Minerva
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Feb 27, 2022 18:37:30 GMT -6
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Post by Minerva on Feb 27, 2022 18:37:30 GMT -6
Reporters are suggesting that the EU will be including fighter jets for Ukrainian pilots to fly among the arms they provide.
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Ls2012
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Feb 27, 2022 19:04:58 GMT -6
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 27, 2022 19:04:58 GMT -6
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mathlete
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Post by mathlete on Feb 27, 2022 19:12:28 GMT -6
He just does it all.
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mathlete
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Post by mathlete on Feb 27, 2022 19:23:00 GMT -6
One more light hearted tweet that made me laugh.
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richard
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Feb 27, 2022 19:26:01 GMT -6
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Post by richard on Feb 27, 2022 19:26:01 GMT -6
This is a really interesting (but long) thread about the history of Russia’s military - and Ukraine’s - and the choices that have been made along the way.
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Feb 27, 2022 19:43:26 GMT -6
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Post by gymngemini on Feb 27, 2022 19:43:26 GMT -6
I think someone was asking about books about the history of USSR/Russia/Ukraine, etc and I just came across this thread on Twitter. I don't now much about the source, but it seems like a good starting point. I apologize that I don't remember who specifically asked.
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jkjacq
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Feb 27, 2022 19:58:46 GMT -6
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 27, 2022 19:58:46 GMT -6
Do you think the EU banded together so quickly because they saw what shitshow we had for four years and even tho Biden and MVP have done a lot to bring us back, all those world leaders were like uh yeah we really can’t trust that in two years it won’t be you?
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Feb 27, 2022 19:59:42 GMT -6
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Post by cribs on Feb 27, 2022 19:59:42 GMT -6
I think someone was asking about books about the history of USSR/Russia/Ukraine, etc and I just came across this thread on Twitter. I don't now much about the source, but it seems like a good starting point. I apologize that I don't remember who specifically asked. Garret Graf is good. I haven't read this but he has good recs
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sterling
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Feb 27, 2022 20:22:30 GMT -6
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Post by sterling on Feb 27, 2022 20:22:30 GMT -6
All I do is doom scroll Twitter and this thread now. This was a good one.
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origami
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Post by origami on Feb 27, 2022 21:00:23 GMT -6
We got in to DC last night and after our bus tour today had some time to kill before dinner so decided to walk around. We found ourselves in Lafayette Square at a Ukrainian peace march where we thought we'd see freedom convoy. It was great. Slava Ukraini!
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starbuck
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Feb 27, 2022 21:23:28 GMT -6
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Post by starbuck on Feb 27, 2022 21:23:28 GMT -6
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Feb 27, 2022 21:31:10 GMT -6
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Post by enchanted on Feb 27, 2022 21:31:10 GMT -6
Does Belarus joining the fight change anything for NATO or do those countries have to continue to send stuff and money but not manpower?
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Post by athn64 on Feb 27, 2022 21:34:19 GMT -6
Does Belarus joining the fight change anything for NATO or do those countries have to continue to send stuff and money but not manpower? They've already been in the fight. Even if only by letting Russia through their borders. I don't see anything changing right now.
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Feb 27, 2022 21:35:19 GMT -6
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Post by enchanted on Feb 27, 2022 21:35:19 GMT -6
Does Belarus joining the fight change anything for NATO or do those countries have to continue to send stuff and money but not manpower? They've already been in the fight. Even if only by letting Russia through their borders. I don't see anything changing right now. That's a good point.
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elle
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Feb 27, 2022 22:46:44 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Feb 27, 2022 22:46:44 GMT -6
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Post by blurnette989 on Feb 28, 2022 1:48:03 GMT -6
Do you think the EU banded together so quickly because they saw what shitshow we had for four years and even tho Biden and MVP have done a lot to bring us back, all those world leaders were like uh yeah we really can’t trust that in two years it won’t be you? No. Not everything is about the US. It's more like Europe knows exactly what a protracted land war looks like when you underestimate the enemy?
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Post by crimsonandclover on Feb 28, 2022 5:56:53 GMT -6
DD2 (9) asked this morning whether we would be taking in any Ukrainian children who had to flee without their parents or whose parents are killed in the war. She thinks we should and said they can sleep in the extra bed in her room I also looked it up today - we're approximately as far from Ukraine as NYC is from Chicago.
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Post by blurnette989 on Feb 28, 2022 7:35:31 GMT -6
We dropped off some donations of water and blankets and such to our town rec center and a woman i didn't know who ended up telling me she was a Ukrainian immigrant kept thanking us for our donations. She wasn't the coordinator she just was dropping off things too. it was really emotional.
I was happy to see at least many donations had come in even from our small town.
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richard
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Post by richard on Feb 28, 2022 7:47:28 GMT -6
Woof.
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richard
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Post by richard on Feb 28, 2022 7:50:13 GMT -6
Swiss banks too
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Minerva
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Post by Minerva on Feb 28, 2022 7:50:29 GMT -6
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Post by babybean on Feb 28, 2022 7:55:47 GMT -6
My sister and I wanted to send money to my Ukrainian friend from Etsy. She didn’t want to take it for nothing so said to order from her shop and she’ll make the products when she was able (😭). I placed a bigger order and told her all I wanted was updates to know they’re okay. Her family has been sheltering from air attacks but was able to go West where it’s safer. The money we sent helped with that. I donate as often as I can, and can’t really afford to give much when I do, but hearing about the direct impact your contribution made hits different.
I feel a bit icky mentioning it, but her sweetness during crisis was so moving and I’m happy they’re safe right now.
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Post by fatpony on Feb 28, 2022 8:09:53 GMT -6
My sister and I wanted to send money to my Ukrainian friend from Etsy. She didn’t want to take it for nothing so said to order from her shop and she’ll make the products when she was able (😭). I placed a bigger order and told her all I wanted was updates to know they’re okay. Her family has been sheltering from air attacks but was able to go West where it’s safer. The money we sent helped with that. I donate as often as I can, and can’t really afford to give much when I do, but hearing about the direct impact your contribution made hits different. I feel a bit icky mentioning it, but her sweetness during crisis was so moving and I’m happy they’re safe right now. It's not icky at all and its a lovely story to share. Humanity and caring about people in time of war and crisis is something we all need to see/hear/experience.
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richard
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Post by richard on Feb 28, 2022 8:23:51 GMT -6
It sounds like there was indiscriminate bombing of civilian area in Kharkiv last night. Fucking terrifying.
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Post by teraiin on Feb 28, 2022 8:24:24 GMT -6
My sister and I wanted to send money to my Ukrainian friend from Etsy. She didn’t want to take it for nothing so said to order from her shop and she’ll make the products when she was able (😭). I placed a bigger order and told her all I wanted was updates to know they’re okay. Her family has been sheltering from air attacks but was able to go West where it’s safer. The money we sent helped with that. I donate as often as I can, and can’t really afford to give much when I do, but hearing about the direct impact your contribution made hits different. I feel a bit icky mentioning it, but her sweetness during crisis was so moving and I’m happy they’re safe right now. I have a friend who posted links on her FB to Ukrainian Etsy shops that have digital things (like patterns or prints) so that you can “purchase” and receive they receive the money with no need on their part to make or ship anything to you since it comes as a download.
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Post by trueblue on Feb 28, 2022 8:27:54 GMT -6
My sister and I wanted to send money to my Ukrainian friend from Etsy. She didn’t want to take it for nothing so said to order from her shop and she’ll make the products when she was able (😭). I placed a bigger order and told her all I wanted was updates to know they’re okay. Her family has been sheltering from air attacks but was able to go West where it’s safer. The money we sent helped with that. I donate as often as I can, and can’t really afford to give much when I do, but hearing about the direct impact your contribution made hits different. I feel a bit icky mentioning it, but her sweetness during crisis was so moving and I’m happy they’re safe right now. I have a friend who posted links on her FB to Ukrainian Etsy shops that have digital things (like patterns or prints) so that you can “purchase” and receive they receive the money with no need on their part to make or ship anything to you since it comes as a download. If it’s not too much trouble could you cut and paste here?
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Ls2012
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 28, 2022 8:31:17 GMT -6
Negotiations are rumored to be over. Now we wait to see if anything positive comes from it.
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 28, 2022 8:32:35 GMT -6
Not the first time I've seen this joke, but it deserves a share.
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Post by imapenguin on Feb 28, 2022 8:33:54 GMT -6
babybean, your Etsy story gave me the idea to look for some digital downloads from Ukrainian shops and I found a bunch of really cool stuff that I can buy now! Just search digital downloads and add Ukraine under the filters.
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Post by clucky on Feb 28, 2022 8:40:31 GMT -6
From that first video richard posted, they just covered it on CNN. Lt General Mark Hertling was just on speaking about that top video and what he thought they were using. He believes they were using a smirch(?) rocket. He said they are cluster munitions. A rocket with bomblets geared towards mass civilian casualties. Sometimes all the rounds don’t always explode and become like land mines. He also stated that the Russians aren’t even attempting to fight the Ukrainian soldiers and are on a terror campaign and not abiding by what most countries follow in land warfare.
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