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Post by flamingo on Jul 5, 2017 18:45:37 GMT -6
hangry re: speech, I'm going to look and see if I can find the copy of the 'sounds by age' chart that our speech therapist gave me and PM it to you. It was really helpful to me and you might find in useful in determining if you want to push and get an evaluation or just sit tight. B was a hot mess and had several issues going on (hearing loss, tongue tie, etc) which is why we pursued therapy so early (b/n 15-18 mo). Once we got him caught up and talking at an age-appropriate level (word count, sentence structure, etc), then we began focusing on articulation. He had some weird patterns for certain sounds that were not the norm; (for ex, he'd make a hard 'g' sound for F sounds, which is atypical (most kids will use p or d in place of F)). Things like that made it hard to understand him unless you knew the patterns--which most people didn't b/c they were not what kids normally substitute, if that makes sense? From talking to my sister (a pediatric SLP) and other moms, a lot of doctors take a more hands-off/wait-and-see approach...which sucks if there IS an issue that could have been corrected early. I will say that now that B speaks more clearly, he is much more sociable with his peers bc they can actually understand him and I think he's more confident in speaking. But if your guy's errors are very typical and age-appropriate, and aren't really affecting his ability to be understood, you might see natural changes in another 6 months or so. But if you feel that he is having a hard time being understood, etc, then maybe push for an evaluation.
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Post by hangry on Jul 5, 2017 18:54:43 GMT -6
I just don't get these no baby baby showers!? Your life is about to be one chaos. Embrace it. Kids are a part of life, and an important part of your friends' or family members' lives. Unless it's an x- rated or significant financial addition, let the kids come! tjanca22 I would respond something like it being normal for a lot of people to welcome kids to a baby shower. And that must be what co worker is assuming. I would also tell friend straight up that you were planning on bringing L because she's just a baby and assumed it wouldn't be a problem. If you wanted to be nice, you could say, but I'm glad you mentioned something! I would leave that last line out.
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Post by hangry on Jul 5, 2017 19:05:50 GMT -6
That was very helpful flamingo! I would love that sheet if you can find it. He has normal word count and sentence structure, so for that we're lucky. He seems to have the most difficulty with double consonant sounds. Like, instead of saying swing, he says fing. Off the top of my head, he also has trouble with th or thr or str or sc sounds. Since his check up I've been more conscious of trying to correct him and help him sound out the correct way. He has been receptive to this so far, just not sure if there is carry over yet.
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Post by Cheshie6 on Jul 5, 2017 19:09:27 GMT -6
Long day, bff was visiting yesterday into this morning. L is officially in separation anxiety mode! How long does this last. Tried to hit the gym, but got 20 minutes before the child watch people came and found me, no workout for me. I'm catching up now but will edit in a picture. PDQ
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Post by tjanca22 on Jul 5, 2017 19:12:33 GMT -6
My friend who's pregnant texted me saying she's annoyed that a coworker might have to bring her two kids to her baby shower next month because she isn't sure if she can find a sitter. Pregnant friend says she doesn't want the chaos of babies at the shower but doesn't want to be a bitch and flat out say she can't bring her kids.... 1. Don't want chaos because of a baby? Uh, good luck pushing out something that doesn't cause chaos 2. I really hope someone tells you that you can't bring your kid somewhere in the future and you see how it feels 3. Yes it's is kinda bitchy not letting your coworker bring her kids 4. I hope this isn't your way of telling me I can't bring my kids. WWN16 do? I wasn't planning to bring DS, but was kinda planning to bring L since she's still little and still nursing. Knowing the mom to be is annoyed by kids at the shower do I leave her home? There's no guarantee that H will be home to watch the kids, but I could have my parents as a backup. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You can judge because that's where my mind went too. Knowing her I think it's exactly what you said, that she's making sure I don't bring E or L. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by tjanca22 on Jul 5, 2017 19:18:42 GMT -6
tjanca22 So I'm the bitch that would bring L just because of her text. lol. Is it possible to reply back with something about how hard it is to find child care sometimes and since L is still nursing you were planning on bringing her? I'm the bitch who wants to bring L too just because of her text too!! We can be bitches together 😉. I think I'm going to text her saying my parents can watch the kids which means that my mom just can't make the shower. She's only hurting herself because now she's out a present from my mom who was also invited. ETA: I reread that and now I sound mean. I swear I'm not really this mean. Just my self-talk is mean, which most of the time you guys get to hear. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Cheshie6 on Jul 5, 2017 19:35:50 GMT -6
tjanca22, did the invitation say anything about kids? I think you may want to inform her that due to her lack of forethought, she may be stuck with some kids. It's also weird for her to say no to you but not her coworker. I'm that bitch who would be like, hey I can't go now because L's still nursing and you don't want kids. I'm also of the mindset a baby isn't a kid if that does help. I consider kids to be young humans who will be eating the food, trying to shake the presents, running around, etc. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Post by tjanca22 on Jul 5, 2017 20:19:02 GMT -6
tjanca22, did the invitation say anything about kids? I think you may want to inform her that due to her lack of forethought, she may be stuck with some kids. It's also weird for her to say no to you but not her coworker. I'm that bitch who would be like, hey I can't go now because L's still nursing and you don't want kids. I'm also of the mindset a baby isn't a kid if that does help. I consider kids to be young humans who will be eating the food, trying to shake the presents, running around, etc. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Invitation didn't say no kids allowed. I totally agree that kids and babies are a different story. I had H read our conversation and he just rolled his eyes and said that's typical for her personality but that I can just leave L home with him if he doesn't get mandated to work. Now I just need the backup plan and I'll go alone. I hope there's drinks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by vino on Jul 5, 2017 21:43:16 GMT -6
tjanca22 ugh this broad is too much, she doesn't want kids at her 'special precious all about me baby shower', then grow some damn balls and write it on the invite. All this passive agressive bull is more annoying than her wishes. I'm sorry you have to deal with that, maybe RSVP with 'sorry, I have to wash my hair that day, can't make it beotch'
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Post by aggiebug on Jul 6, 2017 4:35:52 GMT -6
Apparently an UO here? but I think not wanting kids/ babies at a baby shower is totally reasonable. Just because I have kids, love kids and welcome their chaos doesn't mean I would not enjoy or even want a nice adult affair. I am actually surprised that bringing your baby without first asking the host/ person of honor is ok. It's one thing if the kid is bitty bitty and really can't be away from mom (I would still ask before just bringing the kid), but even at 8 months I would make a bottle and hand him off to H. Hell when C was 3 months old I was trying to figure out a way to leave him to go to my Bffs shower which I had to fly to, our other bff and the host told me I had to bring both kids. I did because it was easier, and living so far away I knew they actually wanted to see my kids too, but that wasn't my original plan.
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Post by aggiebug on Jul 6, 2017 4:40:58 GMT -6
tjanca22 ugh this broad is too much, she doesn't want kids at her 'special precious all about me baby shower', then grow some damn balls and write it on the invite. All this passive agressive bull is more annoying than her wishes. I'm sorry you have to deal with that, maybe RSVP with 'sorry, I have to wash my hair that day, can't make it beotch' Do you really think kids are invited if the invitation just has your name on it? I am genuinely asking because I would never think to bring my kids unless it specifically said to on the invitation. ETA I would feel comfortable asking or at least mentioning I could only come if my infant could come, but once they are mobile only if they are invited.
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Post by danib on Jul 6, 2017 5:25:55 GMT -6
That sucks tjanca22. I agree it probably was her way of telling you "no kids". FWIW I would assume small kids/babies would be fine at a baby shower (I wouldn't assume for a different event, but baby shower yes).
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Post by waitwhat on Jul 6, 2017 5:41:28 GMT -6
Re: kids at showers.
I wouldn't bring them unless the invite stated. But I would only expect the invite to state my kids could come if they were age appropriate. I do not expect the invite to address a new baby, though. I feel that is an unwritten rule that they can come. They don't eat a meal, and they will just sort of sit there.
I personally don't see an issue with kids at baby showers and wouldn't side eye anyone bringing their kids. I would probably not bring J at this age only because a few kid free hours sounds heavenly. If he was itty bitty I would bring him and not even think twice.
I do however feel more comfortable bringing a baby to a baby shower versus a bridal shower. Maybe that is just me.
I feel like I contradicted myself but in my head this all makes sense.
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Post by tjanca22 on Jul 6, 2017 5:56:06 GMT -6
Thanks for the feedback guys. I guess I didn't think bringing L would be an issue. The shower is next month and while L can crawl around she isn't running around like a toddler and still nursing which is why I didn't even think twice about it.
What rubbed me the wrong was that it's my friend's way of saying she doesn't want to be the bitch and say no kids if her coworker can't find a babysitter. Its her sneaky way of telling me not to bring my kids when she knows H's job is unpredictable with a schedule. If you don't want kids the invite should say that.
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Post by waitwhat on Jul 6, 2017 5:58:59 GMT -6
tjanca22 I agree she was being a brat about the kids and that was her way of telling you not to bring yours. I don't see a problem with bringing L but I would probably feel uncomfortable now if I were in your shoes.
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Post by hangry on Jul 6, 2017 7:24:44 GMT -6
tjanca22 ugh this broad is too much, she doesn't want kids at her 'special precious all about me baby shower', then grow some damn balls and write it on the invite. All this passive agressive bull is more annoying than her wishes. I'm sorry you have to deal with that, maybe RSVP with 'sorry, I have to wash my hair that day, can't make it beotch' Do you really think kids are invited if the invitation just has your name on it? I am genuinely asking because I would never think to bring my kids unless it specifically said to on the invitation. ETA I would feel comfortable asking or at least mentioning I could only come if my infant could come, but once they are mobile only if they are invited. I know this wasn't directed at me, but yes, I would assume my little kids were invited to a baby shower. I wouldn't bring (or maybe not assume) my toddler, because, well, toddler. But a baby under one or even up to 1.5 I wouldn't think about it. I guess I just think, if they are fed, entertained, and contained, why would anyone object?
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Post by aggiebug on Jul 6, 2017 7:40:46 GMT -6
Do you really think kids are invited if the invitation just has your name on it? I am genuinely asking because I would never think to bring my kids unless it specifically said to on the invitation. ETA I would feel comfortable asking or at least mentioning I could only come if my infant could come, but once they are mobile only if they are invited. I know this wasn't directed at me, but yes, I would assume my little kids were invited to a baby shower. I wouldn't bring (or maybe not assume) my toddler, because, well, toddler. But a baby under one or even up to 1.5 I wouldn't think about it. I guess I just think, if they are fed, entertained, and contained, why would anyone object? huh interesting this absolutely blows my mind. Most my the showers I have gone to have had family babies there even but it still would not cross my mind unless it was on the invite or specifically addressed with the host/ guest of honor. I guess I follow the policy that the invitation is only for those who its addressed to even for baby showers.
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Post by hangry on Jul 6, 2017 7:45:51 GMT -6
I know this wasn't directed at me, but yes, I would assume my little kids were invited to a baby shower. I wouldn't bring (or maybe not assume) my toddler, because, well, toddler. But a baby under one or even up to 1.5 I wouldn't think about it. I guess I just think, if they are fed, entertained, and contained, why would anyone object? huh interesting this absolutely blows my mind. Â Most my the showers I have gone to have had family babies there even but it still would not cross my mind unless it was on the invite or specifically addressed with the host/ guest of honor. Â I guess I follow the policy that the invitation is only for those who its addressed to even for baby showers. thanks for sharing your perspective. I will probably start to think twice about it now!
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Post by vino on Jul 6, 2017 7:55:56 GMT -6
I agree that it is questionable if the kids are invited at all because her name is just on the invite, so yes aggiebug I agree with you there. But also, be careful to assume that anyone can just leave, it's very situation specific and tjanca22 said that she wasnt sure if her H would be home to watch L, also not all babies take bottles, like my stubborn girl 😉. It's such a grey area, because even look at all of us with some assuming that the kids are no big deal and others are saying no way. The worst part, IMO, is not that she doesn't want kids there it's the passive aggressiveness. If a person is so strong on NO KIDS then it needs to be written gently on the invite.
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Post by waitwhat on Jul 6, 2017 7:57:58 GMT -6
aggiebug that is interesting. For my baby shower, my cousin had her baby about 3 weeks prior. She brought her and I didn't even think twice about it. In that instance, what do you think?
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Post by vino on Jul 6, 2017 7:59:22 GMT -6
Also, I meant to post this yesterday My babies
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Post by cookswithwine on Jul 6, 2017 8:02:37 GMT -6
I think I sit more on aggiebug's side of the bench. I personally don't think it's assumed kids are invited. I would ask if I could bring my baby (or child) first. A friend asked me if she could bring her baby to my wedding shower and I said yes. It wasn't a big deal to me but it was polite to ask me. Maybe it's a regional thing?
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Post by Cheshie6 on Jul 6, 2017 8:21:54 GMT -6
aggiebug, I think if the mom-to-be wanted an adults only party, it's totally fine! But she should have been brave enough to put it on the invitation, or when asked say "I'm sorry but I wanted..." Not knowing everyone's background, I wouldn't leave anything to chance. (I'd assume babies were a given) But my feelings may be raw because I'm dealing with a MIL and SIL2 whose baby shower invite forgot the time, doesn't say anything about Jack 'n Jill... basically says there's a baby shower, where it'll be and where to buy gifts from registries! There were no names. So am I invited or just being informed? Jk
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Post by aggiebug on Jul 6, 2017 8:28:57 GMT -6
aggiebug that is interesting. For my baby shower, my cousin had her baby about 3 weeks prior. She brought her and I didn't even think twice about it. In that instance, what do you think? I would never leave my baby that young at home and I do think they are often the exception to the rule however I would still ask. If the host said no then I just wouldn't go. Its their choice and I might be bummed but I have to do what is best for me and my family if that means not going because I can't get childcare then it is what it is. As a host/ guest of honor I would also reach out to a mom of that young of a kid and make sure they knew it would be ok to bring them. Its also not proper etiquette to list excluded people on an invite so technically its not appropriate to say no kids or no spouses etc but its implied with how the invite is addressed. Its often disregarded these days and i personally wouldn't bat an eye if it was disregarded but I would never feel comfortable putting it on an invite either.
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Post by aggiebug on Jul 6, 2017 8:35:59 GMT -6
I agree that it is questionable if the kids are invited at all because her name is just on the invite, so yes aggiebug I agree with you there. But also, be careful to assume that anyone can just leave, it's very situation specific and tjanca22 said that she wasnt sure if her H would be home to watch L, also not all babies take bottles, like my stubborn girl 😉. It's such a grey area, because even look at all of us with some assuming that the kids are no big deal and others are saying no way. The worst part, IMO, is not that she doesn't want kids there it's the passive aggressiveness. If a person is so strong on NO KIDS then it needs to be written gently on the invite. I understand I don't assume a baby can be left at any age before one really (and still that is a generalization) but I do think it's appropriate to ask the host. Also to clarify I still think the mom to be in this situation isn't handling it as well as she could have and I understand tjancas disappointment in the situation. I am just surprised by the assumption that kids are automatically welcomed to a shower.
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Post by tgrimes on Jul 6, 2017 10:22:27 GMT -6
I had about 10 kids at my baby shower. IDNGAF. I had to take M with me when she was little to 2 bridal showers and a baby shower becuase I didn't have anyone to watch her.
I can understand a little bit at a bridal shower because there is usually alcohol & inapproriateness going on, but at a baby shower? If you want adult time at a baby shower then you should put it on the invitation.
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