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Post by snowyowl on Apr 8, 2021 20:00:59 GMT -6
I’m so sorry, cmb, thinking of you and the family. Glad to hear your grandmother is doing well ❤️
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Post by klw on Apr 9, 2021 6:13:08 GMT -6
cmb I am happy to hear that your grandmother is doing well. Sending prayers for your grandfather though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 10:50:51 GMT -6
I just saw SUNY schools won’t require vaccines. I guess I’m not surprised but so many SUNY schools had outbreaks this fall that I’m not sure I agree with it.
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Post by wedding on Apr 9, 2021 14:28:14 GMT -6
I heard Brown is likely requiring vaccines for students next year.
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Post by jewels on Apr 9, 2021 14:33:46 GMT -6
Rutgers is. At least to live on campus. Not sure about commuters.
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Post by cmb on Apr 9, 2021 14:56:52 GMT -6
I just saw SUNY schools won’t require vaccines. I guess I’m not surprised but so many SUNY schools had outbreaks this fall that I’m not sure I agree with it. I was thinking about this, and I don’t know if they can as a state institution. It might be they have to follow the state mandated vaccines. This will be mandated once it has full approval and isn’t under EUA. Maybe not in 2021, but it will be. NY did away with non-medical exemptions, so they’ll also have to make sure supply is there. The EUA is the hang up on mandates at a state level.
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Post by cmb on Apr 9, 2021 17:17:34 GMT -6
Y’all have been so great with everything going on, thank you!
We found out today that covid itself is not what landed my grandfather in the ICU. His tests showed he was recovering... he went into diabetes caused shock from his sugar levels and had a massive heart attack upon arrival at the hospital, but no one told us until today, 2 days later. He is not stable enough for them to do a MRI or any of those types of tests. It was just a perfect storm of things happening at the same time 😪
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Post by cmb on Apr 11, 2021 15:29:44 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 17:08:33 GMT -6
cmb I read through the highlights and I did think it sounded like a lot but I think it’s the only way they are going to get more kids back in the building. I doubt our district will do anything different really. They e already had everyone back all year with the 6 foot requirement. The only thing I could possibly see is busses but since everyone has been back all year I don’t think so
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Post by Cher on Apr 11, 2021 17:30:00 GMT -6
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Post by cnf on Apr 11, 2021 18:38:03 GMT -6
The email from our superintendent said that the CDC determined barriers to not be effective for school settings. Our district had just ordered some so they could bring all the kids back and then immediately terminated the order after the Friday guidance change. I would think you could do away with them after the new change. They are at least able to bring back the elementary grades at the new 3' distance guidance, but our infection rate in our county is jumping up so they can no longer bring back 7-12 like they had planned. I though if a school had a certain level of filtration that they didn't need barriers. But none of the schools in my district (work and personal) have good enough filtration for that to be a consideration anyways, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about in ragrda to it.
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Post by Cher on Apr 11, 2021 18:55:58 GMT -6
The email from our superintendent said that the CDC determined barriers to not be effective for school settings. Our district had just ordered some so they could bring all the kids back and then immediately terminated the order after the Friday guidance change. I would think you could do away with them after the new change. They are at least able to bring back the elementary grades at the new 3' distance guidance, but our infection rate in our county is jumping up so they can no longer bring back 7-12 like they had planned. I though if a school had a certain level of filtration that they didn't need barriers. But none of the schools in my district (work and personal) have good enough filtration for that to be a consideration anyways, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about in ragrda to it. Yes! Apparently our filtration system is good for something because it looks like we can get rid of the barriers. I'm curious about the other perimeters. Hopefully we will hear more this week. We're hoping to bring back the high school within the month. That sucks about your area. At least your kids are back in. I know how tough it has been.
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Post by cnf on Apr 11, 2021 19:06:47 GMT -6
The email from our superintendent said that the CDC determined barriers to not be effective for school settings. Our district had just ordered some so they could bring all the kids back and then immediately terminated the order after the Friday guidance change. I would think you could do away with them after the new change. They are at least able to bring back the elementary grades at the new 3' distance guidance, but our infection rate in our county is jumping up so they can no longer bring back 7-12 like they had planned. I though if a school had a certain level of filtration that they didn't need barriers. But none of the schools in my district (work and personal) have good enough filtration for that to be a consideration anyways, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about in ragrda to it. Yes! Apparently our filtration system is good for something because it looks like we can get rid of the barriers. I'm curious about the other perimeters. Hopefully we will hear more this week. We're hoping to bring back the high school within the month. That sucks about your area. At least your kids are back in. I know how tough it has been. Yay for no barriers! I definitely want to hear more too. I'm happy my kiddo can start five days a week. They start back up next week and she's beside herself with excitement. As for my job, I have mixed feelings. I teach middle school and our kids can't come back yet because our transmission rate is too high. I feel sad for our kids, I want them back and they want to be back. And hybrid teaching fucking blows. But at the same time, doubling the number of kids in the building overnight with only ten weeks left will be incredibly stressful and difficult. And we'd still be hybrid teaching with the small subset of kids who stay remote. So that wouldn't change this year no matter what. It's such a loaded decision. I just feel so sad for our kids all over the country. They've been handed such a short end of the stick and have suffered a lot. I just want them happy.
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Post by Cher on Apr 11, 2021 19:09:21 GMT -6
Yes! Apparently our filtration system is good for something because it looks like we can get rid of the barriers. I'm curious about the other perimeters. Hopefully we will hear more this week. We're hoping to bring back the high school within the month. That sucks about your area. At least your kids are back in. I know how tough it has been. Yay for no barriers! I definitely want to hear more too. I'm happy my kiddo can start five days a week. They start back up next week and she's beside herself with excitement. As for my job, I have mixed feelings. I teach middle school and our kids can't come back yet because our transmission rate is too high. I feel sad for our kids, I want them back and they want to be back. And hybrid teaching fucking blows. But at the same time, doubling the number of kids in the building overnight with only ten weeks left will be incredibly stressful and difficult. And we'd still be hybrid teaching with the small subset of kids who stay remote. So that wouldn't change this year no matter what. It's such a loaded decision. I just feel so sad for our kids all over the country. They've been handed such a short end of the stick and have suffered a lot. I just want them happy. I get it. It blows my mind how resilient they are. I think, if nothing else, things will be somewhat close to normal in the fall for them and hopefully they will rebound quickly. Its so much change for them at once. But hopefully we're on the road to recovery and this will all be a memory for them soon.
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Post by cmb on Apr 12, 2021 6:22:20 GMT -6
Counties can force mandatory screening tests. If you can’t eat in your cafeteria with every child 6’ apart, your classrooms have to stay 6’. Mask breaks will go away for those at 3’ distance, so better hope the weather doesn’t turn sour like it always does this time of year. The case rate in your community matters. If your percentage positive places you in a different category than the per 100k rate, you go with whatever category is more restrictive. As soon as you switch categories, you need to be prepared to pivot back to where you are now with 6’ distancing Your community must have input and approve. For everything parent wanting the 3’ of distance, there is another who wants to stay at 6’. Increase in people in the room means more risk of quarantines, especially in counties quarantining whole rooms.
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Post by Cher on Apr 12, 2021 10:01:06 GMT -6
Counties can force mandatory screening tests. If you can’t eat in your cafeteria with every child 6’ apart, your classrooms have to stay 6’. Mask breaks will go away for those at 3’ distance, so better hope the weather doesn’t turn sour like it always does this time of year. The case rate in your community matters. If your percentage positive places you in a different category than the per 100k rate, you go with whatever category is more restrictive. As soon as you switch categories, you need to be prepared to pivot back to where you are now with 6’ distancing Your community must have input and approve. For everything parent wanting the 3’ of distance, there is another who wants to stay at 6’. Increase in people in the room means more risk of quarantines, especially in counties quarantining whole rooms. Thanks. I don’t know that would change much for us. What kind of screening? Different than the testing we have now? We have the space in the cafeteria. Kids typically do mask breaks in the gym, so I’m not sure if that would change for us or weather would affect us. I think my kids school might be a little different. We haven’t had a positive in school since Feb. we haven’t had a positive in school that required quarantine since before Thanksgiving. So most parents are really pushing to restore normalcy as much as possible for the kids because the strict rules have been working. We only have one kid who is still remote and she’s returning this week. I think the only thing that would actually change is they would remove the barriers, most parents don’t like them so I don’t foresee too much pushback. I’m interested in the mandatory testing, it was hard to get everyone to sign on for random weekly Covid testing.
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Post by cmb on Apr 12, 2021 14:43:04 GMT -6
Counties can force mandatory screening tests. If you can’t eat in your cafeteria with every child 6’ apart, your classrooms have to stay 6’. Mask breaks will go away for those at 3’ distance, so better hope the weather doesn’t turn sour like it always does this time of year. The case rate in your community matters. If your percentage positive places you in a different category than the per 100k rate, you go with whatever category is more restrictive. As soon as you switch categories, you need to be prepared to pivot back to where you are now with 6’ distancing Your community must have input and approve. For everything parent wanting the 3’ of distance, there is another who wants to stay at 6’. Increase in people in the room means more risk of quarantines, especially in counties quarantining whole rooms. Thanks. I don’t know that would change much for us. What kind of screening? Different than the testing we have now? We have the space in the cafeteria. Kids typically do mask breaks in the gym, so I’m not sure if that would change for us or weather would affect us. I think my kids school might be a little different. We haven’t had a positive in school since Feb. we haven’t had a positive in school that required quarantine since before Thanksgiving. So most parents are really pushing to restore normalcy as much as possible for the kids because the strict rules have been working. We only have one kid who is still remote and she’s returning this week. I think the only thing that would actually change is they would remove the barriers, most parents don’t like them so I don’t foresee too much pushback. I’m interested in the mandatory testing, it was hard to get everyone to sign on for random weekly Covid testing. The rapid testing in the schools is what I meant. The schools can always bar those kids who’s parents won’t consent 🤷🏼♀️ Most schools aren’t continuously doing this type of testing at the moment. Reduction to 3’ isn’t happening in my kid’s school and probably not in the district. Our elementary school hits the max per grade allowed by the state and additional students are sent to other schools in the district. The cafeteria is closed until next year due to the fire, so meals can’t move there (currently in the classroom).
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Post by cmb on Apr 12, 2021 14:45:41 GMT -6
Cuomo is funneling vaccines to colleges/universities and our county is taking most of their pfizer for this week and focusing on pods for the eligible high school kids. 🙌🏻 A large chunk of our current case load is 16-25, so let’s get this curve slowing show on the road.
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Post by redbears on Apr 12, 2021 14:57:24 GMT -6
I have my vax appointment tomorrow morning. Pfizer. I didn't think I'd feel emotional about it, yet here I am, going over the last year in my head and thinking how far we've come and also still in disbelief that this actually happened.
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Post by Cher on Apr 12, 2021 15:11:26 GMT -6
Thanks. I don’t know that would change much for us. What kind of screening? Different than the testing we have now? We have the space in the cafeteria. Kids typically do mask breaks in the gym, so I’m not sure if that would change for us or weather would affect us. I think my kids school might be a little different. We haven’t had a positive in school since Feb. we haven’t had a positive in school that required quarantine since before Thanksgiving. So most parents are really pushing to restore normalcy as much as possible for the kids because the strict rules have been working. We only have one kid who is still remote and she’s returning this week. I think the only thing that would actually change is they would remove the barriers, most parents don’t like them so I don’t foresee too much pushback. I’m interested in the mandatory testing, it was hard to get everyone to sign on for random weekly Covid testing. The rapid testing in the schools is what I meant. The schools can always bar those kids who’s parents won’t consent 🤷🏼♀️ Most schools aren’t continuously doing this type of testing at the moment. Reduction to 3’ isn’t happening in my kid’s school and probably not in the district. Our elementary school hits the max per grade allowed by the state and additional students are sent to other schools in the district. The cafeteria is closed until next year due to the fire, so meals can’t move there (currently in the classroom). Oh, yeah we have had rapid testing since the fall when Cuomo said schools needed it to stay open if their numbers rise. There was a directive issued earlier this year that said you can't bar kids who's parents won't consent. Did that change? It was a point of contention at our school, so its been brought up a few times. Ideally, it would be great if it was. But, from a legal standpoint, nightmare. Kids are funny. My kids have already both been tested at their schools. They cared zero. Last week, one kid had to get tested because he was randomly picked. The whole bus ended up getting tested because they wanted it too. The pushback has been from the parents, not the kids. Kids are so go with the flow. Its definitely a district-by-district call. We have the space, the gym, the cafeteria. We just need to get rid of the barriers and everyone seems to hate them. But if you're already maxed out with no cafeteria, there's no way it can work.
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Post by kmkd on Apr 12, 2021 15:53:41 GMT -6
Thanks. I don’t know that would change much for us. What kind of screening? Different than the testing we have now? We have the space in the cafeteria. Kids typically do mask breaks in the gym, so I’m not sure if that would change for us or weather would affect us. I think my kids school might be a little different. We haven’t had a positive in school since Feb. we haven’t had a positive in school that required quarantine since before Thanksgiving. So most parents are really pushing to restore normalcy as much as possible for the kids because the strict rules have been working. We only have one kid who is still remote and she’s returning this week. I think the only thing that would actually change is they would remove the barriers, most parents don’t like them so I don’t foresee too much pushback. I’m interested in the mandatory testing, it was hard to get everyone to sign on for random weekly Covid testing. The rapid testing in the schools is what I meant. The schools can always bar those kids who’s parents won’t consent 🤷🏼♀️ Most schools aren’t continuously doing this type of testing at the moment. Reduction to 3’ isn’t happening in my kid’s school and probably not in the district. Our elementary school hits the max per grade allowed by the state and additional students are sent to other schools in the district. The cafeteria is closed until next year due to the fire, so meals can’t move there (currently in the classroom). So you’re saying if I don’t consent to having my kid tested in school, he can be forced out?
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Post by cmb on Apr 12, 2021 15:57:40 GMT -6
The rapid testing in the schools is what I meant. The schools can always bar those kids who’s parents won’t consent 🤷🏼♀️ Most schools aren’t continuously doing this type of testing at the moment. Reduction to 3’ isn’t happening in my kid’s school and probably not in the district. Our elementary school hits the max per grade allowed by the state and additional students are sent to other schools in the district. The cafeteria is closed until next year due to the fire, so meals can’t move there (currently in the classroom). Oh, yeah we have had rapid testing since the fall when Cuomo said schools needed it to stay open if their numbers rise. There was a directive issued earlier this year that said you can't bar kids who's parents won't consent. Did that change? It was a point of contention at our school, so its been brought up a few times. Ideally, it would be great if it was. But, from a legal standpoint, nightmare. Kids are funny. My kids have already both been tested at their schools. They cared zero. Last week, one kid had to get tested because he was randomly picked. The whole bus ended up getting tested because they wanted it too. The pushback has been from the parents, not the kids. Kids are so go with the flow. Its definitely a district-by-district call. We have the space, the gym, the cafeteria. We just need to get rid of the barriers and everyone seems to hate them. But if you're already maxed out with no cafeteria, there's no way it can work. That directive did not come from us. The schools, after talking to their lawyers and such, can decide that, if a parent doesn’t consent to the random testing, that student may not attend in person and be forced remote. They cannot force the tests on children without consent.
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Post by cmb on Apr 12, 2021 15:59:05 GMT -6
The rapid testing in the schools is what I meant. The schools can always bar those kids who’s parents won’t consent 🤷🏼♀️ Most schools aren’t continuously doing this type of testing at the moment. Reduction to 3’ isn’t happening in my kid’s school and probably not in the district. Our elementary school hits the max per grade allowed by the state and additional students are sent to other schools in the district. The cafeteria is closed until next year due to the fire, so meals can’t move there (currently in the classroom). So you’re saying if I don’t consent to having my kid tested in school, he can be forced out? If your school goes that route, you can be placed in remote only due to not consenting. The schools have to talk to their lawyers about it. We don’t dictate either way, just that they are able to do so. Only thing we dictate is testing must come with consent.
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Post by Cher on Apr 12, 2021 16:05:47 GMT -6
Oh, yeah we have had rapid testing since the fall when Cuomo said schools needed it to stay open if their numbers rise. There was a directive issued earlier this year that said you can't bar kids who's parents won't consent. Did that change? It was a point of contention at our school, so its been brought up a few times. Ideally, it would be great if it was. But, from a legal standpoint, nightmare. Kids are funny. My kids have already both been tested at their schools. They cared zero. Last week, one kid had to get tested because he was randomly picked. The whole bus ended up getting tested because they wanted it too. The pushback has been from the parents, not the kids. Kids are so go with the flow. Its definitely a district-by-district call. We have the space, the gym, the cafeteria. We just need to get rid of the barriers and everyone seems to hate them. But if you're already maxed out with no cafeteria, there's no way it can work. That directive did not come from us. The schools, after talking to their lawyers and such, can decide that, if a parent doesn’t consent to the random testing, that student may not attend in person and be forced remote. They cannot force the tests on children without consent. Yeah, I forget where the directive came from. Somewhere in the state. Then it was reversed, then reversed again, it was a huge back and forth. I’m curious if any school has actually tried to force a child to go to remote. A district has an obligation to educate a child. Making a medical test on a minor without a parent present a condition of education is a legal nightmare. I would be shocked if any district actually tried it. We got the necessary number at our district but parents absolutely opted out. I think once our district hit the minimum they kept it pushing.
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Post by fancynewbeesly on Apr 12, 2021 16:10:16 GMT -6
Right now in NJ our district everyone is in four 4 1/2 days. Friday is all virtual. It seems like a lot of the parents polled would rather do four full days and have Friday virtual. (Including myself. Friday is the day that DD, who is virtual gets the most out of it. She can see and interact with her entire class. Not just the virtual kids)
However lunch is a HUGE issue. Some schools would probably be able to do lunch. They are small enough and have room in the cafeteria. Ours like DDs are massive and there is no room in the cafeteria (even though we have two cafeterias). They just couldn’t be six feet apart. And if they eat in the classroom when does the teacher get their lunch.
So they are looking at 5 half days now. Not sure when it would start. But it is for all grade levels not just elementary.
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Post by Cher on Apr 12, 2021 16:22:00 GMT -6
I have my vax appointment tomorrow morning. Pfizer. I didn't think I'd feel emotional about it, yet here I am, going over the last year in my head and thinking how far we've come and also still in disbelief that this actually happened. Yay! Are you going to Javits? You can tell me to mind my business. I volunteered today and we had 600 no-shows. 600. All NYErs, make your appointments!
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Post by piratecat on Apr 12, 2021 16:25:54 GMT -6
I have my vax appointment tomorrow morning. Pfizer. I didn't think I'd feel emotional about it, yet here I am, going over the last year in my head and thinking how far we've come and also still in disbelief that this actually happened. Yay! Are you going to Javits? You can tell me to mind my business. I volunteered today and we had 600 no-shows. 600. All NYErs, make your appointments! I got mine at Walmart today and when I thanked the woman who checked me in she thanked me for showing up. She said there have been so many no-shows, which is really too bad because there are plenty of people having trouble finding appointments and the Walmart spots are gone as soon as they come up at midnight.
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Post by cmb on Apr 12, 2021 16:26:59 GMT -6
That directive did not come from us. The schools, after talking to their lawyers and such, can decide that, if a parent doesn’t consent to the random testing, that student may not attend in person and be forced remote. They cannot force the tests on children without consent. Yeah, I forget where the directive came from. Somewhere in the state. Then it was reversed, then reversed again, it was a huge back and forth. I’m curious if any school has actually tried to force a child to go to remote. A district has an obligation to educate a child. Making a medical test on a minor without a parent present a condition of education is a legal nightmare. I would be shocked if any district actually tried it. We got the necessary number at our district but parents absolutely opted out. I think once our district hit the minimum they kept it pushing. There were some that did, actually. I do not know what the final result of it was after parents pushed back on it. The district has to provide education to children. It does not have to be in person instruction.
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Post by cmb on Apr 12, 2021 16:35:46 GMT -6
I have my vax appointment tomorrow morning. Pfizer. I didn't think I'd feel emotional about it, yet here I am, going over the last year in my head and thinking how far we've come and also still in disbelief that this actually happened. Yay! Are you going to Javits? You can tell me to mind my business. I volunteered today and we had 600 no-shows. 600. All NYErs, make your appointments! 600 😳😳 Both state sites near me dropped appointments today and there were over 1k at the fema one for later this week alone. Plenty at suny for later this month. Word will get out, and they will get taken at some point, but usually they go within seconds. Even last week, it was hunger games trying to get someone an appointment for later this month. He went back on today and was able to get one for Thursday 🤦🏼♀️
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Post by redbears on Apr 12, 2021 16:42:05 GMT -6
I have my vax appointment tomorrow morning. Pfizer. I didn't think I'd feel emotional about it, yet here I am, going over the last year in my head and thinking how far we've come and also still in disbelief that this actually happened. Yay! Are you going to Javits? You can tell me to mind my business. I volunteered today and we had 600 no-shows. 600. All NYErs, make your appointments! 600 no shows?? Damn. I wonder if people made an appointment then found a sooner one and never canceled. I'm going to the Aquaduct Racetrack in Queens. Were you guys able to take walk ins or advertise that you have extra shots?
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