richard
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Post by richard on Sept 27, 2022 7:47:31 GMT -6
I haven’t read the source material but know this is setting up for the ‘dance of the dragons’. I wish they weren’t rushing through the plot because I think it could be a really great series if they took their time. The actors are doing an amazing job, and the costumes are great. I agree with this. Either explain the background plot well and give it the time it deserves or just don't do it and focus on the dance and do flashbacks. It feels like a weird in-between right now where I want to know more about characters/motivations beyond a conversation here or there and am not getting it.
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Post by bustedbiscuits on Sept 27, 2022 7:55:42 GMT -6
Requesting the baby after birth was beyond cruel.
I feel for Laena knowing she wasn't Daemon's primary choice. Watching Laena with her daughter was very heartwarming and nice break. It was so sad seeing Laena and her dragon. Her dragon didn't want to burn her.
Criston is such an ass. I don't know why I thought he died at the end of last episode. Pitting the children against each other is hard to watch. It is weird yet fitting how Criston and Alicent teamed up. It now adds up why Alicent is so cruel with Larys (Harlow's brother) in her ear this whole time. What exactly has he been planning all these years and whispering in her ear? At the end, it looks like Alicent is realizing she got played by Larys?
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Post by joy on Sept 27, 2022 8:41:09 GMT -6
Sigh. I wanna like this show and I do but the slow burn of GoT is what I liked the most. You built and paid off storylines.
My biggest let down was with Laena. She was a bad ass and knew it. She deserved the build to her dragon burning her, not this rushed version.
Harwin did far less than what Criston did at the wedding (he KILLED a dude) and Harwin was the one to be removed from court while Criston rose in station to protect Alicent. Makes no sense. Criston is also immature as fuck.
Also, Alicent sits on the council? When did Viserys start allowing that?
Viserys needs to pass on now. This is all building to what happens after his death so let’s get on with it.
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Post by babybean on Sept 27, 2022 9:28:52 GMT -6
Sigh. I wanna like this show and I do but the slow burn of GoT is what I liked the most. You built and paid off storylines. My biggest let down was with Laena. She was a bad ass and knew it. She deserved the build to her dragon burning her, not this rushed version. Harwin did far less than what Criston did at the wedding (he KILLED a dude) and Harwin was the one to be removed from court while Criston rose in station to protect Alicent. Makes no sense. Criston is also immature as fuck. Also, Alicent sits on the council? When did Viserys start allowing that? Viserys needs to pass on now. This is all building to what happens after his death so let’s get on with it. Vhagar is the oldest and biggest dragon and was missing for a while. No story on how she was found or Laena’s relationship with her? What a waste.
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Post by tinyjoys on Sept 27, 2022 9:37:19 GMT -6
I haven’t read the source material but know this is setting up for the ‘dance of the dragons’. I wish they weren’t rushing through the plot because I think it could be a really great series if they took their time. The actors are doing an amazing job, and the costumes are great. I agree with this. Either explain the background plot well and give it the time it deserves or just don't do it and focus on the dance and do flashbacks. It feels like a weird in-between right now where I want to know more about characters/motivations beyond a conversation here or there and am not getting it. My sister listened to the books and said this is how *this* book is. It's like a time frame of story, time jump to more timeline of story, rinse & repeat for 800 pages.
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Post by KMW08 on Sept 27, 2022 20:16:03 GMT -6
I’m quite annoyed by the OBVIOUS paternity of Rhaenyra’s children. We all know genetics are jacked up, but it really bothers me that Viserys and Alicent’s children have the white hair, when in reality they should have just as much chance of dark hair too. And it can’t be due to Targaryen’s having stronger genetics or something, otherwise Rhaenyra’s kids would also have the white hair. Or the male’s children only a stronger genetic chance because: Jon Snow.
I too thought the marriage agreement was to produce heirs.
**shruggy guy**
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Post by junch817 on Sept 29, 2022 13:23:14 GMT -6
Can we talk about Larys holding those people as prisoners and then cutting off their tongues? No one has mentioned that, and it definitely took me by surprise!
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Post by junch817 on Oct 2, 2022 18:33:59 GMT -6
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joy
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Post by joy on Oct 2, 2022 20:24:28 GMT -6
Laenor! ❤️❤️
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Post by iruntodrink on Oct 2, 2022 21:58:42 GMT -6
That was a great episode!
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Post by claudia on Oct 2, 2022 22:07:25 GMT -6
I’m still catching my breath…
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Post by babybean on Oct 3, 2022 5:41:51 GMT -6
Why did Nyra have to call Daemon uncle after they hooked up? 😩😂
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Post by babybean on Oct 3, 2022 5:43:05 GMT -6
I hate that Baela didn’t get Vhagar. Aemond is a little shit.
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Post by babybean on Oct 3, 2022 6:11:24 GMT -6
This was the most exciting episode, but aspects feel so rushed still.
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Post by mc13 on Oct 3, 2022 8:11:46 GMT -6
Why did Nyra have to call Daemon uncle after they hooked up? 😩😂 I said the same thing to MH as soon as she said that.
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Post by bustedbiscuits on Oct 3, 2022 10:12:16 GMT -6
I wanted one of the girls to get their mom's dragon. Aemon is a turd for taking it but it's so sad seeing the children brought into the fighting of adults. I absolutely hate seeing them brought into it.
Alicent was let off so easy after she disobeyed the king, and flexed that she has power. Then Criston coming for the kids makes me hope he gets gutted. Also, why the heck is Alicent's dad back as the hand? I get Harlow/Harlow hand dad died but why bring him back? Now we have double trouble.
I feel so sad for Corlys and Rhaenyrs feeling like they lost both children but I'm glad Laenor gets to be happy away from living a marriage of lies.
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Post by joy on Oct 3, 2022 11:12:40 GMT -6
I really liked this episode. I especially liked that while scheming, both Daemon and Rhaenyra showed kindness to Laenor. Daemon of episodes 1- 5 would have just gutted him to be done with it. Rhaenyra would not have had the power to stop him, either.
I mean, this may come back to bite them in ass, of course. But today I’m going to be happy that a shorn Laenor ran out of the castle and on to a boat.
I wonder what will happen with his dragon. Will dragons know if their riders have not actually died? Will his dragon bond to another and then be confused if Laenor returns? Who will bond to Laenor’s dragon as both Rhaennyra and Daemon have a dragon?
Aemond got himself a dragon, yes. He got himself a very old dragon, though. How much longer does Vhagar have given he’s been around since Aegon the Conquerer?
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Post by babybean on Oct 3, 2022 11:40:12 GMT -6
I’m interested to see where else they will deviate from the books. Laenor is supposed to be dead. I’m glad he isn’t.
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Post by babybean on Oct 3, 2022 11:50:04 GMT -6
Vhagar is old but she’s still powerful and a dragon you’d want on your side.
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Post by babybean on Oct 3, 2022 11:53:12 GMT -6
It’s odd that Alicent goes from nervous about being outed for fuelling bastard claims to being bold enough to try and undermine the King publicly.
I would be distraught if my child lost an eye, and kids give murky interpretations of real facts, so I see that viewpoint. Calling for an eye in return is unhinged though. I wish they would actually let the kids speak and explain. Aemond had zero remorse and was going to bash faces in. Fuck him.
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Post by joy on Oct 3, 2022 11:59:33 GMT -6
Aemond should be bashing in Aegon’s face if he’s going to bash in any face…
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Post by tinyjoys on Oct 3, 2022 14:02:28 GMT -6
I really dislike both Aemond and Aegon. They're like more entitled, but dumber versions of Joffery.
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Post by richard on Oct 3, 2022 17:00:37 GMT -6
The second the body was in the fireplace I knew Laenor was free!
I also liked them physically lining up against each other at the end. This was my favorite episode so far although I agree it was still rushed.
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Post by richard on Oct 3, 2022 17:02:03 GMT -6
I really dislike both Aemond and Aegon. They're like more entitled, but dumber versions of Joffery. I don’t think Aemond is dumb at all. I think he’s going to be Rhaenyra and Daemon’s biggest problem.
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Post by leatherpants on Oct 3, 2022 22:18:48 GMT -6
Again, I must ask. What the fuck is Alicent’s problem.
She is like a low rent Cersei and I’m not loving it.
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Post by leatherpants on Oct 3, 2022 22:25:42 GMT -6
I also truly cannot get over how enormous Vhagar is. The dragons really are the shit.
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Post by becausewhy on Oct 4, 2022 9:02:24 GMT -6
I was so happy Laenor was spared. I was pissed when I thought they were going to murder him but then I saw him escape and then it made sense when Daemon said to have a witness.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Oct 4, 2022 14:31:14 GMT -6
The second the body was in the fireplace I knew Laenor was free! I also liked them physically lining up against each other at the end. This was my favorite episode so far although I agree it was still rushed. I squealed out loud at the Laenor is alive reveal. The literally taking sides visual after the Alicent and Rhae confrontation was a very powerful moment. It was this episode that sold MH on this show, although I was on board for a lot longer. I also agree things were rushed (I wanted to see Laenor and Rhae's earlier years, Laena and Daemon's earlier years, Rhae and Hot Harwin etc.) but I'm still loving the show. This was the strongest episode thus far. On a less positive note, while I love Emma's acting, she and Matt have zero chemistry while he and Milly had tons. Aemond is an asshole and I'm sad for Rhaena that she wasn't allowed to have a moment to properly mourn for her mother when that sniveling little shit bonded with Vhagar. I guess there's no accounting for taste with dragons, although I feel like Drogon would never. I can't stand any of Alicent's creepy offspring.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Oct 4, 2022 14:34:33 GMT -6
Again, I must ask. What the fuck is Alicent’s problem. She is like a low rent Cersei and I’m not loving it. I think she's pissy because she's married to an old man who is literally rotting away, a man she was somewhat forced into seducing by her own father and meanwhile, her former BFF is getting to fuck hot age-appropriate men (Criston, Harwin), having kids with second said hottie, and it's hand-waved. But any shred of sympathy I had for her shriveled up when she wanted to take Jace's eye as revenge for Aemond, who fucked around and found out. Also, for all her faults, Cersei actually appeared to love her children where Alicent just sees them as a means to end and doesn't even appear to like them unless she can leverage them against her enemies in some way.
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Post by beatch on Oct 4, 2022 17:33:28 GMT -6
It’s odd that Alicent goes from nervous about being outed for fuelling bastard claims to being bold enough to try and undermine the King publicly. I would be distraught if my child lost an eye, and kids give murky interpretations of real facts, so I see that viewpoint. Calling for an eye in return is unhinged though. I wish they would actually let the kids speak and explain. Aemond had zero remorse and was going to bash faces in. Fuck him. During this part I was practically yelling, "THIS LITTLE SHIT STOLE A DRAGON! HE STARTED IT!" SO much happened! Very curious to see Viserys' reaction to finding out Daemon and Rhaenyra got married! Viserys does crack me up because all he wants is everyone to get along, good vibes, and he's constantly dealing with everyone's shit. LOL.
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