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Post by byjove on Sept 26, 2019 8:28:22 GMT -6
Wait, so did VP Biden pressure Ukrainian officials to drop the probe for his son's interests?
If so, I don't see how he can maintain his presidential candidacy. This is just way to messy.
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Post by oreobitsy on Sept 26, 2019 8:35:34 GMT -6
Wait, so did VP Biden pressure Ukrainian officials to drop the probe for his son's interests? If so, I don't see how he can maintain his presidential candidacy. This is just way to messy. I think this is way too messy period. I don't think Biden is going to make it through it. My husband thinks Biden was the sacrificial lamb to save the other candidates from Trumps shenanigans, which is a nice thought but I highly doubt that.
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Post by notblanche on Sept 26, 2019 8:36:37 GMT -6
Wait, so did VP Biden pressure Ukrainian officials to drop the probe for his son's interests? If so, I don't see how he can maintain his presidential candidacy. This is just way to messy. My coworker who is a Biden supporter even said yesterday this is it for his chances. It’s too messy.
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Post by athn64 on Sept 26, 2019 8:37:26 GMT -6
Biden def should bow out gracefully. He's not the right fit regardless.
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Post by notblanche on Sept 26, 2019 8:40:12 GMT -6
If you’re keeping track at home, I can eat in 44 minutes!
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Post by byjove on Sept 26, 2019 8:42:15 GMT -6
Wait, so did VP Biden pressure Ukrainian officials to drop the probe for his son's interests? If so, I don't see how he can maintain his presidential candidacy. This is just way to messy. I think this is way too messy period. I don't think Biden is going to make it through it. My husband thinks Biden was the sacrificial lamb to save the other candidates from Trumps shenanigans, which is a nice thought but I highly doubt that. Ok I will agree with this. Even if he didn't at this point, it is all too tangled for him to make it through successfully. I guess DT's ultimate goal of bringing Biden down was achieved??!
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Post by jkjacq on Sept 26, 2019 8:57:54 GMT -6
Wait, so did VP Biden pressure Ukrainian officials to drop the probe for his son's interests? If so, I don't see how he can maintain his presidential candidacy. This is just way to messy. well yes but so did about 345193847509134857 of our allies.
it was a concerted effort to oust a corrupt official in the Ukraine.
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Post by taconight on Sept 26, 2019 9:38:01 GMT -6
I just want to say I've been waiting many, many moons to see a thread with this title.
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Post by taconight on Sept 26, 2019 9:39:30 GMT -6
Whoops, that's huge. Sorry.
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Post by flippinchica on Sept 26, 2019 10:13:27 GMT -6
This seems... really bad. I’m parenting a feverish child today but hoping some good summaries will be posted. I’ve got a feverish kid today too. Solidarity. Here too, and I also don't feel too great either. I went to work from 8 to 10 and then rushed home so dh could make it in time to teach his class.
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Post by sctiger on Sept 26, 2019 10:24:38 GMT -6
Definitely agree that Biden should bow out gracefully. I want to remember him as Obama's VP. This is just too messy and you know it will be used in a negative way by the Republicans.
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Post by byjove on Sept 26, 2019 10:27:30 GMT -6
So when do we think the announcement will come that the House recess is canceled? There is no way they can leave for 2 weeks now, right?!
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Post by dc2london on Sept 26, 2019 10:37:48 GMT -6
Wait, so did VP Biden pressure Ukrainian officials to drop the probe for his son's interests? If so, I don't see how he can maintain his presidential candidacy. This is just way to messy. No. Not at all. The prosecutor in question was considered corrupt bc he failed to investigate certain things that were politically advantageous to himself. He *wouldn't* have investigated the company Hunter Biden was working with, but Biden pushed for his ouster nonetheless. Biden actually worked AGAINST his son's interests in working against the prosecutor.
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Post by dc2london on Sept 26, 2019 10:38:34 GMT -6
So when do we think the announcement will come that the House recess is canceled? There is no way they can leave for 2 weeks now, right?! At the very least, Schiff is going to have to fly home for the weekend bc after this morning his forehead needs a little boost if you know what I mean
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Post by Uncaripswife on Sept 26, 2019 10:39:53 GMT -6
So when do we think the announcement will come that the House recess is canceled? There is no way they can leave for 2 weeks now, right?! Do we have a budget? Or a CR? I lost track in all the ... ::waves hand at all this::
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Post by cakewench on Sept 26, 2019 10:40:51 GMT -6
Thread from Costa on Pence and Zelensky:
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Post by notblanche on Sept 26, 2019 10:41:08 GMT -6
So when do we think the announcement will come that the House recess is canceled? There is no way they can leave for 2 weeks now, right?! Do we have a budget? Or a CR? I lost track in all the ... ::waves hand at all this:: I think there's a CR through early November.
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Post by dc2london on Sept 26, 2019 10:41:22 GMT -6
I think this is way too messy period. I don't think Biden is going to make it through it. My husband thinks Biden was the sacrificial lamb to save the other candidates from Trumps shenanigans, which is a nice thought but I highly doubt that. Ok I will agree with this. Even if he didn't at this point, it is all too tangled for him to make it through successfully. I guess DT's ultimate goal of bringing Biden down was achieved??! I had this thought earlier this week (and selfishly I just don't want Biden to be the nominee, full disclosure), but my ultimate conclusion is that they are going to plull a Hillary redux no matter who the nominee is bc the Fox News viewership have been convinced that Democrats as a monolith are corrupt and the success of the Biden and Clinton smear campaigns demonstrate how little the actual facts matter. I mean, the right's portrayal of Biden's actions is literally the opposite of what is true. It doesn't matter who the nominee is, they will manufacture a scandal and 35% of the country will buy into it whole hog.
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Post by notblanche on Sept 26, 2019 10:41:45 GMT -6
cakewench apropos of nothing we have a mutual FB friend. our kids go to daycare together.
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Post by dc2london on Sept 26, 2019 10:41:52 GMT -6
So when do we think the announcement will come that the House recess is canceled? There is no way they can leave for 2 weeks now, right?! Do we have a budget? Or a CR? I lost track in all the ... ::waves hand at all this:: we have a CR until early November
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Post by cakewench on Sept 26, 2019 10:43:50 GMT -6
cakewench apropos of nothing we have a mutual FB friend. our kids go to daycare together. *runs and checks FB* OH! I know her through theatre. She's super sweet.
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Post by cakewench on Sept 26, 2019 10:46:49 GMT -6
Tom Cotton's going after Hunter:
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Post by notblanche on Sept 26, 2019 10:51:54 GMT -6
Hugh Hewitt is quite a name.
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Post by dc2london on Sept 26, 2019 10:53:16 GMT -6
Good thread on the Biden situ
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Post by dc2london on Sept 26, 2019 10:56:15 GMT -6
Hugh Hewitt is quite a name. He's an asshole. What did that petrified tube of toothpaste do now ETA Sorry I just saw he was the one tweeting about the paternity suit no1curr Hugh
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Post by dc2london on Sept 26, 2019 10:57:46 GMT -6
This combined with Trump asking about Crowdstrike while Roger Stone's trial is heating up makes me think this is allllllll about protecting his buddies
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Post by richard on Sept 26, 2019 10:59:12 GMT -6
So when do we think the announcement will come that the House recess is canceled? There is no way they can leave for 2 weeks now, right?!
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Post by dc2london on Sept 26, 2019 11:00:56 GMT -6
Apparently Schiff told a reporter that the committee will be working through recess
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Post by richard on Sept 26, 2019 11:02:18 GMT -6
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Post by athn64 on Sept 26, 2019 11:04:06 GMT -6
SO authoritarian here. My gosh. Tyrant
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