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Post by rubysue on Aug 5, 2020 12:30:31 GMT -6
Those seem like really long days for a kid that age with only 2-3 30 minute breaks. I wonder if they are expected to be online and engaged that whole time. Agreed and I have the same question. I chatted with our principal when I went to pick up a chromebook at the school this week and she said to do our best. That they’re asking a lot of not only the kids, but the parents too, and she knows everyone is literally just trying to survive right now. We’ll see.
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Post by thatgolfb on Aug 5, 2020 12:31:08 GMT -6
I just ordered a printer, iPad stand, Bluetooth keyboard, a rolling organizer cart thing, and a bunch of school supplies. This is costing a small fortune. LOL yep. I just ordered a desk so she doesn't have to sit at the dining table and a bulletin board/whiteboard combo. And we are getting a better computer. I got a cheap refurbished Chromebook in the spring with like... the slowest speed known to man. It is terrible and we all hate it, so we are upgrading. I already got a bunch of school supplies at Target, but I am probably still missing things. We don't start until end of August, so I have some time.
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Post by thatgolfb on Aug 5, 2020 12:31:33 GMT -6
It seems here in CA they are requiring teachers assigned to distance learning only to teach from a classroom (I.e. no work from home). I think this is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard and I can’t believe it. This makes absolutely no sense.
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Post by kayc on Aug 5, 2020 12:31:35 GMT -6
I guess I'm in the minority but I feel our school district has been planning all summer and has their shit together. I already have a 38 page document that covers re-opening and in person and virtual learning details. Schedules, protocols, student services, specials, etc. are all covered. I've seen similar detailed plans at our district level. But the staff who have to implement those plans are totally in the dark. Yes! Our families received the document the same day as the teachers. We teachers have had zero training yet on how to implement the plan. We report back in a week and a half, kids 5 school days after that.
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Post by addymac on Aug 5, 2020 12:32:06 GMT -6
DD2’s preschool just sent a plan for remote if they have to go that route. Just...no. I’m not managing a virtual 1st and 2nd grade education along with virtual preschool. And I’m sure as shit not paying for it. Ugh. There’s zero chance I’d do it for preschool. The point of preschool is socializing, Yeah virtual preschool is nonsense. I’m glad DS’s preschool said if they have to switch to virtual - it’s currently scheduled to start as in person, half the class size split into two joining rooms- more space, less kids (they’re taking over the high school building to accommodate the needed space)- they will just put our tuition cost on hold so we will only pay for time spent in person and call it quits once we are sent home. And then resume when it’s safe for in person.
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Post by kayc on Aug 5, 2020 12:32:45 GMT -6
I've seen similar detailed plans at our district level. But the staff who have to implement those plans are totally in the dark. OK. I wasn't speaking about the staff. But if the staff doesn’t know how to implement it, what good is the plan?
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Post by thatgolfb on Aug 5, 2020 12:33:05 GMT -6
This might be the rebel in me but I also just feel like if I don’t like something or I can’t do it, I just won’t. A class meeting time doesn’t work for me and my kid can’t do it alone, we aren’t doing it. I mean, I’ll explain my way all the way up the chain if I have to, but come at me bros. We are living in an active pandemic and I’m trying to keep my job, my housing, and my families health and sanity in order. That’s my priority. I’ll try my best and forget the rest. My kid is in second grade. He’s not going to be thrown off track by one year of subpar education. I get this is my privilege talking. But I see a lot of this stuff and I’m like nah, I’m not doing that. This is us, too. We will do our best with what we are given, but I am very ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ if things don't get done. You are making the decision for us, don't be mad if we can't do what you are giving to us.
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Post by pobre on Aug 5, 2020 12:35:11 GMT -6
OK. I wasn't speaking about the staff. But if the staff doesn’t know how to implement it, what good is the plan? I'm sorry you are feeling overwhelmed. I spoke about how I felt my district was doing with regards to providing parents with details. I didn't say anything about the staff or how the teachers are being prepped, because I'm not a teacher and don't have any insight there.
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Post by kayc on Aug 5, 2020 12:41:28 GMT -6
But if the staff doesn’t know how to implement it, what good is the plan? I'm sorry you are feeling overwhelmed. I spoke about how I felt my district was doing with regards to providing parents with details. I didn't say anything about the staff or how the teachers are being prepped, because I'm not a teacher and don't have any insight there. I understand. It’s not about me feeling overwhelmed. It’s about the false sense of organization/security districts are sending out to families-I think it is important that families understand that many (not all, of course) teachers have not been told what the year will look like, nor have they been trained on new platforms and plans. So the school year will possibly start off rocky for some because of lack of communication between districts administrators and schools boards and teachers.
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AmyG
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Post by AmyG on Aug 5, 2020 12:41:43 GMT -6
The districts have been trying to come up with plans ever since March. Some districts are involving the teachers a lot in all of this, but some are not, since teachers don't have to participate if they aren't getting paid, it's kinda unfair to ask that the teachers were working all thru the summer to make online school plans. So overall, the teachers I know were not involved in the district or school level plans.
Some districts have all these big 30 page plans, that they've given the parents, and the teachers but if they haven't involved the teachers all along and had the teachers working(and paying them) thru the planning to work on the logistics if it will actually work, until the teachers go back to work, (about 2 weeks before school starts), anything the district has published is likely to go thru a LOT of changes, as teachers push back that what has been planned is unattainable.
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Post by STP on Aug 5, 2020 12:42:44 GMT -6
This might be the rebel in me but I also just feel like if I don’t like something or I can’t do it, I just won’t. A class meeting time doesn’t work for me and my kid can’t do it alone, we aren’t doing it. I mean, I’ll explain my way all the way up the chain if I have to, but come at me bros. We are living in an active pandemic and I’m trying to keep my job, my housing, and my families health and sanity in order. That’s my priority. I’ll try my best and forget the rest. My kid is in second grade. He’s not going to be thrown off track by one year of subpar education. I get this is my privilege talking. But I see a lot of this stuff and I’m like nah, I’m not doing that. This is us, too. We will do our best with what we are given, but I am very ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ if things don't get done. You are making the decision for us, don't be mad if we can't do what you are giving to us. This is what I don’t get. “Making the decision for us.” What else were they supposed to do? Of course they’re making the global district decisions. They can’t individualize it. They’re working with the entire community, and trying for the best of worst options.
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Post by pobre on Aug 5, 2020 12:42:46 GMT -6
LOL, yes. I'm sure most of us know the school year is going to start off rocky.
I have seen a LOT of districts that haven't offered much if any of their plan to the parents.
SORRY FOR MY ANECDOTE.
This fucking thread, man.
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kayc
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Post by kayc on Aug 5, 2020 12:44:19 GMT -6
LOL, yes. I'm sure most of us know the school year is going to start off rocky. I have seen a LOT of districts that haven't offered much if any of their plan to the parents. SORRY FOR MY ANECDOTE. This fucking thread, man. I’m not trying to push. I’m sorry, I misread the conversation.
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AmyG
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Post by AmyG on Aug 5, 2020 12:44:47 GMT -6
Today I saw an actual school bus unloading kids at the school down the road. I gasped
We are actual virtual only schooling statewide thru aug 17th, except special needs I believe.
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AmyG
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Post by AmyG on Aug 5, 2020 12:47:53 GMT -6
LOL, yes. I'm sure most of us know the school year is going to start off rocky. I have seen a LOT of districts that haven't offered much if any of their plan to the parents. SORRY FOR MY ANECDOTE. This fucking thread, man. Some districts have plans but aren't telling the parents until the teachers come back and they have their meetings to work thru the logistics. So parents don't freak out about the plan, and then the teachers go back, and then the plan changes again. Maybe the district/school thinks it's wishy washy to publish a plan that is bound to change when the teachers actually get to work thru the logistics of it all? Meanwhile parents are all begging for a look at the plan, so they know what to expect. It would have been nice if the teachers were brought back to start planning and implementation WITH PAY a month before school starts, instead of the normal 2 weeks? but of course there is no $ for that
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Post by Cher on Aug 5, 2020 12:51:14 GMT -6
It’s just hard for everyone. My kid’s preschool is going up to 4th grade and they’re going back 100% in the fall. They ran camp all summer and they have procedures down. Regular testing in-place for staff and students, a handbook of procedures ready to go, down to how to handle bathrooms and what masks were acceptable for what teachers. I had a call this morning with the director and I don’t have a single doubt about sending my kid(s) there because they had the opportunity to have their learning curve last month. The director mentioned that if Cuomo decides to veto what they’ve been doing on Friday, they’re going to be scrambling and relearning all over again, so while the unknowns are frustrating for parents, she said it’s just as hard for them. It’s just tough all around.
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Post by taconight on Aug 5, 2020 12:52:27 GMT -6
I wonder with distance learning if some people may qualify for leave with the FFCRA? I know it still wouldn't be ideal but would maybe help until *hopefully* schools open later in the fall. Eta: maybe not since school is in session and not "closed". But if school is your childcare while you are working and they can not physically take them.. idk all of this makes my head and heart hurt. Yes, if your child's school is closed, and you are doing distance learning, you should qualify for FFCRA leave, if your employer is subject to it. If you choose to do distance learning, but in-person is an option, you will not qualify. **This is the most recent guideline I've seen. These things do change, though.
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Post by doublestuf on Aug 5, 2020 12:53:39 GMT -6
I'm sorry you are feeling overwhelmed. I spoke about how I felt my district was doing with regards to providing parents with details. I didn't say anything about the staff or how the teachers are being prepped, because I'm not a teacher and don't have any insight there. I understand. It’s not about me feeling overwhelmed. It’s about the false sense of organization/security districts are sending out to families-I think it is important that families understand that many (not all, of course) teachers have not been told what the year will look like, nor have they been trained on new platforms and plans. So the school year will possibly start off rocky for some because of lack of communication between districts administrators and schools boards and teachers. This is what I was trying to convey with my overly-specific and long-winded initial post.
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Post by pobre on Aug 5, 2020 12:54:45 GMT -6
LOL, yes. I'm sure most of us know the school year is going to start off rocky. I have seen a LOT of districts that haven't offered much if any of their plan to the parents. SORRY FOR MY ANECDOTE. This fucking thread, man. Some districts have plans but aren't telling the parents until the teachers come back and they have their meetings to work thru the logistics. So parents don't freak out about the plan, and then the teachers go back, and then the plan changes again. Maybe the district/school thinks it's wishy washy to publish a plan that is bound to change when the teachers actually get to work thru the logistics of it all? Meanwhile parents are all begging for a look at the plan, so they know what to expect. It would have been nice if the teachers were brought back to start planning and implementation WITH PAY a month before school starts, instead of the normal 2 weeks? but of course there is no $ for that What would I do without you Amy?
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Post by doublestuf on Aug 5, 2020 13:01:27 GMT -6
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Post by canteverremember on Aug 5, 2020 13:04:29 GMT -6
Yes, thank you for reminding me that I should have included the required asterisk. **As always, nothing is 100% for everyone everywhere. Regardless, I do feel that what I said is more generally true than not. Most districts did not have their decision cemented in May or June so that teachers could prepare. Hell, some districts still haven't made the final call. The decision wasn’t cemented, I just know they were working with the teachers for different scenarios. And it’s been ongoing these months. I’m sorry to hear it that’s not more universal. This is how it has been in my district. They’re preparing for both and have been. Every single teacher in the district isn’t involved personally (surveys and what not) but there are many teachers in on the planning. The more experienced ones, special ed, the school psychologists, etc.
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Post by redbears on Aug 5, 2020 13:08:53 GMT -6
Cher is the school is doing testing on site? I have a lot of questions about how that actually plays out
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Post by AmyG on Aug 5, 2020 13:11:48 GMT -6
Some districts have plans but aren't telling the parents until the teachers come back and they have their meetings to work thru the logistics. So parents don't freak out about the plan, and then the teachers go back, and then the plan changes again. Maybe the district/school thinks it's wishy washy to publish a plan that is bound to change when the teachers actually get to work thru the logistics of it all? Meanwhile parents are all begging for a look at the plan, so they know what to expect. It would have been nice if the teachers were brought back to start planning and implementation WITH PAY a month before school starts, instead of the normal 2 weeks? but of course there is no $ for that What would I do without you Amy? wtf it's a conversation. I'm not the only one with this kind of opinion/info. Shouldn't have quoted you because inevitably you'd turn it into some kind of dig
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Post by STP on Aug 5, 2020 13:13:05 GMT -6
I'm sorry you are feeling overwhelmed. I spoke about how I felt my district was doing with regards to providing parents with details. I didn't say anything about the staff or how the teachers are being prepped, because I'm not a teacher and don't have any insight there. I understand. It’s not about me feeling overwhelmed. It’s about the false sense of organization/security districts are sending out to families-I think it is important that families understand that many (not all, of course) teachers have not been told what the year will look like, nor have they been trained on new platforms and plans. So the school year will possibly start off rocky for some because of lack of communication between districts administrators and schools boards and teachers. At the same time, what are our options? Most of us will need to rely on our districts. Sure, have reasonable expectations and communicate that it will be an adjustment, but what is the value in bringing the parents into the sausage being made in all regards? I feel that would lead to more confusion, frustration, questioning, etc. Would it really be better to say "we have no idea, God help us all?" Better to believe things will ultimately be ok, the district and teachers are in step, and a plan is in place.
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Post by thatgolfb on Aug 5, 2020 13:16:14 GMT -6
This is us, too. We will do our best with what we are given, but I am very ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ if things don't get done. You are making the decision for us, don't be mad if we can't do what you are giving to us. This is what I don’t get. “Making the decision for us.” What else were they supposed to do? Of course they’re making the global district decisions. They can’t individualize it. They’re working with the entire community, and trying for the best of worst options. I didn't say that they were supposed to do anything else, and I am sorry if my post somehow came across like they were. Of course they had to make a decision. But if the plan they come up with doesn't work with our lives, as much as we try, what am I supposed to do? They did their best. I will do my best.
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Post by thatgolfb on Aug 5, 2020 13:17:51 GMT -6
I mean, I am just venting here. I know things aren't ideal, and I don't expect perfection. If my posts are coming across like I do, then I apologize. Some of the scenarios are going to be nearly impossible for us to implement, so I am just complaining about the impact on my personal situation.
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Post by thatgolfb on Aug 5, 2020 13:18:52 GMT -6
We (ETA: my that I mean our district has given us zero information so far) don't have any plans yet, other than we will be in virtual school. I can make all the plans I want to, doesn't mean any of them will work. I am a planner. I plan things way ahead of time. I can't plan for this as much as I try. Oh well.
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Post by Cher on Aug 5, 2020 13:19:51 GMT -6
Cher is the school is doing testing on site? I have a lot of questions about how that actually plays out Yes. It’s a private school and they hired a company to be on-site for this. All teachers and staff are tested regularly. Kids are tested For reason, if they join the school later in the year, travel, they’re out for an extended period, etc.
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kayc
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Post by kayc on Aug 5, 2020 13:20:34 GMT -6
I understand. It’s not about me feeling overwhelmed. It’s about the false sense of organization/security districts are sending out to families-I think it is important that families understand that many (not all, of course) teachers have not been told what the year will look like, nor have they been trained on new platforms and plans. So the school year will possibly start off rocky for some because of lack of communication between districts administrators and schools boards and teachers. At the same time, what are our options? Most of us will need to rely on our districts. Sure, have reasonable expectations and communicate that it will be an adjustment, but what is the value in bringing the parents into the sausage being made in all regards? I feel that would lead to more confusion, frustration, questioning, etc. Would it really be better to say "we have no idea, God help us all?" Better to believe things will ultimately be ok, the district and teachers are in step, and a plan is in place. I agree that the districts need to communicate the plans clearly and early with families so they can plan. I just wish in all districts (bc I know some are doing a great job), that teachers knew HOW to implement the plans. Does that make sense?
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Post by gussie on Aug 5, 2020 13:22:56 GMT -6
DD2’s preschool just sent a plan for remote if they have to go that route. Just...no. I’m not managing a virtual 1st and 2nd grade education along with virtual preschool. And I’m sure as shit not paying for it. Ugh. There’s zero chance I’d do it for preschool. The point of preschool is socializing, Right, I’ll just let her watch some extra YouTube kids videos on the ABCs.
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