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Post by notblanche on Nov 19, 2019 8:47:11 GMT -6
OMG he is addressing his dad directly. You made the right decision to leave the Soviet Union. I will be fine for telling the truth.
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Post by jaygee on Nov 19, 2019 8:47:20 GMT -6
I’m here. I’ve been listening but was getting my crock pot dinner ready and briskly walking to the train.
I thought both opening statements were strong and anticipated some of the bullshit coming their way.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 8:47:27 GMT -6
Schiff just reiterated the rules. Chair and ranking can not yield time to other members ELISE
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Post by notblanche on Nov 19, 2019 8:48:06 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 8:48:08 GMT -6
oh good Pence is going to stonewall
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Post by athn64 on Nov 19, 2019 8:48:20 GMT -6
Don’t worry, i will be fine for telling the truth. They better be giving him and his family good protection. I hope they don't have to move them to a military base.
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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Nov 19, 2019 8:48:38 GMT -6
Dude. Use the mic. I can't hear you
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 8:49:31 GMT -6
Ms. Williams has been instructed to not answer questions about the call in an unclassified setting
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Post by athn64 on Nov 19, 2019 8:50:04 GMT -6
Schiff just reiterated the rules. Chair and ranking can not yield time to other members ELISE And yet they will still try just to get their sound bites
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 8:50:13 GMT -6
Vindman: the NSC recommended talking points for the first Trump-Zelensky call included raising corruption in Ukraine with Zelensky. But Trump didn't.
Much care. Very anti corruptive.
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Post by JukEboX on Nov 19, 2019 8:50:19 GMT -6
Ms. Williams has been instructed to not answer questions about the call in an unclassified setting The White House with the obstruction move by classifying the call. Fuck this.
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Post by lemondrop on Nov 19, 2019 8:51:42 GMT -6
Seriously, I cannot.
Can you imagine having your family risk their lives to get you out of a place with an authoritarian regime, to come to America, the place where you were supposed to be able to have hopes and dreams. Being so grateful to have had the life you've lived in freedom, that you join their military, fight for this country, and then THIS fucking happens? And then these pieces of shit who have less honor in their entire body than you have in your pinky nail suggest that you're a traitor or a fucking liar, get to question your honorable motives. People threaten your life and the lives of your family because you're being honest, because they can't handle the thought of not being in power?
I can't. God I hate this country sometimes.
We don't deserve the fabulous immigrants who come here, who have made this place their home and entrusted us to do right by them.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 8:52:57 GMT -6
Vindman: I warned Zelensky "to be particularly cautious w/regards to Russia and its desire to provoke Ukraine, and...to stay away from US Domestic [politics]"...[bc] it became clear that there were non-government actors that were promoting the idea of Ukraine and the 2016 election" "It is consistent with US policy in all of the countries I advise not to get involved in US Domestic policy"
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 8:53:20 GMT -6
V its customary and consistent to advise any countries in my portfolio to NOT get involved in US domestic politics.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 8:54:24 GMT -6
Vindman: Sondland said the Ukranians would not get a White House meeting without the investigations. Bolton freaked out and ended the meeting prematurely. I then reported my concerns about this to counsel.
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 8:54:33 GMT -6
You know shit is fucked when BOLTON ends a meeting
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 8:55:21 GMT -6
Vindman intimates that Mulvaney was in agreement w/Sondland that the meeting was contingent on the investigations PAGING Uncaripswife
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 8:56:37 GMT -6
Vindman: "It was my duty to report my concerns to the proper people in the chain of command...It was inappropriate--it was improper for the president to request--to demand an investigation into a political opponent, especially a foreign power where there's at best dubious belief that this would be an impartial investigation...it would undermine our Ukraine policy, it would undermine our national security"
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 8:56:53 GMT -6
Schiff is good at drawing soundbites out of witnesses
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 8:56:57 GMT -6
It was improper for potus to request, to demand an investigation into a political opponent
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Post by Janice on Nov 19, 2019 8:57:03 GMT -6
Just got to work, won't be able to watch. I'll be relying on you guys to keep me updated! Thank you for your services!
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Post by notblanche on Nov 19, 2019 8:57:34 GMT -6
What led you to believe a request like this was actually a demand?
Military culture. Even polite and pleasant, it's not a request but an order.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 8:57:39 GMT -6
Vindman: "The power disparity between [Trump and Zelensky] my impression was that in order to get this meeting, President Zelensky would have to conduct these investigations"
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 8:57:51 GMT -6
Vindman When potus asks even politely its not a request its an order.
there is also a power disparity between potus and zelensky
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Post by lemondrop on Nov 19, 2019 8:58:26 GMT -6
Vindman intimates that Mulvaney was in agreement w/Sondland that the meeting was contingent on the investigations PAGING Uncaripswife DRIP DRIP DRIP Every last one of these motherfuckers was involved and knew what was happening. And each one of these motherfuckers KNEW that this was illegal and impeachable. DRIP DRIP MOTHERFUCKERS, NOW WE ALL KNOW.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 8:58:46 GMT -6
Williams: I had only heard in press reporting about Rudy's freelancing, so when I heard about the hold on the aid, it made me wonder if the two were connected
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Post by lemondrop on Nov 19, 2019 9:00:12 GMT -6
Vindman When potus asks even politely its not a request its an order. there is also a power disparity between potus and zelenskyPutin must be laughing his ass off right now. Dr. Evil stroking his cat. Look at the chaos he's caused. He's probably thrilled.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 19, 2019 9:00:33 GMT -6
Schiff: why was "Burisma" removed from the call notes?
Vindman: It's possible the voice to text didn't catch the word Burisma. But I don't see this as a significant omission
Schiff: Ok but you raised the fact that it was excluded?
Vindman: The transcribers do the best they can, but it is my responsibility to help round out and correct the transcript. So that's what I did.
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 19, 2019 9:00:44 GMT -6
Both of you recall the mentioning Burisma? Both-correct Schiff do you know why that was left out Nope well its still an accurate(ish) transcript. They may not have caught the word, I tried to make the transcript as accurate as possible.
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Post by cakewench on Nov 19, 2019 9:00:48 GMT -6
Schiff is good at drawing soundbites out of witnesses I just hope they're pizzazz-y enough. *rolls eyes*
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