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Post by dc2london on Oct 2, 2019 15:03:46 GMT -6
I have a few thoughts about the briefing from the IG to Jamie Raskin but I....it's weird. I can't tell whether this is a other whistle blow from inside State, an attempt at deflection, muddying the waters....this is weird
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Post by cakewench on Oct 2, 2019 15:09:21 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Oct 2, 2019 15:19:39 GMT -6
Brb gonna go call his office again to tell him I love him
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 2, 2019 15:25:05 GMT -6
I have a few thoughts about the briefing from the IG to Jamie Raskin but I....it's weird. I can't tell whether this is a other whistle blow from inside State, an attempt at deflection, muddying the waters....this is weird That was really strange. I thought it was bizarre.
Raskin is on with Wolff right now and its still not making any sense.
because its almost like the IG was bringing a packet of nonsense to them to muddy waters. Why didnt the FBI do anything with it? Is it important because they are T property folders?
i'm so confused
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Post by elle on Oct 2, 2019 15:27:06 GMT -6
Gracious. And is it just me or is he distinctly pink around the edges? Like around his eyes. And his temples and ears.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 2, 2019 15:39:05 GMT -6
Gracious. And is it just me or is he distinctly pink around the edges? Like around his eyes. And his temples and ears. THANK YOU! I said this earlier and wasnt sure if it was my phone or not. He looked really pink today.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 2, 2019 15:41:28 GMT -6
Watch Raskin when the reporters start talking 😂😂
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 2, 2019 15:45:04 GMT -6
Watch Raskin when the reporters start talking 😂😂 to be fair I jumped as well.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 2, 2019 16:06:45 GMT -6
PENCE is in the pool now NEW: Trump involved VP Pence in efforts to exert pressure on leader of Ukraine as he pursued Biden dirt through other channels. Pence aides insist he did not know of this hidden agenda, despite numerous warning signs. With @gregjaffe @ashleyrparker t.co/nyb3qbTY6j
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Post by enchanted on Oct 2, 2019 16:13:22 GMT -6
PENCE is in the pool now NEW: Trump involved VP Pence in efforts to exert pressure on leader of Ukraine as he pursued Biden dirt through other channels. Pence aides insist he did not know of this hidden agenda, despite numerous warning signs. With @gregjaffe @ashleyrparker t.co/nyb3qbTY6jI want Pence to go down with the ship because he's a scary motherfucker, but GD this is depressing for the country. Not one honorable person in the administration.
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Post by enchanted on Oct 2, 2019 16:14:38 GMT -6
Not that I ever thought Pence was but you know what I mean.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 2, 2019 16:14:53 GMT -6
PENCE is in the pool now NEW: Trump involved VP Pence in efforts to exert pressure on leader of Ukraine as he pursued Biden dirt through other channels. Pence aides insist he did not know of this hidden agenda, despite numerous warning signs. With @gregjaffe @ashleyrparker t.co/nyb3qbTY6jOf course he is.
the orange one will take everyone down himself before he goes down.
As abhorrent as Pence is, I dont think he would knowingly commit impeachable offenses. Lindsey Graham on the other hand....
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Post by dc2london on Oct 2, 2019 16:16:41 GMT -6
In my mind, what Pence does next will be really important. He has plausible deniability right now. If he comes out and says the things his aides said in the Post's story and then says, "I did nothing wrong and I'll fully comply with the investigation " then I'll probably believe him.
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Post by jaygee on Oct 2, 2019 16:17:23 GMT -6
So I’m watching the beginning of the joint news conference and oh em gee, the Finnish presidents face when T quipped that they “ save a lot of money” by not being in NATO is my favorite mood. He almost started laughing out loud.
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Post by elle on Oct 2, 2019 16:17:35 GMT -6
PENCE is in the pool now NEW: Trump involved VP Pence in efforts to exert pressure on leader of Ukraine as he pursued Biden dirt through other channels. Pence aides insist he did not know of this hidden agenda, despite numerous warning signs. With @gregjaffe @ashleyrparker t.co/nyb3qbTY6jI said this back at the start! I knew it.
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Post by elle on Oct 2, 2019 16:19:04 GMT -6
In my mind, what Pence does next will be really important. He has plausible deniability right now. If he comes out and says the things his aides said in the Post's story and then says, "I did nothing wrong and I'll fully comply with the investigation " then I'll probably believe him. Prediction: he's going to struggle with the complying with the investigation bit.
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Post by enchanted on Oct 2, 2019 16:19:20 GMT -6
PENCE is in the pool now NEW: Trump involved VP Pence in efforts to exert pressure on leader of Ukraine as he pursued Biden dirt through other channels. Pence aides insist he did not know of this hidden agenda, despite numerous warning signs. With @gregjaffe @ashleyrparker t.co/nyb3qbTY6jOf course he is.
the orange one will take everyone down himself before he goes down.
As abhorrent as Pence is, I dont think he would knowingly commit impeachable offenses. Lindsey Graham on the other hand....
Every time Lindsey comes up, I hear "Room Where It Happens" in my head.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 2, 2019 16:19:36 GMT -6
In my mind, what Pence does next will be really important. He has plausible deniability right now. If he comes out and says the things his aides said in the Post's story and then says, "I did nothing wrong and I'll fully comply with the investigation " then I'll probably believe him. He's going to struggle with the complying with the investigation bit. That's not my problem :coughBenghazicough:
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Post by elle on Oct 2, 2019 16:21:53 GMT -6
PENCE is in the pool now NEW: Trump involved VP Pence in efforts to exert pressure on leader of Ukraine as he pursued Biden dirt through other channels. Pence aides insist he did not know of this hidden agenda, despite numerous warning signs. With @gregjaffe @ashleyrparker t.co/nyb3qbTY6jOf course he is.
the orange one will take everyone down himself before he goes down.
As abhorrent as Pence is, I dont think he would knowingly commit impeachable offenses. Lindsey Graham on the other hand....
Oh see I see Pence as a follower and I think he would definitely commit impeachable offenses but only if he thought he was protected by those around him and wouldn't get caught.
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Post by sctiger on Oct 2, 2019 17:15:00 GMT -6
So basically since Schiff is head of the Intelligence Committee, the whistleblower ran it by his staff, who advised the whistleblower to seek counsel? And that is common protocol? I have no doubt Schiff is in the clear but just want to make sure I'm understanding it correctly.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 2, 2019 19:05:06 GMT -6
So basically since Schiff is head of the Intelligence Committee, the whistleblower ran it by his staff, who advised the whistleblower to seek counsel? And that is common protocol? I have no doubt Schiff is in the clear but just want to make sure I'm understanding it correctly. Based on the reporting, everything that we know happened is standard operating procedure. It is completely reasonable and normal for an IC official to reach out to the intelligence committees when they see something amiss, because the intel committees are tasked with oversight of the intel community. It is their actual job. And it is standard procedure for the committee staff (and it's likely the WB reached out to Majority Committee staff, not Schiff staff) to say, "Ok, we can take that under advisement but you have to file a complaint with the inspector general." It's all exactly how this is supposed to play out. I'm not absolving Schiff , I'm just saying there's no suggestion of any impropriety in any of the public reporting. I'd like to hear more from Chairman Schiff about what transpired because, obviously, this reporting in NYT naturally opens the door for some questions from those who oppose this inquiry, and I'd rather know that all parties are proceeding with unimpeachable conduct (ha)
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Post by richard on Oct 2, 2019 19:20:47 GMT -6
I know...let’s ask the guy in prison.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 2, 2019 19:24:39 GMT -6
So they’re releasing some of the documents in the packet of material the IG turned over
I saw Soros name on one of the pics of a doc.
They are so bad at crime whomever put it together
PS still waiting on my protest check George
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Post by dc2london on Oct 2, 2019 19:29:59 GMT -6
ok so I was on a brain meltingly confusing conference call and was trying my best to respond to all the WB news but another source has now added to earlier reporting and, *based on major news outlet reporting* but with limited first hand accounting here's where we are:
-someone who was on the Trump-Zelensky call, person Y, thought it was hinky -they told person X, who would have a reason to need to know this while conducting his or her foreign relations/national security regular duties -Person Y told the lawyers at the intel agency wherein they are employed that they fear fuckery is afoot -agency lawyers say they will take it under advisement -person Y is not satisfied with that, for whatever reason -person Y tells person X that SOMETHING IS HINKY -person X tells a staffer on the relevant congressional oversight committee, whose job it is to oversee conduct of the relevant agency, that SOMETHING IS HINKY. -staffer tasked with oversight of the thing person X is worried about says, "Yeah that seems weird. You should report that to the lawyers whose job it is to make sure weird stuff doesn't happen" -staffer says to Congressional committee chairman, "Hey, it sounds like there's fuckery afoot. Since it's your literal job to make sure fuckery isn't afoot, I thought you should know. Also, I told the person who saw the fuckery to alert the appropriate legal authorities to protect both themselves and the people they are accusing of fuckery. Because that is my literal job." -Person X submits detailed complaint to Intelligence Community Inspector General following legal federal whistleblower protections
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Post by dc2london on Oct 2, 2019 19:32:07 GMT -6
I know...let’s ask the guy in prison. I mean that really brings it full circle, right? Because the Democratic Chairpersons are arguing that this is all a ruse to absolve Russia and Paul Manafort and here they are consulting Paul Manafort?
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 2, 2019 19:41:02 GMT -6
Hillary just called Ukraine the canary in the coal mine.
That makes so much sense
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Post by athn64 on Oct 2, 2019 19:43:42 GMT -6
I know...let’s ask the guy in prison. WHAT ON EARTH?
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 2, 2019 19:46:39 GMT -6
I know...let’s ask the guy in prison. WHAT ON EARTH? I’m not even the least bit shocked
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Post by athn64 on Oct 2, 2019 19:54:19 GMT -6
I’m not even the least bit shocked I guess I expected them not to consult with someone in jail for trying to influence an election through foreign officials while they were doing that. You know, because I guess I expected at least a modicum of logic to exist in someone's brain somewhere
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 2, 2019 19:59:00 GMT -6
Rachel just asked hills if she had any advice for vpotus sos ag et al
She looked like she wanted to yell BENGHAZI I don’t care if you mothafuckers burn but she didn’t
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