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Post by angelashly on Jul 27, 2020 9:12:29 GMT -6
This is obvious right? He’s a prince. How many women out there would marry him just for a title, for fame, for money? He’s not just some random 30 year old. (Disclaimer because this place: I am not saying this is what Meghan did. But there are a lot of people who would. It’s why Anna Nicole married some ancient man.) But he's not an idiot? He's not under consevatorship? He's a man who wanted a fsmily? has no chance at (nor wants) the throne? The stretching to make a year (and change!) Seem like will was justified in trying to keep her out due to "rushing" is quite something. Not just by here, by everywhere. Harry had several long term relationships that didn't work out either.
It is almost like siblings are not the same person
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Post by richard on Jul 27, 2020 9:12:29 GMT -6
Mary shared some photos of their summer holiday Hello Mary's husband whose name I don't remember.
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Post by Eagles on Jul 27, 2020 9:14:13 GMT -6
Sometimes the whole thing makes me sad. Meghan gave up her life to move across the ocean and if W&K were as tight with Harry as they seemed to be, it would have been wonderful if they welcomed her in and made her feel at home. I look at how the cousins all seem to be close (Zara, Eugenie, etc.) and Archie won't have that with his cousins.
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Post by jaidit on Jul 27, 2020 9:14:54 GMT -6
I find the book unnecessary. Like, we all know that Meghan and harry were treated unfairly. We all know harry didn’t like the royal life. I get wanting people to hear your side of it, but to me their side was kind of obvious? I don’t think it’s going to advance their goals of being philanthropists, I kind of wish they made their statement in leaving and left it at that. And went on to do they work they’re doing. But why should they have to slink away? That just reinforces all the bias and the power structure as-is. I wouldn’t have seen it as slinking away. I just think it would have made a more impactful statement to be shining without the BRF (this is with me assuming they wanted out from the beginning).
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Post by Bookshelves on Jul 27, 2020 9:15:12 GMT -6
Mary shared some photos of their summer holiday Hello Mary's husband whose name I don't remember. that was also my takeaway here
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Post by jaidit on Jul 27, 2020 9:16:24 GMT -6
Also I think these tell all type books are never taken seriously and never end well.
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Post by icedcoffee on Jul 27, 2020 9:26:53 GMT -6
I dont dislike Will and Kate but for them to think they are some relationship goal or Harry should strive for what they had/have is kind of funny to me. They have their past--Kate was known to have wanted and planned to be his wife from the get go. Will has also been outed as a cheater right? Not confirmed but highly likely?
It just seems there's still a lot of bitterness towards Harry wanting and achieving a different life. Thats what it seems to me as an outsider at least
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Post by icedcoffee on Jul 27, 2020 9:38:53 GMT -6
It just comes off very, I married someone who was a known title chaser but its okay because she's British and white, to me 🤷♀️
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Post by jaidit on Jul 27, 2020 9:39:22 GMT -6
I dont dislike Will and Kate but for them to think they are some relationship goal or Harry should strive for what they had/have is kind of funny to me. They have their past--Kate was known to have wanted and planned to be his wife from the get go. Will has also been outed as a cheater right? Not confirmed but highly likely? It just seems there's still a lot of bitterness towards Harry wanting and achieving a different life. Thats what it seems to me as an outsider at least Confirmed for me.
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Post by coffeecake on Jul 27, 2020 11:32:25 GMT -6
I dont dislike Will and Kate but for them to think they are some relationship goal or Harry should strive for what they had/have is kind of funny to me. They have their past--Kate was known to have wanted and planned to be his wife from the get go. Will has also been outed as a cheater right? Not confirmed but highly likely? It just seems there's still a lot of bitterness towards Harry wanting and achieving a different life. Thats what it seems to me as an outsider at least I agree and I think it’s hypocritical of Will to be trying to tell Harry what to do, if that’s how it went down. Charles had pretty much no say in who he married and we all saw how that worked out. So Will was given much more freedom in choosing a wife. He got to do things his way. So for him to criticize Harry for doing things in his own way seems shitty. I 100% think it was because Megan is biracial, American, and an “outsider.”
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Post by pitchslap on Jul 27, 2020 12:09:09 GMT -6
I think it's funny that he's referred to as Mary's BIL when she married into the royal family and he is a prince but if you said "Prince Joachim" everyone would have been like "who"? And his family is beautiful.
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Post by ouijabored on Jul 27, 2020 12:29:38 GMT -6
I buy the story that the Cambridges and other relations were frosty. If nothing else, Harry could probably tell that they weren't as welcoming to Meghan as they had been to his earlier girlfriends such as Chelsy (who was photographed pretty often being chummy with Kate back in the days when they were both just dating the princes) or Cressida, who was known to be good friends with the York sisters prior to dating Harry. Both of them had noticeably warmer relationships with Harry's extended family. Whether and to what extent their perceived frostiness to Meghan had to do with their opinion that Harry was "rushing" things or with Meghan being a. a working actress and therefore some degree of attention seeking, b. American c. divorced, d. black, etc. is unknown. But I think common sense tells you that Meghan would have been her most charming self in the lead up to the wedding and that she would have wanted a warmer relationship with her future SIL, especially with one that shares her very unique role in the world. The fact that that didn't happen suggests to me that the ball was in the Cambridges' court for a long time and that they didn't want to play for whatever reason.
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Post by angelashly on Jul 27, 2020 13:26:28 GMT -6
I buy the story that the Cambridges and other relations were frosty. If nothing else, Harry could probably tell that they weren't as welcoming to Meghan as they had been to his earlier girlfriends such as Chelsy (who was photographed pretty often being chummy with Kate back in the days when they were both just dating the princes) or Cressida, who was known to be good friends with the York sisters prior to dating Harry. Both of them had noticeably warmer relationships with Harry's extended family. Whether and to what extent their perceived frostiness to Meghan had to do with their opinion that Harry was "rushing" things or with Meghan being a. a working actress and therefore some degree of attention seeking, b. American c. divorced, d. black, etc. is unknown. But I think common sense tells you that Meghan would have been her most charming self in the lead up to the wedding and that she would have wanted a warmer relationship with her future SIL, especially with one that shares her very unique role in the world. The fact that that didn't happen suggests to me that the ball was in the Cambridges' court for a long time and that they didn't want to play for whatever reason. Exactly especially since she left her family behind
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jul 27, 2020 16:16:28 GMT -6
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jul 27, 2020 16:16:50 GMT -6
That diamond wasn’t as huge as I pictured.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jul 27, 2020 16:24:55 GMT -6
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jul 27, 2020 16:26:38 GMT -6
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Post by snowyowl on Jul 27, 2020 18:53:46 GMT -6
That diamond wasn’t as huge as I pictured. Double standard I guess... if one of my friends got that ring I’d think it was pretty big. But I see the words “Lady” and “Princess Diana” and “huge” I’m expecting a small potato 😂
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Post by oliversbear on Jul 27, 2020 20:12:23 GMT -6
I do not understand the idea that Kate & Meghan had to be buddy-buddy BFFs. I like my sister-in-law. She's a lovely person and good for my brother, but I'm not BFFs with her. We've civil, polite and cordial, but we have never and probably will never hang out. Our lives are different. Heck, I even forgot to include her in my wedding photos with the rest of the family. It honestly wasn't deliberate.
Why should Kate & Meghan be any different? I know plenty of friends who like their sisters-in-law, but aren't especially welcoming or chummy with them. Maybe it would be nice if sisters-in-law were all chummy buddy-buddy BFFs, but regular families aren't like that, why should the Royal Family be?
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Post by frlcb on Jul 27, 2020 20:20:57 GMT -6
I do not understand the idea that Kate & Meghan had to be buddy-buddy BFFs. I like my sister-in-law. She's a lovely person and good for my brother, but I'm not BFFs with her. We've civil, polite and cordial, but we have never and probably will never hang out. Our lives are different. Heck, I even forgot to include her in my wedding photos with the rest of the family. It honestly wasn't deliberate. Why should Kate & Meghan be any different? I know plenty of friends who like their sisters-in-law, but aren't especially welcoming or chummy with them. Maybe it would be nice if sisters-in-law were all chummy buddy-buddy BFFs, but regular families aren't like that, why should the Royal Family be? I think it’s more that Meghan was coming into this unique position that very few people would understand, but Kate would. It’s definitely a different situation than a non royal sister in law situation.
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Post by oliversbear on Jul 27, 2020 20:35:30 GMT -6
I do not understand the idea that Kate & Meghan had to be buddy-buddy BFFs. I like my sister-in-law. She's a lovely person and good for my brother, but I'm not BFFs with her. We've civil, polite and cordial, but we have never and probably will never hang out. Our lives are different. Heck, I even forgot to include her in my wedding photos with the rest of the family. It honestly wasn't deliberate. Why should Kate & Meghan be any different? I know plenty of friends who like their sisters-in-law, but aren't especially welcoming or chummy with them. Maybe it would be nice if sisters-in-law were all chummy buddy-buddy BFFs, but regular families aren't like that, why should the Royal Family be? I think it’s more that Meghan was coming into this unique position that very few people would understand, but Kate would. It’s definitely a different situation than a non royal sister in law situation. I don't think it is. The unique position is more the job of being a member of the Royal Family. And in that position, there were people assigned to train Meghan as to what to do and expect. It's not Kate's job to train her. Being sisters-in-law, that's a family position. The issue comes in when the hats get confused. Training is part of the job, not part of the family. The Queen said that Harry & Meghan will always be part of the family, even if they are no longer employed by the Royal Family. Training is part of employment, not marriage. The fact that Kate and Meghan were employed in similar positions doesn't necessarily mean Kate has, or wants, to be a mentor to the new hire.
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Post by snowyowl on Jul 27, 2020 20:58:17 GMT -6
I do not understand the idea that Kate & Meghan had to be buddy-buddy BFFs. I like my sister-in-law. She's a lovely person and good for my brother, but I'm not BFFs with her. We've civil, polite and cordial, but we have never and probably will never hang out. Our lives are different. Heck, I even forgot to include her in my wedding photos with the rest of the family. It honestly wasn't deliberate. Why should Kate & Meghan be any different? I know plenty of friends who like their sisters-in-law, but aren't especially welcoming or chummy with them. Maybe it would be nice if sisters-in-law were all chummy buddy-buddy BFFs, but regular families aren't like that, why should the Royal Family be? I think it’s more that Meghan was coming into this unique position that very few people would understand, but Kate would. It’s definitely a different situation than a non royal sister in law situation. Obviously not trying to compare my life to entering the royal family... but H’s family situation can be rough in a very uptight “no one upsets mother and there are a LOT of unwritten rules” kinda way. I was first by a few years, and when SIL got with BIL it wasn’t too long before she turned to me and basically said, “so this is crazy, right?” We aren’t besties and probably wouldn’t have ever been close friends under normal circumstances (nothing wrong with SIL, we just have different interests). But I can imagine how much it would have sucked if I had just said “sorry, what are you talking about? This is how things are.” But instead I said, “YES. It’s crazy. So glad you are here.” And now we can text each other when things get rough. Though I married the rebellious Harry and she got mom-pleasing Will so I lucked out.
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Post by jorkzy on Jul 27, 2020 22:40:06 GMT -6
I think it’s more that Meghan was coming into this unique position that very few people would understand, but Kate would. It’s definitely a different situation than a non royal sister in law situation. I don't think it is. The unique position is more the job of being a member of the Royal Family. And in that position, there were people assigned to train Meghan as to what to do and expect. It's not Kate's job to train her. Being sisters-in-law, that's a family position. The issue comes in when the hats get confused. Training is part of the job, not part of the family. The Queen said that Harry & Meghan will always be part of the family, even if they are no longer employed by the Royal Family. Training is part of employment, not marriage. The fact that Kate and Meghan were employed in similar positions doesn't necessarily mean Kate has, or wants, to be a mentor to the new hire. That last sentence... 😬 But K and M are married to arguably the 2 most famous brothers in the royal world, if not the world period. There’s more of a relationship there than begrudgingly adding a new member to the establishment.
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Post by beesquared on Jul 28, 2020 0:10:51 GMT -6
I do not understand the idea that Kate & Meghan had to be buddy-buddy BFFs. I like my sister-in-law. She's a lovely person and good for my brother, but I'm not BFFs with her. We've civil, polite and cordial, but we have never and probably will never hang out. Our lives are different. Heck, I even forgot to include her in my wedding photos with the rest of the family. It honestly wasn't deliberate. Why should Kate & Meghan be any different? I know plenty of friends who like their sisters-in-law, but aren't especially welcoming or chummy with them. Maybe it would be nice if sisters-in-law were all chummy buddy-buddy BFFs, but regular families aren't like that, why should the Royal Family be? Did you live in the same house? No one is saying they had to be BFFs, but then shunned her and willfully gave her the cut direct at every opportunity. If nothing else, they should have presented a united front in public.
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Post by jaidit on Jul 28, 2020 3:58:56 GMT -6
Camilla's getting on the fashion mask bandwagon
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Post by maybe on Jul 28, 2020 6:18:37 GMT -6
I do not understand the idea that Kate & Meghan had to be buddy-buddy BFFs. I like my sister-in-law. She's a lovely person and good for my brother, but I'm not BFFs with her. We've civil, polite and cordial, but we have never and probably will never hang out. Our lives are different. Heck, I even forgot to include her in my wedding photos with the rest of the family. It honestly wasn't deliberate. Why should Kate & Meghan be any different? I know plenty of friends who like their sisters-in-law, but aren't especially welcoming or chummy with them. Maybe it would be nice if sisters-in-law were all chummy buddy-buddy BFFs, but regular families aren't like that, why should the Royal Family be? You likely don’t live in same palace or work together in the family business. It’s not a normal situation.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jul 28, 2020 6:27:00 GMT -6
Camilla's getting on the fashion mask bandwagon Camilla walked to work today from Clarence House to the National Gallery down a central London street Face with medical mask.
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