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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Sept 22, 2022 8:55:17 GMT -6
How much longer do they have to wear black? I'm bored! I think another week. Just be glad we aren’t fashion watching Queen Victoria. She wore black forever.  Yeah, this isn't at all depressing. |
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Post by claudia on Sept 22, 2022 8:58:59 GMT -6
Same… I figured with the one more week of mourning we wouldn’t be seeing anyone for the rest of this week I think they were thanking people who helped with the funeral. That’s what I read. They’re not doing any official engagements, but stuff like thanking people. |
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Post by sifl on Sept 22, 2022 9:37:45 GMT -6
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Post by Eagles on Sept 22, 2022 9:43:02 GMT -6
Of course. Most of hers seems to be purely decorative. Is this where I UO that the ornamental buttons down the back of all the wedding dresses available in 2013 enraged me. Mine were just along the zipper and my godmother hated the way it looked and paid for the seamstress to add the loops so they'd lay nicely 😂 She was the one who helped me get dressed so she had to loop them all. H was surprisingly good at getting them undone while I took 75 bobby pins out of my hair at the end of the night. |
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Post by Eagles on Sept 22, 2022 9:45:30 GMT -6
Buttons over a lace up corset back any day though. Those are a pain.
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Post by angelashly on Sept 22, 2022 10:04:44 GMT -6
Buttons over a lace up corset back any day though. Those are a pain. oh |
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Post by beatch on Sept 22, 2022 10:06:06 GMT -6
How does Kate walk in those heels on cobblestone? I would twist my ankle for sure. She walks on the balls of her feet. Her heels probably don't touch the ground. |
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Post by kmkd on Sept 22, 2022 10:09:31 GMT -6
Who here lives in nyc?? You know what you need to do. I was in the neighborhood last night but I saw exactly nobody. |
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Post by kmkd on Sept 22, 2022 10:11:56 GMT -6
At the risk of everyone getting mad at me I’m going to say I’m holding everyone who says we can have conversations without posting tweets. Not saying people here can’t have the conversations or don’t know what’s happening out there because I know everyone can I don’t think I understand what you mean. |
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Post by angelashly on Sept 22, 2022 10:20:09 GMT -6
At the risk of everyone getting mad at me I’m going to say I’m holding everyone who says we can have conversations without posting tweets. Not saying people here can’t have the conversations or don’t know what’s happening out there because I know everyone can I don’t think I understand what you mean. I am saying I expect conversations being brought up. I don't know how to explain it without coming off a way I don't want to come off because I am all fought out for the week. |
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Post by kmkd on Sept 22, 2022 10:32:06 GMT -6
I don’t think I understand what you mean. I am saying I expect conversations being brought up. I don't know how to explain it without coming off a way I don't want to come off because I am all fought out for the week. So those of us who thought posting the tweets was not necessary - you’re expecting us to bring up conversations about racism organically? I want to make sure I understand. Because I truly do not. I find that strange. There’s a difference between organically participating and engaging in conversations, and being “expected” to bring them since we disagreed about tweets. |
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Post by angelashly on Sept 22, 2022 10:36:27 GMT -6
I am saying I expect conversations being brought up. I don't know how to explain it without coming off a way I don't want to come off because I am all fought out for the week. So those of us who thought posting the tweets was not necessary - you’re expecting us to bring up conversations about racism organically? I want to make sure I understand. Because I truly do not. I find that strange. There’s a difference between organically participating and engaging in conversations, and being “expected” to bring them since we disagreed about tweets. I said I don't know how to explain it without it being a fight, but yes I would like for conversations to be brought up by people other than me and the select few and organically discussing doesn't happen here like everyone is saying. It was touched on last week and most were quiet. I feel how I feel. I am not saying anyone here is wrong by any means which is why I said I don't know how to explain it without people thinking I do think that and I don't at all. |
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Post by angelashly on Sept 22, 2022 10:37:48 GMT -6
and I say this in my real life and here. It is always easy to say I am open to having discussions but then they don't happen so I am fully aware that I could be projecting also and want to stay away from that.
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Post by angelashly on Sept 22, 2022 10:48:15 GMT -6
I guess my issue is still with the bot tweets driving a sort of conversation that is different than a discussion about why the bots exist and what they represent. The “of course she knows where the camera is! And look Kate knows where the camera is too!” thing from yesterday is a good example, imo. Then again, I’m not on Twitter and I don’t plan to ever be on Twitter, so it’s easy for me to say that I think cesspool-Twitter can be overvalued in some of these discussions. But then again, I think legacy media overvalues Twitter, so maybe I’m undervaluing Twitter and overvaluing “blue check” sources? Tweet tweet. No I absolutely get this and I am 100% fine with not bring tweets here I get everyone's thoughts on it and I am on board with it. I think for me it is the we can have these conversations here without it when we don't really that bothered me a little, but like I said i am sure i am projecting and it is a me thing |
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Post by angelashly on Sept 22, 2022 10:50:19 GMT -6
Tl;dr, my issue is the tweets themselves. I’m happy to discuss whatever, whenever, forever. The ones I didn't bring over because woof actually did talk about her and race and still weigh heavy on me just because of what my dd has had people say |
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Post by Eagles on Sept 22, 2022 11:13:31 GMT -6
Buttons over a lace up corset back any day though. Those are a pain. oh I mean from a "putting the person into/getting them out of the dress" perspective. I have done both, personally and professionally. All I need for button loops is a rug or crochet hook. What page are we up to? |
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Post by claudia on Sept 22, 2022 11:16:29 GMT -6
Not to speak for angelashly, but I think for those who weren’t here as much when the threads started, there were sooo many conversations that were like “Meghan had been treated horribly.” “Well, Kate was treated worse.” Or my favorite “other than the racist stuff, Kate had it far worse than Meghan.” So a lot of the tweets are examples that no, Meghan is still being called these things. Not to mention how they created an undercurrent that now even people who would never seek out those tweets believe because it just became part of the conversation. |
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Post by claudia on Sept 22, 2022 11:17:00 GMT -6
I mean from a "putting the person into/getting them out of the dress" perspective. I have done both, personally and professionally. All I need for button loops is a rug or crochet hook. What page are we up to? 155. We are really slipping. |
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Post by Eagles on Sept 22, 2022 11:17:02 GMT -6
I guess my issue is still with the bot tweets driving a sort of conversation that is different than a discussion about why the bots exist and what they represent. The “of course she knows where the camera is! And look Kate knows where the camera is too!” thing from yesterday is a good example, imo. Then again, I’m not on Twitter and I don’t plan to ever be on Twitter, so it’s easy for me to say that I think cesspool-Twitter can be overvalued in some of these discussions. But then again, I think legacy media overvalues Twitter, so maybe I’m undervaluing Twitter and overvaluing “blue check” sources? Tweet tweet. No I absolutely get this and I am 100% fine with not bring tweets here I get everyone's thoughts on it and I am on board with it. I think for me it is the we can have these conversations here without it when we don't really that bothered me a little, but like I said i am sure i am projecting and it is a me thing I agree with Swell that you're not projecting. This is your family's actual lived experience and how you choose to bring up or carry out the conversation around it has more weight, imo, than my perspective as a WW without lived racism. I don't like giving these people attention, but that's easy for me to say because I have privilege. Does that make sense? |
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Post by tinyjoys on Sept 22, 2022 11:21:03 GMT -6
This made me laugh out loud. Is there a period of black only clothing? And can’t they get a break from engagements to decompress after that whirlwind week of funeral events? I don’t even care about their feelings but they must be so effing tired and sad bc she was their grannie Q. I thought for sure we wouldn't see them this week Do you think they're all secretly like "really, gran? You couldn't have passed in August when we're all on vacation?"? |
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Post by teraiin on Sept 22, 2022 11:22:00 GMT -6
Anne is out about thanking people today as well. I saw it on IG but lost the post
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Post by angelashly on Sept 22, 2022 11:23:14 GMT -6
No I absolutely get this and I am 100% fine with not bring tweets here I get everyone's thoughts on it and I am on board with it. I think for me it is the we can have these conversations here without it when we don't really that bothered me a little, but like I said i am sure i am projecting and it is a me thing I agree with Swell that you're not projecting. This is your family's actual lived experience and how you choose to bring up or carry out the conversation around it has more weight, imo, than my perspective as a WW without lived racism. I don't like giving these people attention, but that's easy for me to say because I have privilege. Does that make sense? Yes, and I understand that the tweets really aren't great and I am fully on board with not bringing them here |
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Post by angelashly on Sept 22, 2022 11:24:08 GMT -6
Not to speak for angelashly , but I think for those who weren’t here as much when the threads started, there were sooo many conversations that were like “Meghan had been treated horribly.” “Well, Kate was treated worse.” Or my favorite “other than the racist stuff, Kate had it far worse than Meghan.” So a lot of the tweets are examples that no, Meghan is still being called these things. Not to mention how they created an undercurrent that now even people who would never seek out those tweets believe because it just became part of the conversation. Yes. I can remember things so clearly so I felt dismissed yesterday even though I don't think anyone meant for that |
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Post by sifl on Sept 22, 2022 11:48:30 GMT -6
Not to speak for angelashly , but I think for those who weren’t here as much when the threads started, there were sooo many conversations that were like “Meghan had been treated horribly.” “Well, Kate was treated worse.” Or my favorite “other than the racist stuff, Kate had it far worse than Meghan.” So a lot of the tweets are examples that no, Meghan is still being called these things. Not to mention how they created an undercurrent that now even people who would never seek out those tweets believe because it just became part of the conversation. Yes. I can remember things so clearly so I felt dismissed yesterday even though I don't think anyone meant for that I remember that too so I understand you feeling dismissed. And to me it’s not just a “you” thing, it’s a context thing. The conversation will not go there if we all ignore the nasty stuff. |
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Post by lucilleaustero on Sept 22, 2022 11:53:59 GMT -6
Not to speak for angelashly , but I think for those who weren’t here as much when the threads started, there were sooo many conversations that were like “Meghan had been treated horribly.” “Well, Kate was treated worse.” Or my favorite “other than the racist stuff, Kate had it far worse than Meghan.” So a lot of the tweets are examples that no, Meghan is still being called these things. Not to mention how they created an undercurrent that now even people who would never seek out those tweets believe because it just became part of the conversation. What a weird take. Not your comment, but the idea that Kate was treated worse. Kate was not treated well by the british media but that mostly changed when she married into the RF. Meghan was skewered and roasted from the beginning and it has gotten more brazen and cruel as time has gone on. I don't really see how anyone could say that Kate has been treater harsher. MEGHAN AND HARRY HAD TO LEAVE THE FUCKING COUNTRY OVER THE RACISM AND BULLSHIT. |
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Post by RajahMD on Sept 22, 2022 11:55:28 GMT -6
Not to speak for angelashly , but I think for those who weren’t here as much when the threads started, there were sooo many conversations that were like “Meghan had been treated horribly.” “Well, Kate was treated worse.” Or my favorite “other than the racist stuff, Kate had it far worse than Meghan.” So a lot of the tweets are examples that no, Meghan is still being called these things. Not to mention how they created an undercurrent that now even people who would never seek out those tweets believe because it just became part of the conversation. Yes. I can remember things so clearly so I felt dismissed yesterday even though I don't think anyone meant for that I remember this too. I definitely think we (as a group in the history of this thread) can easily ostrich the nastier stuff. If you (general you) don't see the horrible tweets, it can be easy to forget them, or misremember the severity of them. So yeah, I can see it being a problem in the future that the more serious conversations don't happen without being instigated by tweets shared here. |
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Post by Cheshie6 on Sept 22, 2022 12:03:42 GMT -6
I am saying I expect conversations being brought up. I don't know how to explain it without coming off a way I don't want to come off because I am all fought out for the week. So those of us who thought posting the tweets was not necessary - you’re expecting us to bring up conversations about racism organically? I want to make sure I understand. Because I truly do not. I find that strange. There’s a difference between organically participating and engaging in conversations, and being “expected” to bring them since we disagreed about tweets. I read it as if something comes up that is a touchy topic, that we would be willing to engage in conversations rather than quickly shutting them down. Therefore, someone doesn't need to prove to the group that this is actually something we should discuss by giving examples from twitter. Great examples of this are Meghan's hair, if she is being treated differently than other married-in royal women. I distinctively remember this when Meghan first got on the scene and comments about her hair not laying right. It would have had to be proven that she wasn't just sloppy before people started to concede that her 3b-3c hair is in fact very different from Kate's maybe 2A s'wavy hair. |
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Post by angelashly on Sept 22, 2022 12:06:24 GMT -6
Not to speak for angelashly , but I think for those who weren’t here as much when the threads started, there were sooo many conversations that were like “Meghan had been treated horribly.” “Well, Kate was treated worse.” Or my favorite “other than the racist stuff, Kate had it far worse than Meghan.” So a lot of the tweets are examples that no, Meghan is still being called these things. Not to mention how they created an undercurrent that now even people who would never seek out those tweets believe because it just became part of the conversation. What a weird take. Not your comment, but the idea that Kate was treated worse. Kate was not treated well by the british media but that mostly changed when she married into the RF. Meghan was skewered and roasted from the beginning and it has gotten more brazen and cruel as time has gone on. I don't really see how anyone could say that Kate has been treater harsher. MEGHAN AND HARRY HAD TO LEAVE THE FUCKING COUNTRY OVER THE RACISM AND BULLSHIT. Oh it was said |
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Post by angelashly on Sept 22, 2022 12:07:15 GMT -6
So those of us who thought posting the tweets was not necessary - you’re expecting us to bring up conversations about racism organically? I want to make sure I understand. Because I truly do not. I find that strange. There’s a difference between organically participating and engaging in conversations, and being “expected” to bring them since we disagreed about tweets. I read it as if something comes up that is a touchy topic, that we would be willing to engage in conversations rather than quickly shutting them down. Therefore, someone doesn't need to prove to the group that this is actually something we should discuss by giving examples from twitter. Great examples of this are Meghan's hair, if she is being treated differently than other married-in royal women. I distinctively remember this when Meghan first got on the scene and comments about her hair not laying right. It would have had to be proven that she wasn't just sloppy before people started to concede that her 3b-3c hair is in fact very different from Kate's maybe 2A s'wavy hair. I shudder remembering the hair discussions |
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Sept 22, 2022 12:08:26 GMT -6
Not to speak for angelashly , but I think for those who weren’t here as much when the threads started, there were sooo many conversations that were like “Meghan had been treated horribly.” “Well, Kate was treated worse.” Or my favorite “other than the racist stuff, Kate had it far worse than Meghan.” So a lot of the tweets are examples that no, Meghan is still being called these things. Not to mention how they created an undercurrent that now even people who would never seek out those tweets believe because it just became part of the conversation. Meghan really did say it best when she said, "Rude isn't racist." |
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