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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 12:53:05 GMT -6
I’m done. Fucking H just called me and multiple people he works with just tested positive. They were showing symptoms at work and freaking got rapid negatives and were allowed to continue to work. And h won’t get tested unless he’s symptomatic and I feel horrible for our kids because we didn’t let them tot last year and now this. I just want to scream and cry.
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Post by gingy on Oct 27, 2021 13:01:58 GMT -6
Honestly I'm impressed we're even close to 70%. The county is only at 56%. We have enough students from larger cities that probably help us. Plus faculty alone are at nearly 80%. I just checked--we're at 95%, despite the county only being at 58% and the state at 51%. My mind is blown by a week off as incentive. I'm not sure how well thought-out it was, but the President randomly announced it during freshman convocation. No one else I've talked to was aware of it because for a few days after there were whispers of "was he actually serious?" Apparently he was.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 13:02:03 GMT -6
Like if I’m being 100% honest Covid has shown how different H and I are the cracks in our marriage. I highly doubt if it were for me he’d be vaccinated. And that’s just because he doesn’t ever go to a doctor/ take a flu shot type stuff. And once he was vaccinated snd the mask mandate was lifted his mask was off. And now I have all of this to deal with. But I’m the one that has to break the kids hearts all the time and deal with all of the quarantines while working.
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Post by leahcar on Oct 27, 2021 13:09:44 GMT -6
kbw, I'm sorry. MH and I are definitely starting to see things differently as far as the pandemic. We were in lockstep at the beginning and it has started to veer as this drags out. It's hard to hit a middle ground while trying to work, educate our kids, and everything else. Things are that much more difficult when there are other issues at play. If it makes you feel any better, my vaccinated oldest DD has sat beside kids TWICE in band that tested positive later that day. And it's band so no masks. She didn't catch it either time. We did an outside movie and a pinata last year. It wasn't TOT- but not a regular day either. Hopefully you can find something fun.
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Post by McBenny on Oct 27, 2021 14:09:06 GMT -6
It’s a little poetic that Moderna turned out to be the long run winner of all the vaccines. This isn't actually a factual statement. The dose for Moderna is a larger dose and always has been - they don't know if that's a factor. Logic would say yes but it hasn't been fully studied or peer reviewed. So with that people would get a larger antibody surge. There was also more time in between when you got your 2nd dose which could also play a factor in holding antibodies longer. - this hasn't been studied or peer reviewed. Logic would tell us that this is also a factor. Also they don't know why some people get more, less, or none natural immunity. They don't know why some people hold onto antibodies longer vs. shorter. They also still don't know that the magic antibody number is for covid protection. It's also important for people with a history of heart disease in their family to have an option that hasn't shown heart issues.
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Post by Tlex on Oct 27, 2021 14:39:51 GMT -6
It’s a little poetic that Moderna turned out to be the long run winner of all the vaccines. This isn't actually a factual statement. The dose for Moderna is a larger dose and always has been - they don't know if that's a factor. Logic would say yes but it hasn't been fully studied or peer reviewed. So with that people would get a larger antibody surge. There was also more time in between when you got your 2nd dose which could also play a factor in holding antibodies longer. - this hasn't been studied or peer reviewed. Logic would tell us that this is also a factor. Also they don't know why some people get more, less, or none natural immunity. They don't know why some people hold onto antibodies longer vs. shorter. They also still don't know that the magic antibody number is for covid protection. It's also important for people with a history of heart disease in their family to have an option that hasn't shown heart issues. Better wording could have been “Moderna may turn out to be a long run winner.” 👍
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Post by addymac on Oct 27, 2021 14:53:20 GMT -6
Oh kbw I’m SO sorry. Is there somewhere your H could quarantine from for a week or so? Or somewhere you and the kids could stay for a week to stay away from him just in case he is infected? Is talking to him about the kids not being vaccinated and possibly infecting them at all possible? Like would that help him get a test or quarantine away from you guys? Like he doesn’t care or think his kids health is important? Im so sorry you guys see on such different pages regarding Covid safety.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 15:17:03 GMT -6
addymac I talked with him. Those who tested positive he hasn’t been in close contact with in the last 48-72 hours. He spoke to one from across a warehouse on Monday morning but that’s it the whole thing is ducked up on his works part because of the rules they are following with symptoms and what they are requiring for testing. And unfortunately the only place we would go is my parents 30 minutes away and my mom had more exposure than H. ETA: so based on his proximity (he wouldn’t be identified by the health department as a close contact) we are going to just monitor symptoms. I am taking over daycare drop offs and he’s going to mask anytime anyone comes into his warehouse space.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 15:27:07 GMT -6
Can I just say though that as a manager telling people to come in sick anf then being sent home by someone looks better than a call in is fucked up in the middle of a pandemic. All of this stress could have been avoided.
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Post by addymac on Oct 27, 2021 15:42:57 GMT -6
Can I just say though that as a manager telling people to come in sick anf then being sent home by someone looks better than a call in is fucked up in the middle of a pandemic. All of this stress could have been avoided. That’s so fucked up. I’m glad he’s not a close contact and I agree that I would let the kids TOT.
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Post by angelashly on Oct 27, 2021 15:58:52 GMT -6
Our university is at 67% vaccinated. We have until Monday to hit 70% for our full week of Thanksgiving. What kills me is that I know of faculty and staff who haven't reported their vaccination status because they don't want their information saved. We don't even keep the card! We just look at it and put their ID number in the database. I'm one of the few with access to add people, and I'm half tempted to put their shit in anyway. (I won't, because duh.) Incredible that your admin already has access to their SSN, birthdate, address, but you know, vaccination status...OVER THE LINE!!!! 💀
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Post by Pizzaslut on Oct 27, 2021 17:03:35 GMT -6
Like if I’m being 100% honest Covid has shown how different H and I are the cracks in our marriage. I highly doubt if it were for me he’d be vaccinated. And that’s just because he doesn’t ever go to a doctor/ take a flu shot type stuff. And once he was vaccinated snd the mask mandate was lifted his mask was off. And now I have all of this to deal with. But I’m the one that has to break the kids hearts all the time and deal with all of the quarantines while working. Ugh I’m sorry. I’m in a similar situation and it really sucks.
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Post by cnf on Oct 27, 2021 18:43:14 GMT -6
I’m done. Fucking H just called me and multiple people he works with just tested positive. They were showing symptoms at work and freaking got rapid negatives and were allowed to continue to work. And h won’t get tested unless he’s symptomatic and I feel horrible for our kids because we didn’t let them tot last year and now this. I just want to scream and cry. Oh man, I am so sorry. Sending all the everythings that he ends up negative.
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Post by kohlscash on Oct 28, 2021 3:19:29 GMT -6
kbw I'm sorry this happened and agree no one sick with Covid-like symptoms should be leaving their home. That said, ToT is low risk to candy givers and seekers alike. No one is going to catch Covid by quickly plopping a piece of candy into an open bag outdoors, and we now know Covid doesn't live very long on surfaces. I'd definitely still allow my kids to go, given YH wasn't a close contact and assuming he remains healthy. Where I live, students can still go to school if someone else in the house was a close contact, They also have the option to test and stay if they were directly exposed to a positive case. (Both scenarios, assuming no symptoms across the board.) No school spread within Test and Stay program in our town thus far. Hopefully lots of people will make up grab and go style baggies like last year 🧡🖤🎃
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 19:00:35 GMT -6
So my mom and I were talking and discussing the at home tests. The more and more I think about them I think they’ve created part of the problem. Positives don’t get reported to the health department which leaves gaps in contact tracing and those who are symptomatic but negative just take the word of it and never follow up with a pcr.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 19:31:01 GMT -6
So my mom and I were talking and discussing the at home tests. The more and more I think about them I think they’ve created part of the problem. Positives don’t get reported to the health department which leaves gaps in contact tracing and those who are symptomatic but negative just take the word of it and never follow up with a pcr. We struggle with this a lot in the hospital world. We have one COVID patient who we don't have any record of when her COVID test was - she claimed she tested positive at home, then she went to a rural hospital where they supposedly swabbed her but they couldn't find any record of the result. We don't re-test patients who have been tested at outlying facilities. It's all kind of a mess.
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Post by McBenny on Oct 29, 2021 5:45:19 GMT -6
YLE post about Halloween: Trick-or-treating: It's different this year Last year I pled not to cancel Halloween. We could celebrate safely by implementing innovative public health mitigation measures, like candy chutes made of PVC pipe, wearing masks with costumes, and keeping trick-or-treat gangs small. This year’s a lot different. As parents, it may seem no different because kids don’t have vaccines and 2,953 counties (out of 3,216) are still in high transmission. But our understanding of the virus has evolved. We’re learning more and more every day. And this evolving science can inform us how to lead a more strategic life, like celebrating Halloween. This year I would place trick-or-treating far less risky than last year. But this morning I was surprised when the Kaiser Family Foundation published some statistics: -1 in 8 parents say their kids will not go trick-or-treating because of COVID19 -Lower income, Hispanic, and Democratic-leaning parents are more likely to have their kids stay home Some of these green bars below are pretty big. This hesitation could be due to a myriad of things. Some may be playing it safe because of low vaccination rates their county or maybe some families recently lost loved ones to COVID19 and the trauma is raw. I also think these numbers are partially driven by the fact that we haven’t explained how the science has evolved since last year… ***So, how has our understanding changed since last Halloween?*** Last Halloween we were scrambling to still understand the virus. We didn’t have a centralized, coordinated, well-funded public health response, so we couldn’t quickly learn, for example, common transmission routes. Since, the science has slowly come out and we have a much better grip on patterns: Outdoor transmission is very rare. You may have heard the 10% rule—10% of viral transmission happens in outdoor settings. The White House has even referenced this number. The 10% came from a large, peer-reviewed study in Nov 2020 which pooled all transmission studies ever done at the time. But the authors of that paper later clarified that this was a very conservative estimate and the “real risk” was far lower. There are many studies that show that <1% of viral transmission is outdoors. For example, a much more recent study found construction workers transmitted the virus to 26% of their indoor coworkers while infecting only 1.4% of their outdoor coworkers despite shouting and eating together outside. Airflow is key. Quick interactions are also key. We’ve learned that when outside transmission does happen, it’s due to lengthy and close interactions. Given that trick-or-treating interactions are quick, this will be to our advantage for a safe weekend. Fomite (surface) transmission is extremely rare. We’re talking about only one or two documented cases in the “real world”. Last year, we knew the virus stayed on surfaces a long time in tightly controlled lab settings, but the real world isn’t a lab. Temperature fluctuations and evaporation, for example, can easily damage virus particles. There’s no need to wipe down candy or put in the cupboard for a few days before digging in. Vaccines are now a thing. It’s hard to believe but last year we didn’t have vaccines. Today 67% of people 12+ years are fully vaccinated. The most recent research (from today) shows that vaccinations continue to prevent transmission. Transmission reduction isn’t nearly as strong with Delta, but anything helps. Of course, vaccination rates across counties drastically range: McPherson County in Nebraska, for example, has a 13% vaccination rate while Presidio County on the Texas border has a 99% vaccination rate. Here is a good county-level map to see where your county stands. If your vaccination rate is low, I would consider adding an extra layer of protection (like a mask) while trick-or-treating. ***And if you’re handing out candy…*** Please recognize that parents are still very much in the middle of a pandemic, even if you’re not. Things you could do to de-stress parents include: 1. Sitting on your porch and placing the candy bucket a few feet away from you. The risk of transmission would essentially go to zero. 2. If you want to literally hand candy to kids, wear a mask. Even if you’re vaccinated. As a parent, it would make me feel so much more comfortable. 3. If you’re symptomatic, do not hand out candy. Turn off your lights. 4. Please wash your hands. 5. Consider handing the accompanying parent an adult beverage 🙂 Have a safe and enjoyable Halloween weekend! I’ll see you next week. Love, YLE This post is copy and pasted from my newsletter. All the data sources, hyperlinks, and graphs can be found here: yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/trick-or-treating-its-different-this?justPublished=true
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Post by gingy on Oct 29, 2021 12:33:18 GMT -6
WE HIT 70%! WHOLE WEEK OFF, HERE I COME!
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Post by Pizzaslut on Oct 29, 2021 13:09:49 GMT -6
WE HIT 70%! WHOLE WEEK OFF, HERE I COME! The 4 of you are going to have so much fun!
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Post by PandaWatch on Oct 29, 2021 13:26:19 GMT -6
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Post by PandaWatch on Oct 29, 2021 13:27:06 GMT -6
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Post by abs on Oct 29, 2021 15:45:32 GMT -6
Houston area people: Texas Children’s Hospital is scheduling appointments starting November 6th! I snagged one on the 17th. If pharmacies end up doing them I’ll switch but am thrilled to have something booked!
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Post by cmb on Oct 29, 2021 16:15:34 GMT -6
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Post by cmb on Oct 29, 2021 16:18:20 GMT -6
I’m in a gif-ing mood. I already told DS1 we are taking him next weekend. Don’t care where, his arm is ready lol
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Post by thatgolfb on Oct 29, 2021 16:19:58 GMT -6
Our pediatrician’s office sent out an email saying they promise they will let everyone know when they can bring their kids in, and you really don’t have to call the office to ask. lol.
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Post by angelashly on Oct 29, 2021 16:20:18 GMT -6
Do we think moderna is far behind? I was hoping they would be submitting too so the three of us could have the same shot but I’m thinking it isn’t going to happen soon
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Post by angelashly on Oct 29, 2021 16:21:05 GMT -6
Our pediatrician’s office sent out an email saying they promise they will let everyone know when they can bring their kids in, and you really don’t have to call the office to ask. lol. Ours already told me last month when I called to do my DD’s wellness appointment set up that they aren’t going to do them.
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Post by brux on Oct 29, 2021 16:22:12 GMT -6
Do we think moderna is far behind? I was hoping they would be submitting too so the three of us could have the same shot but I’m thinking it isn’t going to happen soon moderna isn’t even available for under 18, is it?
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Post by willow on Oct 29, 2021 16:37:07 GMT -6
Do we think moderna is far behind? I was hoping they would be submitting too so the three of us could have the same shot but I’m thinking it isn’t going to happen soon Of course do what you feel best for your family but I’m getting Pfizer asap for mine, because the anxiety of sending him to school unvaccinated every day is enough for me. You could always get a moderna booster for her later on.
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Post by willow on Oct 29, 2021 16:38:19 GMT -6
Do we think moderna is far behind? I was hoping they would be submitting too so the three of us could have the same shot but I’m thinking it isn’t going to happen soon moderna isn’t even available for under 18, is it? It is not.
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