fatpony
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Post by fatpony on Nov 19, 2019 9:02:02 GMT -6
I wish I knew how to build a Twitter bot bc I would make one that autoreplied to all of his tweets with "Moo." He'd probably try to sue me tho https://gist.github.com/Daniel15/820281
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 9:02:11 GMT -6
Did you prepare talking points? I did but they aren't in public record so I can't comment too much
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Janice
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Post by Janice on Nov 19, 2019 9:02:44 GMT -6
looks like the new GOP defense of Trump is, "The media is lying to you about what happened in these hearings. Don't believe your ears and eyes." How 1984 of them.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 9:03:03 GMT -6
As you listened did potus follow the talking points/ Well he doesnt have to but no he didnt
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:03:04 GMT -6
Vindman: we prepared talking points for POTUS for his call w/Zelensky based on official US policy, which is created through normal governmental channels. What Trump did on that call was....not....official US policy
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starbuck
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Post by starbuck on Nov 19, 2019 9:03:22 GMT -6
Trumps call was not consistent with talking points prepared by Lt Col Vindman (talking points included anti-corruption)
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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Nov 19, 2019 9:03:54 GMT -6
Was this statement based on official talking points? No
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:04:03 GMT -6
Vindman: The NSC did not tell Trump to ask about Crowdstrike and that is nowhere near official US policy
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 9:04:19 GMT -6
SURPRISE!!! Crowdstrike was not a part of the prepared talking points.
(also not really a surprise)
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:04:56 GMT -6
Vindman: I am not aware of any evidence supporting the theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election. I am "well aware" of Putin's efforts to push that conspiracy theory. But it is the assessment of our entire intelligence community that it was Russia, and not Ukraine.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 9:05:18 GMT -6
Its everyones with a functioning frontal cortex opinion that RUSSIA interfered with the 2016 election.
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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Nov 19, 2019 9:05:35 GMT -6
I may be in love with the Vindman
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:05:43 GMT -6
Vindman: NSC did not tell him to bring up the Bidens either and boy howdy that is NOT in line with US policy
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:06:54 GMT -6
Goldman: Why did you think the Trump/Zelensky was "political, in nature?"
Williams: BC Biden is a political opponent of the president
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:07:39 GMT -6
LOL Goldman: "For those of us that are not rocket scientists," could you please explain why it would be improper for the president to demand investigations into a political opponent
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jaygee
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Post by jaygee on Nov 19, 2019 9:08:10 GMT -6
This is good for public consumption/optics. They are breaking it down. I knew right away it was wrong. It’s wrong because duh.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 9:08:14 GMT -6
Can you explain what you meant that it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see whats going on here?
V- I mean look, people pull your heads out and realize potus is only in it for himself.
^dramatic reading
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:08:27 GMT -6
Vindman: I can not recall any Ukranians either in the US or abroad expressing that they felt pressure to conduct these investigations
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:10:05 GMT -6
Vindman: I was concerned about Ukraine losing bipartisan support bc they rely so deeply on our security assistance and, maybe even more importantly, the signal of broad support from the US against the Russian aggression.
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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Nov 19, 2019 9:10:27 GMT -6
Oh he's funny too
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 9:10:40 GMT -6
If it appears Ukraine doesnt have support, Russia will take further action and thats REALLY BAD
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 9:11:20 GMT -6
I speak Russian, Ukrainian and a little bit of English.
ahhhhhh
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:11:46 GMT -6
Vindman: It seemed to me that Zelensky had been prepped to anticipate the Burisma/Biden connection
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 9:12:12 GMT -6
It sounded to you that Zelensky was prepped or prepared for this call Correct
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:12:19 GMT -6
So it's pretty clear the Ukranians were freaking the eff out about Trump obsessing over this conspiracy theory
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:14:03 GMT -6
Vindman: it seems like a reasonable conclusion that Zelensky's words in the call transcript demonstrate that he understood the connection between the investigations and the aid/WH meeting
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:15:03 GMT -6
Vindman: A new president such as Zelensky would desperately want an Oval Office meeting to lend him legitimacy both at home and on the world stage
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:17:03 GMT -6
Vindman: "There was a discussion in the legal shop about how best to handle the transcript...this was viewed as a sensitive transcript and to avoid leaks and...preserve the integrity of the transcript it should be segregated to a small group of folks"
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:17:54 GMT -6
Vindman: I don't attribute any nefarious intent to the handling of the transcript
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 9:18:13 GMT -6
He sorta seems like hes hedging here
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