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Post by Tlex on Sept 24, 2020 6:20:31 GMT -6
It's area dependent. Where I live it can be anywhere from 30-50 a day depending what type of centre you are using and if they have a government grant to lower their rates. You can also get it subsidized if you're low income. But my area also has lower wages and the cost of everything else (gas, food, taxes, etc) are higher that many other areas so it's a trade-off really. We're not low income and we get subsidy (Toronto). Our daycare rate was $30 per day with subsidy based on income. It's $90 per day without. Well what counts as “low income” is completely COL dependent. In Greater Vancouver any household making under $180k is “low income” enough to qualify for childcare subsidy. I’m sure Toronto is similar. In Ottawa, it’s around $100k. The subsidies are granted by the cities with much of the money for them coming from provincial funding dollars.
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Post by Tlex on Sept 24, 2020 6:24:10 GMT -6
adelbert and @blurnettitstooearlyfornumbersiamsorry Quebec has universal childcare and while not perfect it’s a great system to base a national program off of, so it could be done, but I’ll believe it when I see it. It’s desperately needed and also critical for ECEs being able to lobby for living wages. Even in super HCOL cities like Vancouver and Toronto the average ECE is making at most $45k. That’s quite rare and means they’re part of a unionized centre. Another thing Canada doesn’t have is a universal lunch program for children in school - fun fact, we are the only G7 country without one and it’s been called out by the UN several times as a failure to ensure equitable access to nutrition to children.
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Post by Tlex on Sept 24, 2020 6:26:53 GMT -6
With my luck they will totally bring in childcare since my youngest is starting JK next year. Tlex I’m not completely convinced it’s going to happen but it is desperately needed. For the spreadsheet I’m $65 a day for FT and $33 a day for before and after care for my DD1. Oh I know, with my luck as soon as I get my third kid into JK it will roll out! I had to quit working as an ECE because I couldn’t afford childcare on a childcare workers salary. It all worked out great in the end and I’m very happy to be where I am now, but I think that really says something about the whole setup.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 6:57:59 GMT -6
We're not low income and we get subsidy (Toronto). Our daycare rate was $30 per day with subsidy based on income. It's $90 per day without. Well what counts as “low income” is completely COL dependent. In Greater Vancouver any household making under $180k is “low income” enough to qualify for childcare subsidy. I’m sure Toronto is similar. In Ottawa, it’s around $100k. The subsidies are granted by the cities with much of the money for them coming from provincial funding dollars. Ah, I see. I'm so happy that we have the subsidy program, I don't know what we would do without it. I think there is a lot of misunderstanding surrounding it, though. I've known people who didn't bother applying because it was only for "low income" families.
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Post by August Blooms on Sept 24, 2020 7:09:00 GMT -6
With my luck they will totally bring in childcare since my youngest is starting JK next year. Tlex I’m not completely convinced it’s going to happen but it is desperately needed. For the spreadsheet I’m $65 a day for FT and $33 a day for before and after care for my DD1. Oh I know, with my luck as soon as I get my third kid into JK it will roll out! I had to quit working as an ECE because I couldn’t afford childcare on a childcare workers salary. It all worked out great in the end and I’m very happy to be where I am now, but I think that really says something about the whole setup. It really does. My kids daycare has some sort of program that they may get a discount or subsidy for bringing their kids to the facility. It’s crazy to me the wages they earn because they are magical angels who care for my wild children. On the topic of living wages in HCOL areas, my H was working from home last week and I was doing interviews and I gave him shit for their starting wage. I was shocked, unfortunately it’s a unionized environment and there’s not much to be done. I told him he better not give them a hard time when they negotiate their next CBA. It ties into the PSW and long term care home issues that have yet again come up due to the pandemic. That’s another job that should have way better security and wages. It’s been eye opening with my BIL losing his mother to Covid in a LTC faculty and my 100 year old step grandmother trying to get a PSW to help her.
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Post by August Blooms on Sept 24, 2020 7:10:24 GMT -6
I’m fired up today lol I’ve already had 2 coffees and been at work for a few hours and it’s barely 9.
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Post by Tlex on Sept 24, 2020 8:07:13 GMT -6
I’m fired up today lol I’ve already had 2 coffees and been at work for a few hours and it’s barely 9. Omg same here. BIG MOOD. While I was blow drying my hair I was making up a scheme where the conservatives from Canada and the US take the south and the rest of us take the north and give the land back to indigenous peoples and ask permission for what parts of it we can be on, and pay taxes to the First Nations for what resources we use and earn income from in those areas.
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Post by Notarobot on Sept 24, 2020 9:01:27 GMT -6
related to your scheme Tlex, is anyone following the story about what's happening in Nova Scotia between the Mi'kmaw fishermen and the settler fishermen? I'm listening to the Canadaland from today about it. From what I've heard it seems like DFO could have headed this off at the pass years ago but are and have been, as usual, inept. Media is painting it like the Indigenous fishermen are in the wrong here when it is a constitutional treaty right for them to fish for a 'moderate' livelihood.
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Post by emma on Sept 24, 2020 9:53:39 GMT -6
I pay more in Calgary than i did in Vancouver for childcare which was quite a shock to discover. It's the only thing that costs more here but still, it was a substantial difference.
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Post by emma on Sept 24, 2020 9:56:53 GMT -6
Throne Speech - i'm concerned about a potential no confidence vote. While i'd dearly love for Trudeau to be booted and Jagmeet to be elected, in reality i think if we went back to the polls there's a very real chance the conservatives will win.
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Post by emma on Sept 24, 2020 10:02:39 GMT -6
related to your scheme Tlex , is anyone following the story about what's happening in Nova Scotia between the Mi'kmaw fishermen and the settler fishermen? I'm listening to the Canadaland from today about it. From what I've heard it seems like DFO could have headed this off at the pass years ago but are and have been, as usual, inept. Media is painting it like the Indigenous fishermen are in the wrong here when it is a constitutional treaty right for them to fish for a 'moderate' livelihood. i've been lightly following but feel like i don't have enough info to form a real opinion. I'm 100% for protecting fish stock and environmental restrictions but also fully onboard with Indigenous rights. So i'm really torn between my deepest belief Indigenous people should have the right to fish whatever whenever but also wanting to protect the lobsters. I don't care about the white commercial fishermens boohooing.
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Post by Notarobot on Sept 24, 2020 10:26:43 GMT -6
related to your scheme Tlex , is anyone following the story about what's happening in Nova Scotia between the Mi'kmaw fishermen and the settler fishermen? I'm listening to the Canadaland from today about it. From what I've heard it seems like DFO could have headed this off at the pass years ago but are and have been, as usual, inept. Media is painting it like the Indigenous fishermen are in the wrong here when it is a constitutional treaty right for them to fish for a 'moderate' livelihood. i've been lightly following but feel like i don't have enough info to form a real opinion. I'm 100% for protecting fish stock and environmental restrictions but also fully onboard with Indigenous rights. So i'm really torn between my deepest belief Indigenous people should have the right to fish whatever whenever but also wanting to protect the lobsters. I don't care about the white commercial fishermens boohooing. A distinction made in the podcast that I thought was important was that commercial fishermen have the privilege of fishing, while the Mi'kmaw have the right to fish. So it's legal. The amount of lobster they pull out for the moderate living (a term created by the courts 20 years ago to keep Indigenous folks from making too much money off fishing) is nowhere near enough to deplete the stocks. I used to work in conservation and was chatting with some of my old colleagues working in NS about the issue and where I landed is that it's ridiculous for these people to say Indigenous folks would deplete fish stocks and we need to control for that, when they (Mi'kmaw and other Indigenous peoples) understood and understand 'conservation' and maintaining a balance better than any commercial fisher/ settler industry etc. They made the same claim about lobster stocks 20 years ago, and the science, even from DFO, shows that the stocks are healthy and this will not impact the stocks. It is being used IMO as a racist dog whistle. The podcast is worth a listen if anyone is interested. There's lots more info. e.g. the Mi'kmaw have 150 traps out right now and the commercial fisheries in season have 360-390k traps.
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Post by Notarobot on Sept 24, 2020 10:30:48 GMT -6
oh and emma, not arguing or combative, sorry if it came off that way. I agree it is complicated. Just wanted to share some info based on what you said because I think the media is misleading us, quelle surprise.
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Post by emma on Sept 24, 2020 10:31:21 GMT -6
i've been lightly following but feel like i don't have enough info to form a real opinion. I'm 100% for protecting fish stock and environmental restrictions but also fully onboard with Indigenous rights. So i'm really torn between my deepest belief Indigenous people should have the right to fish whatever whenever but also wanting to protect the lobsters. I don't care about the white commercial fishermens boohooing. A distinction made in the podcast that I thought was important was that commercial fishermen have the privilege of fishing, while the Mi'kmaw have the right to fish. So it's legal. The amount of lobster they pull out for the moderate living (a term created by the courts 20 years ago to keep Indigenous folks from making too much money off fishing) is nowhere near enough to deplete the stocks. I used to work in conservation and was chatting with some of my old colleagues working in NS about the issue and where I landed is that it's ridiculous for these people to say Indigenous folks would deplete fish stocks and we need to control for that, when they (Mi'kmaw and other Indigenous peoples) understood and understand 'conservation' and maintaining a balance better than any commercial fisher/ settler industry etc. They made the same claim about lobster stocks 20 years ago, and the science, even from DFO, shows that the stocks are healthy and this will not impact the stocks. It is being used IMO as a racist dog whistle. The podcast is worth a listen if anyone is interested. There's lots more info. e.g. the Mi'kmaw have 150 traps out right now and the commercial fisheries in season have 360-390k traps. this is really good info that i wasn't getting from other places. I'm going to get over my podcast hate and go listen but you've pretty much swayed me into the solid Indiginous people can fish whatever whenever camp.
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Post by emma on Sept 24, 2020 10:34:45 GMT -6
oh and emma , not arguing or combative, sorry if it came off that way. I agree it is complicated. Just wanted to share some info based on what you said because I think the media is misleading us, quelle surprise. oh i didn't take you as combative at all. I appreciate being told fact or where to find facts, and in this case i get to continue to be both pro indigenous rights and pro lobsters
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Post by Tlex on Sept 24, 2020 10:36:58 GMT -6
related to your scheme Tlex, is anyone following the story about what's happening in Nova Scotia between the Mi'kmaw fishermen and the settler fishermen? I'm listening to the Canadaland from today about it. From what I've heard it seems like DFO could have headed this off at the pass years ago but are and have been, as usual, inept. Media is painting it like the Indigenous fishermen are in the wrong here when it is a constitutional treaty right for them to fish for a 'moderate' livelihood. I am dying to comment re: ineptitude of the DFO but it’s a real life connection that I just can’t comment on here. But I feel comfortable saying yes, ineptitude would be the right word. I’m sorry I know this is vague posting but just allow me this, it’s basically a vague vent instead of the real vent I’d like to do.
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Post by Notarobot on Sept 24, 2020 10:45:49 GMT -6
related to your scheme Tlex , is anyone following the story about what's happening in Nova Scotia between the Mi'kmaw fishermen and the settler fishermen? I'm listening to the Canadaland from today about it. From what I've heard it seems like DFO could have headed this off at the pass years ago but are and have been, as usual, inept. Media is painting it like the Indigenous fishermen are in the wrong here when it is a constitutional treaty right for them to fish for a 'moderate' livelihood. I am dying to comment re: ineptitude of the DFO but it’s a real life connection that I just can’t comment on here. But I feel comfortable saying yes, ineptitude would be the right word. I’m sorry I know this is vague posting but just allow me this, it’s basically a vague vent instead of the real vent I’d like to do. Trust me, from working peripherally to them for many years I can fully imagine your rant.
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Post by emma on Sept 24, 2020 11:15:54 GMT -6
i'm going to put this here because i don't know a better place for it...
My company got bought in the spring by a US based global company and ever since all the all hands calls have been very America centric, like the state of covid in the US, economy in the US etc.. This is the second time i've been through a US company buy out and it's kind of disheartening to be honest, because it's the same shit all over again where Canadian offices are forgotten about or at best treated like an America light extension
Sorry for the rant. I just really enjoyed working for my company and now it's very meh
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Post by babybean on Sept 28, 2020 9:37:40 GMT -6
700 new cases in Ontario, which is the highest we’ve ever had. I’m nervous about SS living in a hotspot and going between houses. Plus cold and flu season. Ugh!
Stay safe everyone.
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Post by babybean on Sept 28, 2020 10:35:41 GMT -6
The 640 cases from April was only after testing 12000+ people whereas the 700 now is from 40k+. That made me feel a lot better.
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Post by emma on Sept 28, 2020 11:06:47 GMT -6
The 640 cases from April was only after testing 12000+ people whereas the 700 now is from 40k+. That made me feel a lot better. it would be great if the news would shift to put more emphasis on the test positivity rate vs straight up new cases.
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Post by emma on Sept 28, 2020 11:13:46 GMT -6
i've had a really confused and derpy moment this weekend. I saw a lawn sign in my neighbourhood that said "Defund Alberta Parks", i drove past it twice and slowed down the second time to make sure i was seeing it right because why are people angry at public parks and the gov are already defunding them? I just googled it to find out more and was even more confused because the website seemed to be pro parks. It took a good 5 mins of readying this website to realize it says "Defend" not "Defund". Dyslexia strikes again
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Post by August Blooms on Sept 28, 2020 14:13:05 GMT -6
Of course I was on our last roll of paper towels when everyone decided to hoard. My mom managed to score a six pack for me when she was out this weekend. I don’t need a repeat of March, that was just crazy
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Post by Notarobot on Sept 29, 2020 14:10:59 GMT -6
Of course I was on our last roll of paper towels when everyone decided to hoard. My mom managed to score a six pack for me when she was out this weekend. I don’t need a repeat of March, that was just crazy I went to the grocery store yesterday and there was a sign in the paper towel section about only allowing one per customer due to demand. I had no idea what was going on. What's with the sudden hoarding of paper towels? Do people just need to hoard for comfort when numbers rise??? Don't they know I have a puppy peeing all over my damn house and need paper towels like, now? lol
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Post by babybean on Sept 29, 2020 14:30:49 GMT -6
Of course I was on our last roll of paper towels when everyone decided to hoard. My mom managed to score a six pack for me when she was out this weekend. I don’t need a repeat of March, that was just crazy I went to the grocery store yesterday and there was a sign in the paper towel section about only allowing one per customer due to demand. I had no idea what was going on. What's with the sudden hoarding of paper towels? Do people just need to hoard for comfort when numbers rise??? Don't they know I have a puppy peeing all over my damn house and need paper towels like, now? lol I can mail you some if you need.
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Post by Notarobot on Sept 29, 2020 14:34:20 GMT -6
I went to the grocery store yesterday and there was a sign in the paper towel section about only allowing one per customer due to demand. I had no idea what was going on. What's with the sudden hoarding of paper towels? Do people just need to hoard for comfort when numbers rise??? Don't they know I have a puppy peeing all over my damn house and need paper towels like, now? lol I can mail you some if you need. You're so sweet. I bought a 6 pack and will just keep going back weekly to restock until people calm down on the hoarding again, hopefully soon? So I am okay for now. Also ideally the puppy eventually learns not to pee in the living room.
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Post by August Blooms on Sept 29, 2020 14:55:19 GMT -6
I scored two packs at Walmart today... I think there was an increase in use and maybe schools were snatching up store paper towel instead from a commercial supplier? I’m not sure but I know I’m good until the main panic dies down.
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Post by babybean on Sept 29, 2020 15:04:04 GMT -6
I can mail you some if you need. You're so sweet. I bought a 6 pack and will just keep going back weekly to restock until people calm down on the hoarding again, hopefully soon? So I am okay for now. Also ideally the puppy eventually learns not to pee in the living room. I bought a pack from Costco weeks ago before getting home and realizing I actually needed toilet paper. So I’ve been working through two Costco packs of paper towel. If your stores run dry let me know lol. (Anyone that needs things that are/end up out of stock, let me know and I’ll find a way to get you what you need)
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Post by Tlex on Sept 29, 2020 16:19:20 GMT -6
Everyone at work was talking about plans to start hoarding as the numbers go up. Folks in MTL are encouraging us to go for it because it’s already a shit show there. 😫
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Post by emma on Sept 29, 2020 18:55:16 GMT -6
People in the UK are hoarding again. My mum said her local supermarket was out of toilet paper and pasta.
Is this where I plug cloth rags as a replacement for paper towel? You need never run out of paper towel again
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