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Post by angelashly on Jan 16, 2023 9:00:26 GMT -6
And then blaming it on having kids, as if he doesn’t have Kate home and a staff with nannies at the ready at all times just like he was raised. 🙄 They had a newborn and K was recovering from HG. It’s a little different. I get this I do but he wouldn’t even come for dinner either. I’m not saying that he didn’t need to be at home but I guarantee this was just an I don’t want to not because he couldn’t be away from home for minimum an hour. He left and was available when it came to the public part of it |
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Post by Eagles on Jan 16, 2023 9:05:02 GMT -6
They had a newborn and K was recovering from HG. It’s a little different. I get this I do but he wouldn’t even come for dinner either. I’m not saying that he didn’t need to be at home but I guarantee this was just an I don’t want to not because he couldn’t be away from home for minimum an hour. He left and was available when it came to the public part of it I agree with you that there was a compromise available. Will could have said "let's do dinner and have a nightcap but then I need to get home because Kate's exhausted even with Nanny Maria there and tomorrow is a big day with the kids and everything." |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 16, 2023 9:18:02 GMT -6
I get this I do but he wouldn’t even come for dinner either. I’m not saying that he didn’t need to be at home but I guarantee this was just an I don’t want to not because he couldn’t be away from home for minimum an hour. He left and was available when it came to the public part of it I agree with you that there was a compromise available. Will could have said "let's do dinner and have a nightcap but then I need to get home because Kate's exhausted even with Nanny Maria there and tomorrow is a big day with the kids and everything." Yes! |
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Post by goldenbird on Jan 16, 2023 10:37:58 GMT -6
I get this I do but he wouldn’t even come for dinner either. I’m not saying that he didn’t need to be at home but I guarantee this was just an I don’t want to not because he couldn’t be away from home for minimum an hour. He left and was available when it came to the public part of it I agree with you that there was a compromise available. Will could have said "let's do dinner and have a nightcap but then I need to get home because Kate's exhausted even with Nanny Maria there and tomorrow is a big day with the kids and everything." I also get the feeling Will just didn't want to spend the time with him either. I think he was super pissed about Harry getting to keep his beard and wear the uniform he wanted to and not to mention annoyed that Harry had chosen to marry Meghan. |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 16, 2023 11:25:16 GMT -6
I agree with you that there was a compromise available. Will could have said "let's do dinner and have a nightcap but then I need to get home because Kate's exhausted even with Nanny Maria there and tomorrow is a big day with the kids and everything." I also get the feeling Will just didn't want to spend the time with him either. I think he was super pissed about Harry getting to keep his beard and wear the uniform he wanted to and not to mention annoyed that Harry had chosen to marry Meghan. Yes. Not to mention the North Pole excursion and things Will felt he should have been asked to do not Harry. Harry wanted to hang with Will and be brothers their whole life and Will did when it suited him. |
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Post by claudia on Jan 16, 2023 11:38:59 GMT -6
I’m still in part 2 but obviously keep hearing stuff from further ahead as well. I think the Queen was so toxic. Harry kind of has mentioned her control of the family but I don’t know if he truly understands how weird it is. Having to get permission for facial hair. Controlling what you wear. The other stories about things like at family dinner, when she is done, they all have to stop eating.
That’s just not normal behavior.
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Post by sweetpea on Jan 16, 2023 11:59:38 GMT -6
It looks like will and Kate did not attend, Anne went Anne is taking Charles’s place and Lady Gabriella Windsor is filling in for Will. Lady Gabriella is also a godchild of Constanine |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 16, 2023 12:41:28 GMT -6
I’m still in part 2 but obviously keep hearing stuff from further ahead as well. I think the Queen was so toxic. Harry kind of has mentioned her control of the family but I don’t know if he truly understands how weird it is. Having to get permission for facial hair. Controlling what you wear. The other stories about things like at family dinner, when she is done, they all have to stop eating. That’s just not normal behavior. I think he gives her a pass for the whole thing but Charles was raised by her and then raised him the same way so… |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 16, 2023 12:44:26 GMT -6
Also pretty sure Camilla leaked the Will and Rose story
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Post by Eagles on Jan 16, 2023 12:50:42 GMT -6
It looks like will and Kate did not attend, Anne went Anne is taking Charles’s place and Lady Gabriella Windsor is filling in for Will. Lady Gabriella is also a godchild of Constanine I refuse to believe that William had something more important to do. |
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Post by addymac on Jan 16, 2023 14:08:11 GMT -6
Also pretty sure Camilla leaked the Will and Rose story Oooooo. Why do you think that? I really don’t get how Harry gives QE2 so many passes. I was mostly bored by part 3 because I felt like so much of it we had just heard about in the documentary. I’m over Harry. someone said it best - if the BRF had accepted Meghan they never would have left even though the BRF continues to be racist POS. It’s like, would they even be so active and winning awards for the activism and speaking out against racism etc if his family had supported them enough that they didn’t leave? Probably not. They only left because they were treated like shit. Not bc they are opposed to the monarchy and colonialism and racism and everything the BRF stands for. Meh. |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 16, 2023 14:17:14 GMT -6
Also pretty sure Camilla leaked the Will and Rose story Oooooo. Why do you think that? I really don’t get how Harry gives QE2 so many passes. I was mostly bored by part 3 because I felt like so much of it we had just heard about in the documentary. I’m over Harry. someone said it best - if the BRF had accepted Meghan they never would have left even though the BRF continues to be racist POS. It’s like, would they even be so active and winning awards for the activism and speaking out against racism etc if his family had supported them enough that they didn’t leave? Probably not. They only left because they were treated like shit. Not bc they are opposed to the monarchy and colonialism and racism and everything the BRF stands for. Meh. I absolutely think that they were opposed to racism. It’s the basis of everything. Yes I do believe they would have stayed if the BRF had put something out to the RACIST press because it would have shown that while things had happened in the past that they are growing and that they don’t condone racism. The shit I saw in that book was so bad. To say meghan went from slavery to royalty?? The fact is they left a family who they thought would protect them. I’m not giving them a pass on leaving on their terms because you are right the family is racist and has been for decades clearly, but many people are still breaking bread with racist family members while out there being allies. |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 16, 2023 14:18:47 GMT -6
Also the reason I think it was her was because there was a part in the book where Will calls Harry while Meghan was pregnant yelling about C&C putting out stories and how sick of it he was etc. that if I remember right would have been when those stories were coming out or they found out who it was
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Post by Eagles on Jan 16, 2023 14:22:45 GMT -6
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Post by Eagles on Jan 16, 2023 14:24:05 GMT -6
Also the reason I think it was her was because there was a part in the book where Will calls Harry while Meghan was pregnant yelling about C&C putting out stories and how sick of it he was etc. that if I remember right would have been when those stories were coming out or they found out who it was Camilla being loud and proud about her friendships with Morgan, Clarkson, Tominey, etc. is just her telling on herself. |
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Post by tinyjoys on Jan 16, 2023 15:26:06 GMT -6
I’m on chapter 8 and my god, that poor broken boy. My mom heart aches for him. The 13 year old Harry, not the 37 year old Harry, to be clear.
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Post by tinyjoys on Jan 16, 2023 15:38:18 GMT -6
I will also say that his voice is lovely and perfectly relaxing. I generally have a hard time with audiobooks, but I am enjoying this.
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Post by mrsweasley on Jan 16, 2023 15:47:26 GMT -6
I’m still in part 2 but obviously keep hearing stuff from further ahead as well. I think the Queen was so toxic. Harry kind of has mentioned her control of the family but I don’t know if he truly understands how weird it is. Having to get permission for facial hair. Controlling what you wear. The other stories about things like at family dinner, when she is done, they all have to stop eating. That’s just not normal behavior. I think he gives her a pass for the whole thing but Charles was raised by her and then raised him the same way so… I've also struggled with this mindset too, but I think a lot of people give grandparents a pass when they wouldn't give their parents one. I think that's what Harry is doing |
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Post by STP on Jan 16, 2023 16:33:05 GMT -6
They had a newborn and K was recovering from HG. It’s a little different. I get this I do but he wouldn’t even come for dinner either. I’m not saying that he didn’t need to be at home but I guarantee this was just an I don’t want to not because he couldn’t be away from home for minimum an hour. He left and was available when it came to the public part of it I agree, I just think “they have a nanny so what’s his problem” isn’t great |
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Post by STP on Jan 16, 2023 16:45:31 GMT -6
She’s also a TERF, so best blocked. |
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Post by STP on Jan 16, 2023 16:45:46 GMT -6
There’s no way we’ll see Will right now.
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Post by pitchslap on Jan 16, 2023 16:55:59 GMT -6
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Post by 4speedy on Jan 16, 2023 17:36:39 GMT -6
From this article: “You have said in interviews that pre-dated your meeting Meghan that you were happy to be “the spare.” Was this untrue at the time or did your feelings change with hindsight and/or therapy?” I think it’s very possible to be fine being the spare heir to the monarchy but be upset when treated like the spare son within the family. It’s apples and oranges. |
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Post by Eagles on Jan 16, 2023 18:13:55 GMT -6
So Charles is just fine with her treating his kids like shit. |
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Post by tinyjoys on Jan 16, 2023 18:59:02 GMT -6
So Charles is just fine with her treating his kids like shit. I mean, he’s basically a wombat momma & throws them to the predators/press to save himself/make Camilla look better, sooooooooooooooo |
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Post by beepers on Jan 16, 2023 19:38:09 GMT -6
So Charles is just fine with her treating his kids like shit. I think he’s fine with ANYONE treating his kids like shit. As long as It doesn’t reflect poorly on him (publicly). Even better if it serves a purpose for himself or Cam. |
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Post by addymac on Jan 16, 2023 19:56:52 GMT -6
Oooooo. Why do you think that? I really don’t get how Harry gives QE2 so many passes. I was mostly bored by part 3 because I felt like so much of it we had just heard about in the documentary. I’m over Harry. someone said it best - if the BRF had accepted Meghan they never would have left even though the BRF continues to be racist POS. It’s like, would they even be so active and winning awards for the activism and speaking out against racism etc if his family had supported them enough that they didn’t leave? Probably not. They only left because they were treated like shit. Not bc they are opposed to the monarchy and colonialism and racism and everything the BRF stands for. Meh. I absolutely think that they were opposed to racism. It’s the basis of everything. Yes I do believe they would have stayed if the BRF had put something out to the RACIST press because it would have shown that while things had happened in the past that they are growing and that they don’t condone racism. The shit I saw in that book was so bad. To say meghan went from slavery to royalty?? The fact is they left a family who they thought would protect them. I’m not giving them a pass on leaving on their terms because you are right the family is racist and has been for decades clearly, but many people are still breaking bread with racist family members while out there being allies. I guess I meant more like yeah they’re opposed to the racism but I think they would have tolerated a lot more of those trashy stories if the palace had put out a supporting statement, but they would have still stayed. Like how H said they love that Hussey lady even after her clearly racist existence was shown. How can you still believe in an institution that made your wife want to kill herself and hung you out to dry? I wish he put tons of more stories in there, though. |
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