakes every day and thankfully no one was hurt. But I might be looking at this through a different lens as a person of color. And the security officer is black too so yes race plays a big factor in this. Not to mention the fact that it’s Britney who we know is not well. And my problem also lies with Britney’s statement in which I don’t actually believe it was her but she called out not only the security guard but the player for not responding in the way she felt necessary. I guarantee had the security guard who works for the team he is playing for just stepped between the two of them she still would have been stopped in a way that people wouldn’t have liked because she was coming in fast behind him too.
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Post by adelbert on Jul 8, 2023 6:18:51 GMT -6
I think some of us are looking at it from a different angle and not that assault is OK. Personally when I see security I understand that to mean stand back, stay away, I mean that's personal protection's function. So to watch a White woman come up behind a Black man ignoring his right to feel safe and then expect that the security doesn't react to the threat as quickly as possible (what if she had a knife? She seemed unhinged) is too much for me. I rewatched the video and the security hand shot up to try to prevent her from touching him, just a split second thing, and for me that's not assault. I mean things could have been handled differently but people make mistakes every day and thankfully no one was hurt. But I might be looking at this through a different lens as a person of color. Obviously I can’t relate to that lens, but I appreciate your perspective. Maybe that’s the disconnect. Every time I have watched it, I haven’t viewed the race or the celebrity, I zero in on security’s behavior. I’ve been cringing at some fake LEO feeling comfortable enough to go right to being aggressive with someone. It’s too far for me. But I most definitely understand that you might view it considering other factors that haven’t been on my radar. I mean I'm absolutely not OK with violence. It's not something I normally see (which is a privilege in itself) so I'm always very shocked by it but in this specific instance it was other things that I focused in on. But I can understand where you are coming from as well in terms of security/bouncers, etc often abusing their position and being way too physical and aggressive. I'm just not sure that I see it here.
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Post by angelashly on Jul 8, 2023 6:25:14 GMT -6
Obviously I can’t relate to that lens, but I appreciate your perspective. Maybe that’s the disconnect. Every time I have watched it, I haven’t viewed the race or the celebrity, I zero in on security’s behavior. I’ve been cringing at some fake LEO feeling comfortable enough to go right to being aggressive with someone. It’s too far for me. But I most definitely understand that you might view it considering other factors that haven’t been on my radar. I mean I'm absolutely not OK with violence. It's not something I normally see (which is a privilege in itself) so I'm always very shocked by it but in this specific instance it was other things that I focused in on. But I can understand where you are coming from as well in terms of security/bouncers, etc often abusing their position and being way too physical and aggressive. I'm just not sure that I see it here. He literally put his arm up to block her touching him and the fact that she was coming up so fast and he put his arm up it pushed her hand back and she hit herself. He didn’t put his hands on her or slap her or punch her like she said he did and that’s where I keep coming to.
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Jul 8, 2023 6:30:53 GMT -6
I mean I'm absolutely not OK with violence. It's not something I normally see (which is a privilege in itself) so I'm always very shocked by it but in this specific instance it was other things that I focused in on. But I can understand where you are coming from as well in terms of security/bouncers, etc often abusing their position and being way too physical and aggressive. I'm just not sure that I see it here. He literally put his arm up to block her touching him and the fact that she was coming up so fast and he put his arm up it pushed her hand back and she hit herself. He didn’t put his hands on her or slap her or punch her like she said he did and that’s where I keep coming to. I only watched the video once but it didn't look like assault to me.
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