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Post by cakewench on Jan 13, 2020 10:47:16 GMT -6
Engel says Pompeo won't appear before committee tomorrow:
I'm not shocked by this, transparency is a four-letter word to this administration.
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Post by iruntodrink on Jan 13, 2020 11:58:17 GMT -6
Apparently Trump authorized killing Soleimani seven months ago - it would be a retaliation option if an American was killed: Also, apparently Bolton and Pompeo wanted him to use that option when Iran shot down a drone, and Trump said no, only if an American is killed - which if true, holy fuck to Trump being a voice of reason. I'm having a hard time processing. This is like twice in the past week I've understood him and his actions/response. Excuse please, while I try and grapple with this. |
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Post by punker1212 on Jan 13, 2020 19:22:00 GMT -6
What a mess!
What I struggle with the most I think is Americans’ thirst for bloodshed. I don’t get craving and celebrating murder. I certainly don’t think hey this was a good guy what were we thinking... but this frenzy for blood is so... bad. It goes against so much of what I was taught.
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Post by Dr. Cox on Jan 13, 2020 19:50:59 GMT -6
What a mess! What I struggle with the most I think is Americans’ thirst for bloodshed. I don’t get craving and celebrating murder. I certainly don’t think hey this was a good guy what were we thinking... but this frenzy for blood is so... bad. It goes against so much of what I was taught. It reminds me of Saddam Hussein’s death. He was a horrible person, but all of the Americans sharing that cell phone video of his execution and being so gleeful about it....it was a weird, unsettling time. |
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Post by byjove on Jan 13, 2020 20:01:41 GMT -6
Apparently Trump authorized killing Soleimani seven months ago - it would be a retaliation option if an American was killed: Also, apparently Bolton and Pompeo wanted him to use that option when Iran shot down a drone, and Trump said no, only if an American is killed - which if true, holy fuck to Trump being a voice of reason. I'm having a hard time processing. This is like twice in the past week I've understood him and his actions/response. Excuse please, while I try and grapple with this. Do we know if his is really true? Because wasn’t there a whole lot of the pentagon trying to give him options and this was by far the least rational and they thought he wouldn’t pick it but he did? |
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Post by punker1212 on Jan 13, 2020 20:05:32 GMT -6
What a mess! What I struggle with the most I think is Americans’ thirst for bloodshed. I don’t get craving and celebrating murder. I certainly don’t think hey this was a good guy what were we thinking... but this frenzy for blood is so... bad. It goes against so much of what I was taught. It reminds me of Saddam Hussein’s death. He was a horrible person, but all of the Americans sharing that cell phone video of his execution and being so gleeful about it....it was a weird, unsettling time. Yes! Totally reminiscent of then. |
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 13, 2020 20:19:06 GMT -6
What a mess! What I struggle with the most I think is Americans’ thirst for bloodshed. I don’t get craving and celebrating murder. I certainly don’t think hey this was a good guy what were we thinking... but this frenzy for blood is so... bad. It goes against so much of what I was taught. It reminds me of Saddam Hussein’s death. He was a horrible person, but all of the Americans sharing that cell phone video of his execution and being so gleeful about it....it was a weird, unsettling time. Arbitrary reminder that we the US put Saddam in power to start with. And that probably should have been a clue to stop meddling in ME nation politics |
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Post by iruntodrink on Jan 13, 2020 21:08:08 GMT -6
I'm having a hard time processing. This is like twice in the past week I've understood him and his actions/response. Excuse please, while I try and grapple with this. Do we know if his is really true? Because wasn’t there a whole lot of the pentagon trying to give him options and this was by far the least rational and they thought he wouldn’t pick it but he did? pffft.... Who knows what is true anymore. Excuse please, while I laugh/cry/whimper/rock in a corner. |
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Post by dc2london on Jan 14, 2020 6:34:22 GMT -6
😳😳😳😳 I know he's a lying liar who lies and he's off his damn rocker, but HOW THE FUCK did no one double check the math here? Yeah, he's CIC but did no one even question it? Where were all the supposed adults in the room we keep hearing about in the upper military brass? Did you read the story yesterday in the Posr about how he wanted to kill Suleimani two years ago but Mattis and Kelly told him it was bad strategy? Yeah. |
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Post by enchanted on Jan 14, 2020 7:16:11 GMT -6
😳😳😳😳 I know he's a lying liar who lies and he's off his damn rocker, but HOW THE FUCK did no one double check the math here? Yeah, he's CIC but did no one even question it? Where were all the supposed adults in the room we keep hearing about in the upper military brass? Did you read the story yesterday in the Posr about how he wanted to kill Suleimani two years ago but Mattis and Kelly told him it was bad strategy? Yeah. I hadn't. JFC. |
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Post by dc2london on Jan 14, 2020 10:19:44 GMT -6
House Republicans are trying to turn this HCFA hearing into an "Obama bad" sideshow and the witnesses are smacking back with force.
It's pretty entertaining.
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Post by starbuck on Jan 17, 2020 7:45:01 GMT -6
The Dept of State is now saying that, in fact, 11 US soldiers were injured in the missile strike. Injuries were all concussions which, to be fair, can appear well after the causal incident.
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Post by cakewench on Jan 17, 2020 7:46:37 GMT -6
11 troops were injured in Iran missile strike:
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