Royal 👑 - October

[drr]

Oct 26, 2019 7:19:33 GMT -6 mb3 said:

Oct 26, 2019 7:15:19 GMT -6 ArielMermaid said:

They’re both social climbers. I doubt anyone married into the Royal family isn’t. That’s how you get positioned to meet these people.

We’ve got ice queen rumors about Kate and a source in the blinds saying Meghan is mean to her manicurists. So 🤷‍♀️ All these people are probably for real assholes, just like most celebrities.

I was just going to say I think anyone marrying into any Royal family is a social climber. Maybe not as much as you move out of the immediate circle of the monarch but still.

Also for the record, Princess Mary supposedly didn’t know Prince Frederik was a Prince when they met and learned it from tv a few weeks later. Possibly true, who knows. But I think a lot of people have to gloss over how they met.

I'm not a royal, but tend to gloss over how I met my husband depending on the people I'm talking to.  I have friends who ended up marrying someone who started out as a one-night stand and they gloss over how they met.  I tend to not give a lot of weight to the stories of how people met because really, who cares?

If you stalked your husband all over England including a gap year to trap his ass (TM Allie Wong), or met him yachting all the more power to you

[sally]

Oct 26, 2019 7:50:43 GMT -6 emma said:

I think when Meghan gets labeled as pushy and demanding it’s just down to cultural differences. Americans are more direct in their approach to everything and Brits tend to do this round about nicey thing where you have to decider the request. Eg.

Brit asking for tea: “I think it would be nice to have some tea soon, but no hurry, whenever you’re ready”. Translation- bring me tea now and if it’s not here in 3 minutes I’m sending the guard in to find you.

American same request: “i’d Like some tea please, steaped for 1 minute, as soon as possible.” - labeled demanding

Add on top all the racist shit and bam Meghan’s and pushy demanding bitch*

Not my personal feelings. I think she’s lovely and I want to be besties

I’m pretty sure it’s been said here before, but even just because she is American she’s got that against her (and I don’t mean just that’s she’s not British and married into the BRF, American specifically). Outside of the US Americans have a reputation for being rude, pushy, and loud so even if she was the nicest person in the world, people that have never met her would or are meeting her for the first time have that stereotype in their head and clouding any interaction they’d have with her.

I mean, when I travel outside Canada and the US I tend to pin a Canada flag somewhere so I don’t get mistaken for an American, and it actually makes a difference in how people treat us 🤷‍♀️

[betches]

Oct 26, 2019 6:44:24 GMT -6 frlcb said:

Oct 26, 2019 5:55:49 GMT -6 normadix said:

Guys, I’m not like throwing darts at her face at home, I just don’t care for her. There are many, many celebrities I don’t like for a number of reasons. Maybe you have some too. My personal opinion is she is a social climber who ended up with a prince. I think they lied about how they met and her line about “but is he kind?” made me roll my eyes. She doesn’t come across as genuine to me when she talks, that is my opinion.

Being besties with that Jessica woman is a bit suspect to me. And I feel like there have been a few things said here and there that she isn’t very nice to people “below her.” I don’t take the blinds at face value I just think where there is smoke, there is fire a good percentage of the time.

Also, I think it is okay for people to just not like someone.

Yes, of course it is okay for people to not like someone. But she gets an abnormally high percentage of people who dislike her 'just because', or who think all these things of her that there is never concrete proof of. British tabloids are not concrete proof. Why is she a social climber? Because she was an actress? And not from the upper echelon of British society? I just can't wrap my head around the massive amount of shit she gets for just being her. She's vocal, it's a problem. She talks about her love for him, it's a problem. She tries to do good things, it's a problem cause she does them the wrong way. She literally can't win. I have never seen one positive article about her. Her clothes are awful, her hair is unkempt, she is a social climber. When the public is constantly reading all this negativity it seeps in to peoples perceptions and then even when there is no valid reason to say she is a social climber or a mean person people say it anyway.

Its this kind of thing that loses me. I generally like Meghan despite some things I find eye rolly about her, but I just can’t with this level of defending her. Nobody’s debating that she’s been treated unfairly in the press and I do think it’s an important topic to discuss, but it goes so far in the other direction that it becomes laughable. Maybe I’m too cynical or have embraced the blind’s love of ruining everyone too much, but to act like anyone is infallible and shouldn’t be criticized in anyway is too much for me.

[beatch]

Oct 26, 2019 6:59:35 GMT -6 angelashly said:

Like I’m laughing that kate isn’t considered a social climber when she transferred schools and waited a year to make sure she was at school with Will

I mean, frankly I admire the effort.

I didn't even know it was possible for an American to marry a prince, and I really would have made different choices HAD I KNOWN.

[beatch]

Oct 26, 2019 7:22:30 GMT -6 claudia said:

Oct 26, 2019 7:02:54 GMT -6 frlcb said:

But...she's British. And white. And keeps her mouth shut. So people love her.

Yep. And the “keeps her mouth shut” is a big part of it, I think. In addition to the racism, I think Meghan faces a lot of sexism because she’s always been outspoken about her causes (long before she met Harry). Some of it is coded “she’s demanding of her staff” instead of “she has high standards” like it would be framed for a man. And she married into a historically patriarchal organization/family. Yes, the current monarch is female, but until Kate was pregnant with George, women were still behind the men in terms of succession.

And then enter a biracial, outspoken activist like Meghan and the Piers Morgans of the world can’t handle it, make it their mission to publish negative stories about her, her estranged family helps, and people are like “hmmm.... there’s something about her I just don’t like.”

She and Harry got more flack for taking a private jet that a friend paid for them and paid for carbon offsets for than Kate and William did for getting a helicopter and helipad installed at Kensington Palace and Amner Hall to ease their commute.

I mean this is a clear picture here. How many private flights did Kate + Will take in their entire relationship and marriage with zero flack? Now Harry and Meghan take a couple of flights and it's a BIG DEAL.

I don't care if ANY of them take private flights. But it was never an issue until Harry and Meghan.

And you know, I'd be FUCKING PISSED if I married into the royal family and now we can't take private flights. WHAT IS THE POINT. WHERE IS MY CROWN.

[Bookshelves]

I can’t do the private flights fight again. I can’t. Please someone charge Prince Andrew with something already. We need new drama.

[beatch]

Speaking of crowns, I'm thinking of ordering one from Amazon to watch the new season of The Crown.

This one is speaking to me. Understated, but elegant.

[mb3]

Unrelated, but I want you all to know that I’m going to a Halloween party tonight and I’m attempting to do a 1920s hairstyle for my costume. Channeling the look Princess Mary had in the Downton Abbey movie (see, that’s my tie back to the Royals). Mainly because I want to be able to wear my jeweled headband tonight.

[ArielMermaid]

Oct 26, 2019 6:44:24 GMT -6 frlcb said:

Oct 26, 2019 5:55:49 GMT -6 normadix said:

Guys, I’m not like throwing darts at her face at home, I just don’t care for her. There are many, many celebrities I don’t like for a number of reasons. Maybe you have some too. My personal opinion is she is a social climber who ended up with a prince. I think they lied about how they met and her line about “but is he kind?” made me roll my eyes. She doesn’t come across as genuine to me when she talks, that is my opinion.

Being besties with that Jessica woman is a bit suspect to me. And I feel like there have been a few things said here and there that she isn’t very nice to people “below her.” I don’t take the blinds at face value I just think where there is smoke, there is fire a good percentage of the time.

Also, I think it is okay for people to just not like someone.

Yes, of course it is okay for people to not like someone. But she gets an abnormally high percentage of people who dislike her 'just because', or who think all these things of her that there is never concrete proof of. British tabloids are not concrete proof. Why is she a social climber? Because she was an actress? And not from the upper echelon of British society? I just can't wrap my head around the massive amount of shit she gets for just being her. She's vocal, it's a problem. She talks about her love for him, it's a problem. She tries to do good things, it's a problem cause she does them the wrong way. She literally can't win. I have never seen one positive article about her. Her clothes are awful, her hair is unkempt, she is a social climber. When the public is constantly reading all this negativity it seeps in to peoples perceptions and then even when there is no valid reason to say she is a social climber or a mean person people say it anyway.

Some positive articles for you, just from the past few weeks.

www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/amp29585168/meghan-markle-one-young-world-red-leather-skirt/

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/19/opinions/meghan-markle-interview-struggle-new-moms-alaimo/index.html

www.vanityfair.com/style/2019/10/meghan-markle-one-young-world-charity/amp

deadline.com/2019/10/aoc-backs-meghan-markle-with-supportive-tweet-1202764551/amp/

www.bbc.com/news/amp/newsbeat-50181195

people.com/royals/meghan-markle-meaningful-message-africa-tour-wardrobe/amp/

people.com/royals/meghan-markle-had-a-special-surprise-for-a-young-pen-pal-delivered-by-prince-harry/amp/

www.vanityfair.com/style/2019/09/meghan-markle-embraces-fans-in-a-group-hug/amp

[frlcb]

Oct 26, 2019 11:05:04 GMT -6 betches said:

Oct 26, 2019 6:44:24 GMT -6 frlcb said:

Yes, of course it is okay for people to not like someone. But she gets an abnormally high percentage of people who dislike her 'just because', or who think all these things of her that there is never concrete proof of. British tabloids are not concrete proof. Why is she a social climber? Because she was an actress? And not from the upper echelon of British society? I just can't wrap my head around the massive amount of shit she gets for just being her. She's vocal, it's a problem. She talks about her love for him, it's a problem. She tries to do good things, it's a problem cause she does them the wrong way. She literally can't win. I have never seen one positive article about her. Her clothes are awful, her hair is unkempt, she is a social climber. When the public is constantly reading all this negativity it seeps in to peoples perceptions and then even when there is no valid reason to say she is a social climber or a mean person people say it anyway.

Its this kind of thing that loses me. I generally like Meghan despite some things I find eye rolly about her, but I just can’t with this level of defending her. Nobody’s debating that she’s been treated unfairly in the press and I do think it’s an important topic to discuss, but it goes so far in the other direction that it becomes laughable. Maybe I’m too cynical or have embraced the blind’s love of ruining everyone too much, but to act like anyone is infallible and shouldn’t be criticized in anyway is too much for me.

Of course she will be criticized. I don’t think I ever said she never should be. But I’m saying that I never read articles where the intent is to write something about her in a positive light. To me it’s much like comments online - it is usually the negative, nasty people who comment. It is just the way it is. And I do think that is unfair, but having lived in the UK I also know that is the way the British tabloid press roll.

Edit: obviously I am reading the wrong publications, and maybe should have said rarely read positive articles about her. But I still maintain that the negative ones far outweigh the positive ones.

[emma]

Oct 26, 2019 11:19:49 GMT -6 beatch said:

Oct 26, 2019 7:22:30 GMT -6 claudia said:

Yep. And the “keeps her mouth shut” is a big part of it, I think. In addition to the racism, I think Meghan faces a lot of sexism because she’s always been outspoken about her causes (long before she met Harry). Some of it is coded “she’s demanding of her staff” instead of “she has high standards” like it would be framed for a man. And she married into a historically patriarchal organization/family. Yes, the current monarch is female, but until Kate was pregnant with George, women were still behind the men in terms of succession.

And then enter a biracial, outspoken activist like Meghan and the Piers Morgans of the world can’t handle it, make it their mission to publish negative stories about her, her estranged family helps, and people are like “hmmm.... there’s something about her I just don’t like.”

She and Harry got more flack for taking a private jet that a friend paid for them and paid for carbon offsets for than Kate and William did for getting a helicopter and helipad installed at Kensington Palace and Amner Hall to ease their commute.

I mean this is a clear picture here. How many private flights did Kate + Will take in their entire relationship and marriage with zero flack? Now Harry and Meghan take a couple of flights and it's a BIG DEAL.

I don't care if ANY of them take private flights. But it was never an issue until Harry and Meghan.

And you know, I'd be FUCKING PISSED if I married into the royal family and now we can't take private flights. WHAT IS THE POINT. WHERE IS MY CROWN.

Harry lecturing people about eco tourism and climate change was the point of contention regarding private flights. Did you really miss that entire point?

[beatch]

Oct 26, 2019 12:39:40 GMT -6 emma said:

Oct 26, 2019 11:19:49 GMT -6 beatch said:

I mean this is a clear picture here. How many private flights did Kate + Will take in their entire relationship and marriage with zero flack? Now Harry and Meghan take a couple of flights and it's a BIG DEAL.

I don't care if ANY of them take private flights. But it was never an issue until Harry and Meghan.

And you know, I'd be FUCKING PISSED if I married into the royal family and now we can't take private flights. WHAT IS THE POINT. WHERE IS MY CROWN.

Harry lecturing people about eco tourism and climate change was the point of contention regarding private flights. Did you really miss that entire point?

Oh, honestly I'd forgotten about that. LOL and derp.

[normadix]

Oct 26, 2019 11:05:04 GMT -6 betches said:

Oct 26, 2019 6:44:24 GMT -6 frlcb said:

Yes, of course it is okay for people to not like someone. But she gets an abnormally high percentage of people who dislike her 'just because', or who think all these things of her that there is never concrete proof of. British tabloids are not concrete proof. Why is she a social climber? Because she was an actress? And not from the upper echelon of British society? I just can't wrap my head around the massive amount of shit she gets for just being her. She's vocal, it's a problem. She talks about her love for him, it's a problem. She tries to do good things, it's a problem cause she does them the wrong way. She literally can't win. I have never seen one positive article about her. Her clothes are awful, her hair is unkempt, she is a social climber. When the public is constantly reading all this negativity it seeps in to peoples perceptions and then even when there is no valid reason to say she is a social climber or a mean person people say it anyway.

Its this kind of thing that loses me. I generally like Meghan despite some things I find eye rolly about her, but I just can’t with this level of defending her. Nobody’s debating that she’s been treated unfairly in the press and I do think it’s an important topic to discuss, but it goes so far in the other direction that it becomes laughable. Maybe I’m too cynical or have embraced the blind’s love of ruining everyone too much, but to act like anyone is infallible and shouldn’t be criticized in anyway is too much for me.

Here. It’s perfectly okay for someone not to care for a celebrity. I don’t get why those of us who maybe aren’t the biggest MM fans have to provide example after example of why. It’s silly, frankly. Maybe I’ll stick to the blinds because it loses its fun to have to all be on the same page about everyone.

And no where in my response to mention Kate. It isn’t as if I said MM does this but K doesn’t. I don’t know, man.

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Oct 26, 2019 13:53:06 GMT -6 normadix said:

Oct 26, 2019 11:05:04 GMT -6 betches said:

Its this kind of thing that loses me. I generally like Meghan despite some things I find eye rolly about her, but I just can’t with this level of defending her. Nobody’s debating that she’s been treated unfairly in the press and I do think it’s an important topic to discuss, but it goes so far in the other direction that it becomes laughable. Maybe I’m too cynical or have embraced the blind’s love of ruining everyone too much, but to act like anyone is infallible and shouldn’t be criticized in anyway is too much for me.

Here. It’s perfectly okay for someone not to care for a celebrity. I don’t get why those of us who maybe aren’t the biggest MM fans have to provide example after example of why. It’s silly, frankly. Maybe I’ll stick to the blinds because it loses its fun to have to all be on the same page about everyone.

And no where in my response to mention Kate. It isn’t as if I said MM does this but K doesn’t. I don’t know, man.

No one asked you to provide examples?

[angelashly]

Oct 26, 2019 13:53:06 GMT -6 normadix said:

Oct 26, 2019 11:05:04 GMT -6 betches said:

Its this kind of thing that loses me. I generally like Meghan despite some things I find eye rolly about her, but I just can’t with this level of defending her. Nobody’s debating that she’s been treated unfairly in the press and I do think it’s an important topic to discuss, but it goes so far in the other direction that it becomes laughable. Maybe I’m too cynical or have embraced the blind’s love of ruining everyone too much, but to act like anyone is infallible and shouldn’t be criticized in anyway is too much for me.

Here. It’s perfectly okay for someone not to care for a celebrity. I don’t get why those of us who maybe aren’t the biggest MM fans have to provide example after example of why. It’s silly, frankly. Maybe I’ll stick to the blinds because it loses its fun to have to all be on the same page about everyone.

And no where in my response to mention Kate. It isn’t as if I said MM does this but K doesn’t. I don’t know, man.

No one asked for examples you said you didn’t like her because she wasn’t genuine and is difficult. You have to understand people would want to know how you knew those things

[kmkd]

Oct 26, 2019 13:53:06 GMT -6 normadix said:

Oct 26, 2019 11:05:04 GMT -6 betches said:

Its this kind of thing that loses me. I generally like Meghan despite some things I find eye rolly about her, but I just can’t with this level of defending her. Nobody’s debating that she’s been treated unfairly in the press and I do think it’s an important topic to discuss, but it goes so far in the other direction that it becomes laughable. Maybe I’m too cynical or have embraced the blind’s love of ruining everyone too much, but to act like anyone is infallible and shouldn’t be criticized in anyway is too much for me.

Here. It’s perfectly okay for someone not to care for a celebrity. I don’t get why those of us who maybe aren’t the biggest MM fans have to provide example after example of why. It’s silly, frankly. Maybe I’ll stick to the blinds because it loses its fun to have to all be on the same page about everyone.

And no where in my response to mention Kate. It isn’t as if I said MM does this but K doesn’t. I don’t know, man.

This is how I feel.

[angelashly]

Oct 26, 2019 14:53:36 GMT -6 @icedtea said:

I don't know how many other ways to say this. You don't have to like her, but people are allowed to be protective and share that frustration here without being told they're silencing MM critics.

How very dare you.

Like I literally took a week or so off of posting in the thread for this reason

[emma]

I don’t like Kate’s hair

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Oct 26, 2019 14:53:36 GMT -6 @icedtea said:

I don't know how many other ways to say this. You don't have to like her, but people are allowed to be protective and share that frustration here without being told they're silencing MM critics.

This. If anything, the folks who feel protective of her have gone out of their way to explain why, thoughtfully and respectfully.

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Oct 26, 2019 15:44:03 GMT -6 emma said:

I don’t like Kate’s hair

😱😱😱 GET OUT


😂jk

[angelashly]

Oct 26, 2019 15:44:03 GMT -6 emma said:

I don’t like Kate’s hair

❤️

[kmkd]

Oct 26, 2019 14:53:36 GMT -6 @icedtea said:

I don't know how many other ways to say this. You don't have to like her, but people are allowed to be protective and share that frustration here without being told they're silencing MM critics.

This doesn’t make sense. So I don’t have to be her biggest fan, but if I dare say so her fans will “silence the critics.” But they don’t want to be told so.
Ok.
I’m out on this subject, I’ll just stick to dresses and tiaras.

[xtine22]

Oct 26, 2019 8:12:06 GMT -6 sally said:

Oct 25, 2019 20:23:17 GMT -6 easier said:

Well, it’s something those of us with white hair need to remember. We should stop treating our hair as the “default” hair.

I think 95% of the time, her hair looks pretty good, and better than my hair 😬🤷‍♀️I also don’t get worked up about her liking the face-framing pieces, but I’m only a little older than her and my formative years for looks were in the 90’s so I’m using that as an excuse. Like, maybe it’s not a contemporary look but she feels like it’s a look that has worked for her over the years and it’s comfortable to her in what is likely a lot of stressful situations.

Her ears don’t stick out at all, right? Mine do a bit and I also like the pieces out when I have my hair up because I feel like it hides my ears a bit (spoiler:it probably doesn’t,really) but I don’t think she had that issue.

ETA I do realize I’m comparing myself (well, my hair) to her and I’m probably part of the problem. I should probably work on that.

Thank you for saying that about the 90’s hair. I did the same thing and was just thinking Megan just still really liked that look.

[angelashly]

Sometimes just saying i hear why people may take offense to that criticism goes a long way just saying

[kmkd]

Oct 26, 2019 16:20:17 GMT -6 @icedtea said:

Oct 26, 2019 16:17:03 GMT -6 kmkd said:

This doesn’t make sense. So I don’t have to be her biggest fan, but if I dare say so her fans will “silence the critics.” But they don’t want to be told so.
Ok.
I’m out on this subject, I’ll just stick to dresses and tiaras.

I have literally said "say you don't like her, it's cool!" No one is silencing you.

I totally get that. But I also don’t want to hear the million reasons I’m wrong every time, so.
It’s not a big deal. I just don’t understand why we can all differ about any other person except her.

[kmkd]

Oct 26, 2019 16:22:35 GMT -6 angelashly said:

Sometimes just saying i hear why people may take offense to that criticism goes a long way just saying

I don’t know if this is directed at me but I didn’t comment on her hair, so I didn’t address it.

[angelashly]

Oct 26, 2019 16:24:34 GMT -6 kmkd said:

Oct 26, 2019 16:22:35 GMT -6 angelashly said:

Sometimes just saying i hear why people may take offense to that criticism goes a long way just saying

I don’t know if this is directed at me but I didn’t comment on her hair, so I didn’t address it.

It’s addressed to the general

[mb3]

I guess I don’t think we know enough about Meghan to really elicit feelings of dislike for her as a person. I think I’m relatively neutral on her. I think her clothing choices should still be up for the same debate as we have on every other Royal though.

[catmom88]

We need fresh pictures.

[angelashly]

Oct 26, 2019 16:32:25 GMT -6 mb3 said:

I guess I don’t think we know enough about Meghan to really elicit feelings of dislike for her as a person. I think I’m relatively neutral on her. I think her clothing choices should still be up for the same debate as we have on every other Royal though.

Her clothes are