jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 14, 2020 21:50:13 GMT -6
Can someone fact check Pete on his support from black voters?
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Minerva
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Post by Minerva on Jan 14, 2020 21:50:44 GMT -6
Boom. That was an wonderfully direct question on lack of support from black voters to Pete.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 14, 2020 21:51:04 GMT -6
question about areas that have to be abandoned permanently due to climate change. Pete was v proud of himself for saying that he'd use federal funds to help people move out of those frequent-flood areas. Ah. Yeah no. For a lot of farmers, that little plot of land is their inheritance and their family legacy. They're not going to let it go so easily. My grandpa has farmland in Southern IL that is his from his parents. He has someone who rents it to farm from him (a cousin I think) and he does want to sell it, but he won't just leave it for anything. Absolutely. I'm sorry if your grandpa is in a situation where he has land that is becoming unfarmable, and that is his livelihood. That's a terrible eventuality. Just saying we will help "move" these people ignores many facets of the situation.
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Minerva
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Post by Minerva on Jan 14, 2020 21:51:15 GMT -6
A less direct answer by Pete, of course.
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Ls2012
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 21:53:02 GMT -6
Asking them individually about their personal hurdles to beating 45.
Buttigieg- how do you get and keep Black support? Blah blah blah, they'll get to know me and I'll fight for them (suddenly, for the first time ever).
Bernie- no one seems to want to vote for a Democratic socialist.
Steyer- how do you convince people you're more than your money?
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 14, 2020 21:53:43 GMT -6
Asking them individually about their personal hurdles to beating 45. Buttigieg- how do you get and keep Black support? Blah blah blah, they'll get to know me and I'll fight for them (suddenly, for the first time ever). Bernie- no one seems to want to vote for a Democratic socialist. Steyer- how do you convince people you're more than your money? Liz Amy what are you gonna do about those vaginas?
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Ls2012
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 21:54:32 GMT -6
Klobuchar- how do you inspire voters with pragmatism?
45 is a lying liar who lies and voters want truth.
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Sundae
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Post by Sundae on Jan 14, 2020 21:54:41 GMT -6
Asking them individually about their personal hurdles to beating 45. Buttigieg- how do you get and keep Black support? Blah blah blah, they'll get to know me and I'll fight for them (suddenly, for the first time ever). Bernie- no one seems to want to vote for a Democratic socialist. Steyer- how do you convince people you're more than your money? Liz Amy what are you gonna do about those vaginas? And the breasts that just get in the way. And the hysteria.
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Ls2012
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 21:55:18 GMT -6
Asking them individually about their personal hurdles to beating 45. Buttigieg- how do you get and keep Black support? Blah blah blah, they'll get to know me and I'll fight for them (suddenly, for the first time ever). Bernie- no one seems to want to vote for a Democratic socialist. Steyer- how do you convince people you're more than your money? Liz Amy what are you gonna do about those vaginas? I am surprised it wasn't centered on being a woman.
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roloma
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Post by roloma on Jan 14, 2020 21:55:28 GMT -6
Are Liz and Joe even still there? It’s been a hot minute.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 14, 2020 21:56:23 GMT -6
I don’t think Liz policies scare swing voters so much as the billionaire class
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Post by justbecause on Jan 14, 2020 21:56:58 GMT -6
Enough with the poker chips, Amy.
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Ls2012
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 21:57:09 GMT -6
Is Liz going to scare away voters with her policies?
Well, the system isn't working for the majority, so nope.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 14, 2020 21:58:07 GMT -6
Was there some mudslinging I missed tonight
Also that was clever of joe. I’ve been the object of his affection for a while
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Ls2012
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 21:58:37 GMT -6
Joe, are you prepared for 45's bullshit?
Nope. He's already at it and it's a distraction from the true economic debate.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 14, 2020 21:59:26 GMT -6
Ok This was the most useless boring debate so far.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 14, 2020 22:02:42 GMT -6
I think the next debate should be everyone BUT the leaders.
Let’s hear from John Delaney and Steve Bullock (he’s still running right?)
All the questions submitted by people whose ssn ends in 27 or were born during a full moon with Saturn as a rising planet on a Tuesday
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Ls2012
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 22:03:56 GMT -6
Ok This was the most useless boring debate so far. Agreed. Usually I can't post so much because I'm actually listening closely (my brain can't process it in real time that fast- mad props to our usual live-bloggers). This time, I'm tuning most of it out because we've already heard it 4x or more previously.
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roloma
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Post by roloma on Jan 14, 2020 22:04:06 GMT -6
I think the next debate should be everyone BUT the leaders. Let’s hear from John Delaney and Steve Bullock (he’s still running right?) All the questions submitted by people whose ssn ends in 27 or were born during a full moon with Saturn as a rising planet on a Tuesday My husband said the next debate should have everyone who has dropped out as the moderators, kind of like the Survivor jury. I would totally support that.
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Jan 14, 2020 22:04:15 GMT -6
LOL when have we EVER had a 5 page debate thread
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Ls2012
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 22:04:50 GMT -6
Closing remarks start with Amy.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 14, 2020 22:05:35 GMT -6
I think the next debate should be everyone BUT the leaders. Let’s hear from John Delaney and Steve Bullock (he’s still running right?) All the questions submitted by people whose ssn ends in 27 or were born during a full moon with Saturn as a rising planet on a Tuesday My husband said the next debate should have everyone who has dropped out as the moderators, kind of like the Survivor jury. I would totally support that. He’s now head of the DNC I support this idea
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Ls2012
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 22:05:56 GMT -6
I can't even focus anymore. I'm so bored.
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 22:08:04 GMT -6
Liz is waking me up, listing off all the important topics no one covered tonight.
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 22:11:47 GMT -6
Joe closes it up with a focus on this race being about the character of our country.
And now my dog is gassing me out of my living room, so I'm going to bed.
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roloma
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Post by roloma on Jan 14, 2020 22:12:01 GMT -6
This pains me a little but Bernie is doing well on his closing statement. I just wish he would stop flailing and yelling.
Liz always shines when she can talk without constraints of a specific question.
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Post by jaygee on Jan 14, 2020 22:16:58 GMT -6
This made me laugh:
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Ls2012
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 22:26:02 GMT -6
I had a low-bar hope that this debate would offer more clarity on which candidate I lean toward. It seems I tripped over the bar because I feel more dispassionate about all of them and uninspired. Maybe the Iowa caucus will fix that. I really don't know what will at this point.
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Ls2012
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 23:30:35 GMT -6
Hilarious and sad recap of tonight:
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elle
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Post by elle on Jan 14, 2020 23:53:01 GMT -6
Interesting take: what happens to the insurance jobs if health insurance is gone because of m4a? I've long wondered this; and it's part of why I think we need a decently long transition period at the very least.
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