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Post by athn64 on Jan 11, 2021 10:10:45 GMT -6
I don't understand how anyone is able to focus on work right now. I'm getting stuff done, but. It's a freaking coup attempt on our government. And if they win, everyone I love is in danger. H disagrees with me that it really affects us. Oh to be a white man who doesn't have to worry about politics. We had a fight. He wanted to keep just calling it a riot and says that I wasn't this worked up 4 years ago. Like, this didn't happen 4 years ago, my dude. After some yelling, he is seeing my side. But still is in the "it's miles and miles away from us" territory.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 11, 2021 10:11:12 GMT -6
Hoyer introduced H Res to demand the 25th amendment
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Post by cythe on Jan 11, 2021 10:11:32 GMT -6
Well, they said it would be fast and... it was very fast
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2021 10:12:08 GMT -6
Well that was quick.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 11, 2021 10:12:24 GMT -6
I didn't see who objected. Someone from WV. Adjourned until 9 a.m. tomorrow
ETA it was Mooney
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Post by dc2london on Jan 11, 2021 10:13:20 GMT -6
I almost cautioned that today would be very uneventful on the House floor but I've retired from the prediction business
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Post by starbuck on Jan 11, 2021 10:14:24 GMT -6
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Post by athn64 on Jan 11, 2021 10:15:01 GMT -6
I almost cautioned that today would be very uneventful on the House floor but I've retired from the prediction business expected it to be quick because it was all for UC. We knew someone would object to it.
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Post by ozziebear on Jan 11, 2021 10:16:28 GMT -6
Hi! I’ve been lurking and appreciating these threads the last few weeks! Just want to point out that some of these arrest videos circulating the are not from this past week, and that most of these rioters are not going to land immediately on the no fly list. Just not how the no-fly list works. I don’t think any of them have been accused of/charged with actual terror charges (correct me if I’m wrong!), and it’s a process to get on there and be notified (a vague process that needs seriously updating and congressional action IMO). That said, the Airlines themselves can ban people via their own no-fly lists, which could be what’s happening. But it’s likely not the TSC doing it. Just trying to point out misinformation where it pops up (I’m a former federal employee who worked on related issues). Thank you for the laughs and info this week! I think it is the airlines banning due to the people’s actions on the flight into DC. If you won’t wear your mask during the flight, the airlines are banning people. Yep, the airlines actually have much more power and timeliness here for making you pay for your assholery on a plane and don’t really have to answer questions about it (unlike for DHS and the TSC no-fly list). No mandated right to be on a plane, assholes! I’ve just seen a lot of people assuming it’s the swift banhammer of the federal government (not necessarily here), and it’s not.
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Post by athn64 on Jan 11, 2021 10:16:57 GMT -6
H disagrees with me that it really affects us. Oh to be a white man who doesn't have to worry about politics. We had a fight. He wanted to keep just calling it a riot and says that I wasn't this worked up 4 years ago. Like, this didn't happen 4 years ago, my dude. After some yelling, he is seeing my side. But still is in the "it's miles and miles away from us" territory. Ugh I'm sorry ❤️ That would really frustrate me. He really is a wonderful man most of the time. And he's fairly liberal. He just lives in his own little bubble here in the Midwest. We're a small rural town, so most people don't see things in Washington as affecting us. I'm slowly trying to get him more connected.
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Post by richard on Jan 11, 2021 10:19:01 GMT -6
I need more videos of traitors getting arrested/kicked off planes. This might be what finally gets me on tiktok. This one is great. "There's no crying in terrorism!" I read that this was actually from November. Which actually I was relieved to read due to the kids. Just FYI.
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Post by Jesslfar on Jan 11, 2021 10:19:42 GMT -6
My kids all have DL I have to be involved with today. If anyone has time can you page me if anything big happens please?
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Post by iruntodrink on Jan 11, 2021 10:21:03 GMT -6
Welcome ozziebear, and thank you for bringing your level of expertise!
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Post by ozziebear on Jan 11, 2021 10:25:55 GMT -6
Welcome ozziebear, and thank you for bringing your level of expertise! Thank you! “Expertise” may be an exaggeration haha, but I’ll pass along what I know at least. We moved away from the DC area (NOVA) this year. I’ve missed it since we left, and especially have missed it in a bizarre way this week. Just wish I could hug the city and fuel the energy to do what needs to be done to drain the Trump swamp in the coming weeks.
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Post by lemondrop on Jan 11, 2021 10:27:48 GMT -6
This one is great. "There's no crying in terrorism!" I read that this was actually from November. Which actually I was relieved to read due to the kids. Just FYI. I know, TikTok did me dirty. I should move it to the covid thread.
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Post by lucylou on Jan 11, 2021 10:30:06 GMT -6
Can somebody explain this to me like I’m 5.. I thought invoking the 25th and articles of impeachment were 2 different things. I thought they gave up on the 25th because they wouldn’t have the votes and today was about impeachment. But then they asked for the 25th, but the news is still calling it impeachment. Soo, are they 1 in the same? Where was Nancy?
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Post by byjove on Jan 11, 2021 10:32:05 GMT -6
Can somebody explain this to me like I’m 5.. I thought invoking the 25th and article of impeachment were 2 different things. I thought they gave up on the 25th because they wouldn’t have the votes and today was about impeachment. But then they asked for the 25th, but the news is still calling it impeachment. Soo, are they 1 in the same? Where was Nancy? They are not the same thing. The 25th is initiated by the VP and cabinet members and is removal of the president from office. Impeachment is via congress and does not always/necessarily result in removal of the president from office. ETA Nancy asked for the 25th and is basically saying if the VP and cabinet fail to act, then impeachment proceedings will occur
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Post by lucylou on Jan 11, 2021 10:36:18 GMT -6
Can somebody explain this to me like I’m 5.. I thought invoking the 25th and article of impeachment were 2 different things. I thought they gave up on the 25th because they wouldn’t have the votes and today was about impeachment. But then they asked for the 25th, but the news is still calling it impeachment. Soo, are they 1 in the same? Where was Nancy? They are not the same thing. The 25th is initiated by the VP and cabinet members and is removal of the president from office. Impeachment is via congress and does not always/necessarily result in removal of the president from office. ETA Nancy asked for the 25th and is basically saying if the VP and cabinet fail to act, then impeachment proceedings will occur Well that’s what I thought but all the headlines are “house formally introduces article of impeachment against Trump.” So I am confused
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Post by AmyG on Jan 11, 2021 10:38:12 GMT -6
News headlines are a little misleading Pistol in other thread said "So they will present the resolution on the 25th today. Pence has 24 hours. If no response then it goes to the floor for another 24? Then they will begin impeachment? So impeachment Wednesday?" Thats right?
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Post by cythe on Jan 11, 2021 10:39:23 GMT -6
They are not the same thing. The 25th is initiated by the VP and cabinet members and is removal of the president from office. Impeachment is via congress and does not always/necessarily result in removal of the president from office. ETA Nancy asked for the 25th and is basically saying if the VP and cabinet fail to act, then impeachment proceedings will occur Well that’s what I thought but all the headlines are “house formally introduces article of impeachment against Trump.” So I am confused The house met about a half hour ago to discuss the 25th. It was immediately objected to - which they knew would happen. The proceedings today required unanimous support from the house and the singular objection immediately ended that. Just a few minutes ago the house then officially filed their impeachment articles which is why thats the headline.
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Post by ozziebear on Jan 11, 2021 10:39:50 GMT -6
They are not the same thing. The 25th is initiated by the VP and cabinet members and is removal of the president from office. Impeachment is via congress and does not always/necessarily result in removal of the president from office. ETA Nancy asked for the 25th and is basically saying if the VP and cabinet fail to act, then impeachment proceedings will occur Well that’s what I thought but all the headlines are “house formally introduces article of impeachment against Trump.” So I am confused Since Pence/Cabinet won’t take steps to remove him (via the 25th), the House has started its process via Impeachment. Basically both the executive branch and legislative branch have constitutional processes for removing a president. House basically just said “since you won’t do it your way, we’ll do it our way.” The president can also challenge the invocation of the 25th, and basically get a hearing in Congress (and obviously Trump would challenge). Then 2/3rds of Congress will have to vote to uphold the cabinet’s decision to invoke the 25th (which it’s unlikely to do given the current numbers on each side).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2021 10:40:24 GMT -6
Can somebody explain this to me like I’m 5.. I thought invoking the 25th and article of impeachment were 2 different things. I thought they gave up on the 25th because they wouldn’t have the votes and today was about impeachment. But then they asked for the 25th, but the news is still calling it impeachment. Soo, are they 1 in the same? Where was Nancy? They are not the same thing. The 25th is initiated by the VP and cabinet members and is removal of the president from office. Impeachment is via congress and does not always/necessarily result in removal of the president from office. ETA Nancy asked for the 25th and is basically saying if the VP and cabinet fail to act, then impeachment proceedings will occur Why is WaPo reporting the House introduced impeachment?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2021 10:41:18 GMT -6
Nevermind!
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Post by byjove on Jan 11, 2021 10:41:36 GMT -6
They are not the same thing. The 25th is initiated by the VP and cabinet members and is removal of the president from office. Impeachment is via congress and does not always/necessarily result in removal of the president from office. ETA Nancy asked for the 25th and is basically saying if the VP and cabinet fail to act, then impeachment proceedings will occur Well that’s what I thought but all the headlines are “house formally introduces article of impeachment against Trump.” So I am confused Well it hasn't been voted on and they aren't proceeding with it further today, but technically the resolution for impeachment was introduced during that short session. Here's the language. www.washingtonpost.com/context/house-impeachment-resolution-for-incitement-of-insurrection/f0b25871-d4a2-4922-ae0c-26d95d144b51/?itid=lk_inline_manual_32
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Post by cythe on Jan 11, 2021 10:42:10 GMT -6
Congress was trying to go with the easiest solution first, which would be to ask all the members to agree that Trump needed to be removed via the 25th Amendment. It didnt work, so now they're trying the more difficult and time consuming route.
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Post by cythe on Jan 11, 2021 10:45:20 GMT -6
Oh good, CNN will be discussing Melania next. She can GTFO with her husband. I hope she files for divorce.
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Post by lucylou on Jan 11, 2021 10:45:36 GMT -6
Ahh ok. The headlines were throwing me off. I didn’t realize they also filed for the impeachment. If it was televised, then I missed it. If it was just pushing paperwork, then I guess there was nothing to miss.
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Post by Pistol on Jan 11, 2021 10:45:55 GMT -6
I didn't see who objected. Someone from WV. Adjourned until 9 a.m. tomorrow ETA it was Mooney ugh. I didn't know much about him so I googled. This was on his website: "Alex’s mother, Lala (Suarez) Mooney, was born and raised in Fidel Castro’s Cuba, where she was thrown into jail for seven weeks for opposing Castro’s communist regime. When she was 20, Lala escaped Cuba and fled to America to restart her life. Alex’s father, Vincent, was sent to Vietnam when Lala was expecting their first child. He served as an Engineering Captain and was awarded the Bronze Star. Listening to his parents’ inspiring stories, Alex knew from a young age that he wanted to spend his life fighting for the American ideals set forth by our Founding Fathers." I really want to know what his parents think of his nonsense.
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Post by clucky on Jan 11, 2021 10:53:22 GMT -6
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Post by cakewench on Jan 11, 2021 10:59:14 GMT -6
Nobody is being mean to Melanie- most people forgot she existed this past week. I don't know if this has been covered (catching up, busy morning), but there was a story circulating the other day attacking her for working on her coffee table book while the insurrection was happening. Not saying that justifies her weird AF response, but that's the only time I saw her come up in the past few days.
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