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Post by Notarobot on Sept 22, 2020 7:43:58 GMT -6
We didn’t get a test today (I was turned away 7x over 4h) and the centres are again at capacity for the day. I was told my best bet is to line up 4h before the centre opens tomorrow. We’re clearly not meeting our community’s testing needs and I’m really unimpressed. Got tested and now we wait. I'm glad you got tested! Things are so bad here as well (not sure if we are in the same city) and they are opening a few new centres but they just can't seem to get the capacity where it needs to be. Also a lot of the new centres need to a car to get to, and that doesn't help people in the city centre who don't have a car. And also those folks who can't spend 4 hours in line waiting. One of my colleagues' daughters has been sent home because a classmate tested positive. She needs to get a test but is going to basically need to take a day off work to try and get one for her, without any guarantees. It's really bad.
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Post by Notarobot on Sept 22, 2020 7:46:43 GMT -6
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Post by emma on Sept 22, 2020 9:58:21 GMT -6
i was actually really impressed with the testing here that we went through. DS got sent home at 11am for a developing cough and i had him booked for a test at 8.30pm the same day. The drive through test site was streamed into lanes for appointments vs non appointments and we waited in line for 10 mins, 5 mins to process and administer the test and then we were away. Results took 1.5 days.
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Post by valiente on Sept 22, 2020 10:14:33 GMT -6
i was actually really impressed with the testing here that we went through. DS got sent home at 11am for a developing cough and i had him booked for a test at 8.30pm the same day. The drive through test site was streamed into lanes for appointments vs non appointments and we waited in line for 10 mins, 5 mins to process and administer the test and then we were away. Results took 1.5 days. I’m glad that went so well for you! For the sake of comparison... We tried booking a test (book 48h out on average around here) yesterday. I checked my call logs and called 34 times between 9am and 6pm. MH called from his phone too and we never got through to book an appointment. The paperwork we left with today says to expect a result in 5-7 days.
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Post by hangry on Sept 22, 2020 10:39:08 GMT -6
My baby had cold symptoms last week, so we went Saturday morning for the while family to get tested. We got there before they opened and we’re lucky to get through in 1.5 hours. We didn’t get our (negative) results until 72 hours later. So i kept the big kids home from school on Monday since we were waiting for results, despite them not having symptoms. Well we got an email from the school board yesterday that if you are waiting for test results or if someone in the house has symptoms, as long as the student is symptom free, they can go to school. While I am conflicted, I ultimately agree with their decision. Kids would likely be out of school the majority of the time otherwise. (I reserve the right to change my opinion 😆)
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Post by emma on Sept 22, 2020 11:36:52 GMT -6
i was actually really impressed with the testing here that we went through. DS got sent home at 11am for a developing cough and i had him booked for a test at 8.30pm the same day. The drive through test site was streamed into lanes for appointments vs non appointments and we waited in line for 10 mins, 5 mins to process and administer the test and then we were away. Results took 1.5 days. I’m glad that went so well for you! For the sake of comparison... We tried booking a test (book 48h out on average around here) yesterday. I checked my call logs and called 34 times between 9am and 6pm. MH called from his phone too and we never got through to book an appointment. The paperwork we left with today says to expect a result in 5-7 days. it's crazy the differences and really sucks that there are people experiencing bad services and still facing barriers to get tested.
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Post by misskilljoy on Sept 22, 2020 16:44:33 GMT -6
Saw this morning they arrested him without incident. Sorry for what must have been a scary night! Hope you got some rest. I am so tired that I just trusted that the police had it and went to bed. Woke up this morning to the news that they arrested him about half an hour before I got up. Wild. Now I'm settling in for a board meeting, where they'll be discussing masks in K-3 (again), COVID-19, and some request they're making of the government. Mildly annoyed that OPH has said everyone with any symptom of COVID-19 must isolate or get a test. I understand and would 100% support this if we had, you know... adequate sick days, adequate testing capacity, etc. But with the current state of things, a lot of people are about to lose their jobs and a lot of kids are about to miss school. Testing times are being pushed to almost a week wait before you get your results, and now we're going to bog down the system even more. This is extreme.
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Post by misskilljoy on Sept 22, 2020 16:47:03 GMT -6
Got tested and now we wait. I'm glad you got tested! Things are so bad here as well (not sure if we are in the same city) and they are opening a few new centres but they just can't seem to get the capacity where it needs to be. Also a lot of the new centres need to a car to get to, and that doesn't help people in the city centre who don't have a car. And also those folks who can't spend 4 hours in line waiting. One of my colleagues' daughters has been sent home because a classmate tested positive. She needs to get a test but is going to basically need to take a day off work to try and get one for her, without any guarantees. It's really bad. You're in the same city as me, yeah? All kids' appointments just went to being done by appointment (and everything is booked 2 days out) with a very small number of walk-ins available. New appointments open at 7 am. It is the wild west of swimming lesson and day camp registration, only with more serious consequences. Cooool.
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Post by hangry on Sept 22, 2020 18:34:54 GMT -6
misskilljoy what is the discussion for masks for the young kids? Do they have to wear them now? My JKer is required and, so far, has done ok. The teacher has said everyone is doing a good job. Don’t know how much of that is said just to make us all feel good, but seems promising.
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Post by misskilljoy on Sept 22, 2020 19:42:09 GMT -6
misskilljoy what is the discussion for masks for the young kids? Do they have to wear them now? My JKer is required and, so far, has done ok. The teacher has said everyone is doing a good job. Don’t know how much of that is said just to make us all feel good, but seems promising. In my board, only grades 4-12 have to wear them. They are "strongly recommended" for K-3. Ultimately, board has no actual ability to enforce masks K-3 as they can't suspend/exclude students who don't comply.
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Post by valiente on Sept 23, 2020 7:34:25 GMT -6
The runny-nosed kid and I are negative! We’re waiting on two more results.
Then I guess we try to medicate (children’s Claritin?) and/or wait out the runny nose... because normal life can’t resume until everyone is symptom free for 24h.
ETA: Other kid is also negative.
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Post by emma on Sept 23, 2020 9:32:22 GMT -6
we just got an update from the school that kids need to stay home for 10 days or until symptoms resolve, whichever is longer even if they get a negative test. One of the symptoms is runny nose, i have no idea how they expect that to be realistic since it's getting colder and don't most people get a running nose from being out in the cold? Waiting for that to resolve means waiting until June?
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Post by emma on Sept 23, 2020 9:40:00 GMT -6
wait, i kept reading until a small section at the bottom:
If a student has symptoms related to allergies or a preexisting medical condition The student should be tested at least once before returning to school and have a negative COVID-19 test result. These symptoms would be their baseline health status. As long as the cough or runny nose is always the same and does not get worse, the student can attend school.
So i guess runny nose can be a baseline? But at what point do they say it's baseline and they can return, after the first 10 day isolation?
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Post by valiente on Sept 23, 2020 9:58:49 GMT -6
we just got an update from the school that kids need to stay home for 10 days or until symptoms resolve, whichever is longer even if they get a negative test. One of the symptoms is runny nose, i have no idea how they expect that to be realistic since it's getting colder and don't most people get a running nose from being out in the cold? Waiting for that to resolve means waiting until June? In our board a runny nose due to cold weather wouldn’t be flagged - it gives that specific example on our screening tool. I think BC has taken runny noses out of their school screening entirely. I have no idea. This is the pits.
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Post by danib on Sept 23, 2020 12:23:15 GMT -6
wait, i kept reading until a small section at the bottom: If a student has symptoms related to allergies or a preexisting medical condition The student should be tested at least once before returning to school and have a negative COVID-19 test result. These symptoms would be their baseline health status. As long as the cough or runny nose is always the same and does not get worse, the student can attend school. So i guess runny nose can be a baseline? But at what point do they say it's baseline and they can return, after the first 10 day isolation? public health here told me DS can return to school after his 10 days if he still has nasal congestion because that's his regular with allergies, even if it comes and goes it's still his baseline because it's a known issue.
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Post by Tlex on Sept 23, 2020 13:33:53 GMT -6
I’m good to send the kids to school tomorrow since they’ve been symptom free for over 24 hours. Much relief.
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Post by emma on Sept 23, 2020 15:39:07 GMT -6
last night I was quizzing DS on his letters and words that start with whatever letter and he nailed all of them. He's been back in school for 3 weeks and has made more progress than he did in the 3 months we tried to teach him at home. i will continue to sit in this house and talk to no one forever if it means he can go to school and learn in person. My gosh, i am not a good teacher.
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Post by emma on Sept 23, 2020 15:40:26 GMT -6
Also it hit me yesterday that i haven't had a conversation with a single person IRL other than MH or DS in over 6 months.
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Post by valiente on Sept 23, 2020 15:49:24 GMT -6
last night I was quizzing DS on his letters and words that start with whatever letter and he nailed all of them. He's been back in school for 3 weeks and has made more progress than he did in the 3 months we tried to teach him at home. i will continue to sit in this house and talk to no one forever if it means he can go to school and learn in person. My gosh, i am not a good teacher. I think that your laying those foundations at home likely gave him a big advantage in making those connections at school. Just wanted to put that out there.
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Post by August Blooms on Sept 23, 2020 17:55:36 GMT -6
👋 add me to the tally of kids with a runny nose having to get Covid tests. Last week was a freaking nightmare having to navigate 2 employers policies in addition to the daycare and school board. DD2 did develop a low grade fever and throw up water and was lethargic in addition to the runny nose and it was more than enough to exclude her from daycare. Myself and my H got tested too even though we were asymptomatic. It took us 3 days to get a test, I got my results in less than 24 hrs due (I suspect due to my occupation) DD in 3.5 days and DH became lax at checking after 5 days of no results and finally got a negative on day 6.
My DD1 calls it the spicy toothpick after seeing us get our tests. 😂
I was obviously panicked like everyone else at the thought of shutting everything down over runny noses and had a conversation with my daycare director who is being very practical and not sending kids with only a clear runny nose home. Multiple symptoms yes she definitely will. Thank god for her being reasonable, I was panicking about DH losing his job due to having to stay home for the sniffles for the next 5 months.
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Post by Tlex on Sept 23, 2020 19:00:08 GMT -6
Also it hit me yesterday that i haven't had a conversation with a single person IRL other than MH or DS in over 6 months. This sucks. Really missing our dinner dates.
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Post by Tlex on Sept 23, 2020 19:03:56 GMT -6
So how ‘bout that throne speech eh?
Universal Childcare being used as bait again. I will need to see some serious explanation of how this will roll out before I buy it. I’ve had that waved in my face in 2004, 2011, and 2015.
My sons daycare in a not for profit, parent cooperative toddler program is $84/day. Yes, we are downtown which does make it more expensive than if we were in the suburbs but then I’d need to own a car so it’s a wash.
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Post by Tlex on Sept 23, 2020 19:04:55 GMT -6
Now that being said when Jagmeet talks universal childcare, I’m listening.
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Post by adelbert on Sept 24, 2020 1:37:52 GMT -6
So how ‘bout that throne speech eh? Universal Childcare being used as bait again. I will need to see some serious explanation of how this will roll out before I buy it. I’ve had that waved in my face in 2004, 2011, and 2015. My sons daycare in a not for profit, parent cooperative toddler program is $84/day. Yes, we are downtown which does make it more expensive than if we were in the suburbs but then I’d need to own a car so it’s a wash. I thought you had inexpensive childcare in Canada? 84 dollars a day seems so expensive. I promise I won't tell you what we pay for children over 1 here... Also I like to lurk your thread, I don't know why. I guess I think of it as Europe light 😉.
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Post by blurnette989 on Sept 24, 2020 3:29:20 GMT -6
adelbert I'm also here lurking europe light and was shocked at that price! I know things vary in the provinces, but wow! My favorite childcare policy in Portugal is that in the state system, no matter your income, your third kid is free for lunch, after school care and summer camp programs.
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Post by blurnette989 on Sept 24, 2020 3:29:57 GMT -6
Tlex and I really like jagmeet Singh a lot!
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Post by danib on Sept 24, 2020 4:59:34 GMT -6
So how ‘bout that throne speech eh? Universal Childcare being used as bait again. I will need to see some serious explanation of how this will roll out before I buy it. I’ve had that waved in my face in 2004, 2011, and 2015. My sons daycare in a not for profit, parent cooperative toddler program is $84/day. Yes, we are downtown which does make it more expensive than if we were in the suburbs but then I’d need to own a car so it’s a wash. I thought you had inexpensive childcare in Canada? 84 dollars a day seems so expensive. I promise I won't tell you what we pay for children over 1 here... Also I like to lurk your thread, I don't know why. I guess I think of it as Europe light 😉. It's area dependent. Where I live it can be anywhere from 30-50 a day depending what type of centre you are using and if they have a government grant to lower their rates. You can also get it subsidized if you're low income. But my area also has lower wages and the cost of everything else (gas, food, taxes, etc) are higher that many other areas so it's a trade-off really.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 5:35:35 GMT -6
I thought you had inexpensive childcare in Canada? 84 dollars a day seems so expensive. I promise I won't tell you what we pay for children over 1 here... Also I like to lurk your thread, I don't know why. I guess I think of it as Europe light 😉. It's area dependent. Where I live it can be anywhere from 30-50 a day depending what type of centre you are using and if they have a government grant to lower their rates. You can also get it subsidized if you're low income. But my area also has lower wages and the cost of everything else (gas, food, taxes, etc) are higher that many other areas so it's a trade-off really. We're not low income and we get subsidy (Toronto). Our daycare rate was $30 per day with subsidy based on income. It's $90 per day without.
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Post by August Blooms on Sept 24, 2020 6:01:11 GMT -6
With my luck they will totally bring in childcare since my youngest is starting JK next year. Tlex I’m not completely convinced it’s going to happen but it is desperately needed. For the spreadsheet I’m $65 a day for FT and $33 a day for before and after care for my DD1.
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Post by August Blooms on Sept 24, 2020 6:05:29 GMT -6
I’m kind of underwhelmed with the throne speech, it’s a continuation of existing promises and spending. I don’t think they could have done much more given the fact they are a minority government and the second wave is starting.
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