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Post by oliversbear on Jul 30, 2019 21:09:58 GMT -6
I am too lazy to read the article. Did he say why only 2? He didn’t say directly, but it came across as tying into his conservation efforts/beliefs That's what I got from what I read - more than two children is not thinking of the environment and is selfish and Dad (Prince Charles) should have taught them better.
But then I read an article linked from admittedly click-baity Yahoo Lifestyle, so it was going to take a more "brother-vs-brother" slant.
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Post by betches on Jul 30, 2019 21:20:17 GMT -6
He didn’t say directly, but it came across as tying into his conservation efforts/beliefs That's what I got from what I read - more than two children is not thinking of the environment and is selfish and Dad (Prince Charles) should have taught them better.
But then I read an article linked from admittedly click-baity Yahoo Lifestyle, so it was going to take a more "brother-vs-brother" slant.
TBH this is why I assumed it was going to get push back, it felt different than saying that’s just what we feel is best for our family or whatever. By making it an environmental issue it seems like having more than 2 kids is somehow wrong
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jul 31, 2019 6:14:21 GMT -6
Kate Middleton is celebrating the birth of her close friend's baby and is said to be overjoyed at the news.
Sophie Snuggs, who is one of Princess Charlotte's godparents, gave birth to her own daughter on Friday, June 21.
Amalia Rose Charlotte Snuggs' arrival was announced in The Times and comes just 14 months after Kate's third child Prince Louis was born
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jul 31, 2019 6:22:53 GMT -6
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Post by angelashly on Jul 31, 2019 6:41:51 GMT -6
That's what I got from what I read - more than two children is not thinking of the environment and is selfish and Dad (Prince Charles) should have taught them better.
But then I read an article linked from admittedly click-baity Yahoo Lifestyle, so it was going to take a more "brother-vs-brother" slant.
TBH this is why I assumed it was going to get push back, it felt different than saying that’s just what we feel is best for our family or whatever. By making it an environmental issue it seems like having more than 2 kids is somehow wrong But I've seen this from people that frequent this site. There are some who truly do think that having more than 2 kids is bad for the climate and stick to 1 or 2 children. I don't think they actually judge people who have more than 2, but it is their belief. It is a proven thing too so science and all that.
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Post by betches on Jul 31, 2019 6:47:30 GMT -6
TBH this is why I assumed it was going to get push back, it felt different than saying that’s just what we feel is best for our family or whatever. By making it an environmental issue it seems like having more than 2 kids is somehow wrong But I've seen this from people that frequent this site. There are some who truly do think that having more than 2 kids is bad for the climate and stick to 1 or 2 children. I don't think they actually judge people who have more than 2, but it is their belief. It is a proven thing too so science and all that. Right, I’m just saying reading it I instantly thought that some people (who are not me) will take it as a dig against their 3rd, 4th, 5th, whatever child. I refuse to have another kid after popping this second one out, so just call my Captain Planet, but my first thought was that it might not play out the way he meant it or wanted it to
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Post by auburn on Jul 31, 2019 6:58:09 GMT -6
I wonder if Meghan’s age plays into it al all. If so, that’s not something he would necessarily say. She’s 39, right?
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Post by Sundae on Jul 31, 2019 7:01:33 GMT -6
I wonder if Meghan’s age plays into it al all. If so, that’s not something he would necessarily say. She’s 39, right? She turns 38 on Sunday.
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Post by angelashly on Jul 31, 2019 7:07:31 GMT -6
I wonder if Meghan’s age plays into it al all. If so, that’s not something he would necessarily say. She’s 39, right? I think it plays partly into it, but they have the best doctors so if they really wanted more they could. I honestly feel that Harry does believe in the carbon footprint. Should he maybe have not said it sure, but I guess he doesn't mind because it is one of his causes
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jul 31, 2019 7:21:53 GMT -6
Literally me when I read the two kids thing:
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Post by kendylouwho on Jul 31, 2019 7:37:20 GMT -6
My new response when people ask why H and I are one and done is going to be "to save the planet". Thanks, Harry!
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Post by RajahMD on Jul 31, 2019 7:59:04 GMT -6
I mean, it's true though. For an individual, the worst thing you can do environmentally is have multiple children. The carbon footprint of each additional child is astronomical compared to all the other stuff we do. It's a valid reason to limit family size, and certainly not eyeroll worthy.
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Post by beatch on Jul 31, 2019 8:30:47 GMT -6
My new response when people ask why H and I are one and done is going to be "to save the planet". Thanks, Harry! H and I are having no kids so we're just a little bit better than you... For real I think it's good someone with a platform is bringing this up. I don't know that it's a factor for many people when doing their family planning, but it's good to hear it getting attention.
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Post by angelashly on Jul 31, 2019 8:40:38 GMT -6
If Harry had more than 2 kids and people knew this was his platform they would have a problem with it.
he really can't win. I think he knows that and chose to speak to his platform
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Post by sullivan on Jul 31, 2019 8:48:13 GMT -6
What happens if they get pregnant again and it’s twins? Harry is going to be in biigggg trouble.
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Post by elle on Jul 31, 2019 9:47:42 GMT -6
Environment/climate crisis is one of the reasons we're stopping at two after this one is born. We even debated over a second but ultimately decided to go ahead and have her in part because neither my sister nor my H's sister ever had children.
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Post by hardlyluck on Jul 31, 2019 10:03:58 GMT -6
I don’t think there is ANYTHING wrong with limiting the number of children you want to have because of environmental reasons, in fact it’s very altruistic. But can we also acknowledge that when someone declares that as their reasoning to someone who has more than whatever the “right” number of children is, it can come across with a pinch of superiority.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jul 31, 2019 10:05:44 GMT -6
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Post by teraiin on Jul 31, 2019 10:18:43 GMT -6
What happens if they get pregnant again and it’s twins? Harry is going to be in biigggg trouble. This is basically what happened to us (except I wanted 3 kids, h wanted two and we decided we’d see how it went with two). Then we had identical twins 😂 Of course h’s reason for not wanting more than two wasn’t mostly from an environmental standpoint (though that came up) but rather he didn’t want us to be out numbered 😅
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Post by walker88 on Jul 31, 2019 12:26:27 GMT -6
I never get the “we are only having two kids because of the environment” argument. I mean yea 2 kids are better than 8 but obviously zero kids are better than two 🤷♀️.
I don’t know. It just seems like a weird justification to me.
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Post by hardlyluck on Jul 31, 2019 12:28:49 GMT -6
I never get the “we are only having two kids because of the environment” argument. I mean yea 2 kids are better than 8 but obviously zero kids are better than two 🤷♀️. I don’t know. It just seems like a weird justification to me. Good point
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Post by beatch on Jul 31, 2019 12:46:35 GMT -6
I never get the “we are only having two kids because of the environment” argument. I mean yea 2 kids are better than 8 but obviously zero kids are better than two 🤷♀️. I don’t know. It just seems like a weird justification to me. I think the theory is you are only replacing yourselves, so you're not adding to the population. That kind of falls apart if your kids each have 5 kids, though. Or you could have the opposite happen and have 5 kids and then none of them have kids, like my parents. Sorry Mom and Dad! I don't think it's a real consideration for many people. I mean, most of my friends have 2 kids but that's because we live in a VHCOL area and nearly all of my friends work as well. I'm pretty sure it's not an environmental choice, LOL.
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Post by kendylouwho on Jul 31, 2019 13:07:47 GMT -6
My new response when people ask why H and I are one and done is going to be "to save the planet". Thanks, Harry! H and I are having no kids so we're just a little bit better than you... For real I think it's good someone with a platform is bringing this up. I don't know that it's a factor for many people when doing their family planning, but it's good to hear it getting attention. I mean it's not something that we took into consideration when making our family planning decisions, but it's a valid point. So good to bring awareness to. And now I have another "reason" (not that I need one!) when nosy people ask about if we're having more kids.
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Post by beatch on Jul 31, 2019 13:16:07 GMT -6
H and I are having no kids so we're just a little bit better than you... For real I think it's good someone with a platform is bringing this up. I don't know that it's a factor for many people when doing their family planning, but it's good to hear it getting attention. I mean it's not something that we took into consideration when making our family planning decisions, but it's a valid point. So good to bring awareness to. And now I have another "reason" (not that I need one!) when nosy people ask about if we're having more kids. Oh it has zero to do with why we're not having kids but it's always nice to have a snotty response to a rude question in your back pocket!
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Post by elle on Jul 31, 2019 13:26:57 GMT -6
I mean it's not something that we took into consideration when making our family planning decisions, but it's a valid point. So good to bring awareness to. And now I have another "reason" (not that I need one!) when nosy people ask about if we're having more kids. Oh it has zero to do with why we're not having kids but it's always nice to have a snotty response to a rude question in your back pocket! It still surprises me that in this day and age, when people should really know better, they still ask questions about having/not having children. Frankly, it's nobody's business.
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Post by walker88 on Jul 31, 2019 13:30:25 GMT -6
I never get the “we are only having two kids because of the environment” argument. I mean yea 2 kids are better than 8 but obviously zero kids are better than two 🤷♀️. I don’t know. It just seems like a weird justification to me. I think the theory is you are only replacing yourselves, so you're not adding to the population. That kind of falls apart if your kids each have 5 kids, though. Or you could have the opposite happen and have 5 kids and then none of them have kids, like my parents. Sorry Mom and Dad! I don't think it's a real consideration for many people. I mean, most of my friends have 2 kids but that's because we live in a VHCOL area and nearly all of my friends work as well. I'm pretty sure it's not an environmental choice, LOL. I guess I just find it a bit hypocritical unless you have no kids (and I have two kids myself so not judging anyone for having children). All the climate change stuff says it’s not even about maintaining the status quo - if that’s all we do we are still screwed.
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Post by elle on Jul 31, 2019 14:01:36 GMT -6
I think the theory is you are only replacing yourselves, so you're not adding to the population. That kind of falls apart if your kids each have 5 kids, though. Or you could have the opposite happen and have 5 kids and then none of them have kids, like my parents. Sorry Mom and Dad! I don't think it's a real consideration for many people. I mean, most of my friends have 2 kids but that's because we live in a VHCOL area and nearly all of my friends work as well. I'm pretty sure it's not an environmental choice, LOL. I guess I just find it a bit hypocritical unless you have no kids (and I have two kids myself so not judging anyone for having children). All the climate change stuff says it’s not even about maintaining the status quo - if that’s all we do we are still screwed. How is it hypocritical take that into consideration when planning your family? Is it also hypocritical to do meatless Mondays or find other ways to reduce your meat consumption? Don't even bother unless you're going full on vegan?
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Post by kmkd on Jul 31, 2019 14:12:03 GMT -6
I think if you’re going to make big public statements like that about what you’re going to do for the environment, then you have to really walk the walk. Private jets are maybe not a good look, in that case. For example.
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Post by hardlyluck on Jul 31, 2019 14:16:43 GMT -6
Oh it has zero to do with why we're not having kids but it's always nice to have a snotty response to a rude question in your back pocket! It still surprises me that in this day and age, when people should really know better, they still ask questions about having/not having children. Frankly, it's nobody's business. I agree 1000% that’s it’s nobody’s business! I do I promise! But it is something that I ask sometimes😬. Only to people I am in the early stages in a friendship with I guess. I don’t ask out if the blue, and I try to always have a quick disclaimer, “you don’t have to answer this if you don’t want to’ but do you guys want more kids or...? “ I’m also very open about my infertility struggles and issues with my oldest son during pregnancy, and in my experience it’s opened up a conversation that wouldn’t necessarily be had because it has been taboo for so long. If I ever sensed any hesitation from the person I was talking to I’d back off immediately. I do genuinely hope I’ve never caused anyone pain.
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Post by betches on Jul 31, 2019 14:25:36 GMT -6
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