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Post by hawkward on Apr 12, 2022 8:34:24 GMT -6
Why...how...40 year old maps are guiding your war efforts?! Are you serious?! It has to be intentional somehow, right? Like, what the hell? How? Thatβs what I keep thinking. Itβs so Keystone Cops that someone has to be sabotaging themselves on purpose.
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Post by cnf on Apr 12, 2022 8:40:21 GMT -6
It has to be intentional somehow, right? Like, what the hell? How? Thatβs what I keep thinking. Itβs so Keystone Cops that someone has to be sabotaging themselves on purpose. They lied to all those conscript soliders about what Chernobyl even is when they sent them there. I could see them giving them the pre meltdown maps to keep them naive and therefore compliant.
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Post by valiente on Apr 12, 2022 8:59:01 GMT -6
The Chernobyl danger part is boggling my mind.
But the map thing is also kind of interesting. Iβm guessing that the infrastructure may not have changed much since the map was made. Also, it would have been a Russian map describing Russian territory and that serves their narrative.
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Post by dc2london on Apr 12, 2022 9:08:28 GMT -6
Holy shit to 40yr old maps. "Take a left at the Berlin wall"
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Post by mintyblueair on Apr 12, 2022 9:53:19 GMT -6
Thatβs what I keep thinking. Itβs so Keystone Cops that someone has to be sabotaging themselves on purpose. They lied to all those conscript soliders about what Chernobyl even is when they sent them there. I could see them giving them the pre meltdown maps to keep them naive and therefore compliant. This is definitely it, imo.
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Post by elle on Apr 12, 2022 19:22:07 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Apr 13, 2022 9:12:11 GMT -6
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Apr 13, 2022 14:29:15 GMT -6
I would really like to know who they didn't sanction, but I feel like I can probably guess.
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Apr 13, 2022 15:04:20 GMT -6
Russian ship hit by Ukraine and burning in the Black Sea.
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Post by elle on Apr 13, 2022 16:32:47 GMT -6
Did we discuss this?
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Post by hawkward on Apr 13, 2022 16:54:20 GMT -6
My Trumper BIL (itβs a long story and weβre working toward getting him completely out of our lives) has been talking about how Putin isnβt such a bad guy and why is no one talking about what Ukraine βdid to deserve thisβ and how if 45 were still president none of this loss of life would have had to happen.
I canβt believe that spin. Just when I thought I couldnβt hate BIL moreβ¦
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Post by elle on Apr 13, 2022 17:32:28 GMT -6
My Trumper BIL (itβs a long story and weβre working toward getting him completely out of our lives) has been talking about how Putin isnβt such a bad guy and why is no one talking about what Ukraine βdid to deserve thisβ and how if 45 were still president none of this loss of life would have had to happen. I canβt believe that spin. Just when I thought I couldnβt hate BIL moreβ¦ I'm sorry. My H's sister is married to a Trumper and conspiracy theorist and likely believes similarly to her husband though she won't say specifically so we've cut then out. It wasn't super hard in that they live far away and we rarely saw them anyway but it's still no fun when the five year old has questions about her aunt.
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Post by elle on Apr 13, 2022 19:28:23 GMT -6
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Post by Ls2012 on Apr 13, 2022 19:56:28 GMT -6
Extremely sensitive content, but very powerful protest. .
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Post by elle on Apr 13, 2022 21:28:13 GMT -6
Russian ship hit by Ukraine and burning in the Black Sea.
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Post by elle on Apr 14, 2022 1:16:34 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Apr 14, 2022 5:56:39 GMT -6
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Post by hawkward on Apr 14, 2022 9:24:12 GMT -6
I donβt know a whole lot about Luria, but what I do know I like.
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Post by hawkward on Apr 14, 2022 9:29:05 GMT -6
We just saw more plane loads of supplies headed to Ukraine π
(Already public knowledge.)
The people who are involved that we know are feeling like *this* is why they joined the military- helping those in need, peacekeeping and protecting when possible.
There is nothing like the hope we feel when we watch planes with supplies and not bombs.
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Post by elle on Apr 14, 2022 12:54:29 GMT -6
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Post by cnf on Apr 15, 2022 11:26:28 GMT -6
How likely do we think Putin's desperation will push him over this edge? Everything is saying May 9th is when he wants to declare they've won, otherwise I saw somewhere that he has said he'd go in a raze everything to the ground on May 10th. Is he that fucking deranged? I'm very nervous about May 9th, it's coming up a lot, everywhere. CNN: Exclusive: Zelensky says world should be prepared for possibility Putin could use nuclear weapons. www.cnn.com/2022/04/15/politics/tapper-zelensky-interview-cnntv/index.html
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Post by elle on Apr 15, 2022 12:48:22 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Apr 15, 2022 12:50:25 GMT -6
How likely do we think Putin's desperation will push him over this edge? Everything is saying May 9th is when he wants to declare they've won, otherwise I saw somewhere that he has said he'd go in a raze everything to the ground on May 10th. Is he that fucking deranged? I'm very nervous about May 9th, it's coming up a lot, everywhere. CNN: Exclusive: Zelensky says world should be prepared for possibility Putin could use nuclear weapons. www.cnn.com/2022/04/15/politics/tapper-zelensky-interview-cnntv/index.htmlI'm nervous too. There's a lot of chattering about how humiliating it would be for Putin, if Russia, once seen as this great military power, lost this war to Ukraine. Some speculation that they want to drag NATO in so they could lose to (what they consider) a "peer" militarily.
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Post by elle on Apr 15, 2022 12:56:49 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Apr 17, 2022 14:05:01 GMT -6
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Post by mintyblueair on Apr 18, 2022 9:14:32 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Apr 18, 2022 11:32:15 GMT -6
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