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Post by pianolove on Apr 28, 2019 20:53:42 GMT -6
I am so happy Steve got to back to Peggy because that storyline has killed me since it happened. That said, I really thought the first scene with Nat and Steve was going to show that they were together; it was just a vibe I got. And I was sad when that didn't pan out. Many laughs to all of Cap's swearing, and the ass discussions. Every time I thought to myself "LANGUAGE!" 😂
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Post by badwolf on Apr 28, 2019 21:01:00 GMT -6
I am so happy Steve got to back to Peggy because that storyline has killed me since it happened. That said, I really thought the first scene with Nat and Steve was going to show that they were together; it was just a vibe I got. And I was sad when that didn't pan out. Many laughs to all of Cap's swearing, and the ass discussions. The people I usually ship most are the ones who end up with really crappy endings ( -cough- mischief ) so I was so happy just this once that my number #2 favorite couple got that.
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Post by mischief on Apr 28, 2019 21:18:03 GMT -6
I am so happy Steve got to back to Peggy because that storyline has killed me since it happened. That said, I really thought the first scene with Nat and Steve was going to show that they were together; it was just a vibe I got. And I was sad when that didn't pan out. Many laughs to all of Cap's swearing, and the ass discussions. Romanogers forever!!!
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Post by mischief on Apr 28, 2019 21:21:01 GMT -6
You can pry it from my cold dead hands. DID YOU SEE HIS FACE WHEN HE FOUND OUT SHE DIED!!!!
I actually thought they would be able to save her since they gave the Soul stone back before it was taken you know? Like a soul for a soul. They gave it back so Nat gets her life back. And Ill have it no other way honestly. Shes gonna show up at the compound just fine.
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Post by RajahMD on Apr 28, 2019 21:21:45 GMT -6
I AM NOT OK! *ugly cries, again*
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Post by mischief on Apr 28, 2019 21:22:32 GMT -6
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Post by badwolf on Apr 28, 2019 21:35:09 GMT -6
I’m going into the twitter verse of arguing over the time travel in this and it’s just a bad idea but I can’t stop.
Also no one is arguing over how future nebula is still around when she shot herself... ?
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Post by mischief on Apr 28, 2019 21:51:00 GMT -6
I was just going to let the time travel stuff be all hand-wavey and not give myself too much of a headache, but apparently the writers were working loosely qith the Many Worlds theories and this writer thinks they did a reasonable job of working with current high level time travel theory. qz.com/quartzy/1605534/the-time-travel-of-avengers-endgame-explained-by-scientists/Pop culture can be so educational! Still working on the whole two Caps theory myself, though. badwolf, here is some stuff about the time travel.
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Post by badwolf on Apr 28, 2019 22:10:07 GMT -6
I was just going to let the time travel stuff be all hand-wavey and not give myself too much of a headache, but apparently the writers were working loosely qith the Many Worlds theories and this writer thinks they did a reasonable job of working with current high level time travel theory. qz.com/quartzy/1605534/the-time-travel-of-avengers-endgame-explained-by-scientists/Pop culture can be so educational! Still working on the whole two Caps theory myself, though. badwolf, here is some stuff about the time travel. My head is gonna hurt isn’t it? 😛
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Post by mischief on Apr 28, 2019 22:28:50 GMT -6
badwolf , here is some stuff about the time travel. My head is gonna hurt isn’t it? 😛 Probably lol. I havent read it yet. I have it open for later. Im still at the point where everything hurts.
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Post by RajahMD on Apr 29, 2019 4:31:05 GMT -6
I’m going into the twitter verse of arguing over the time travel in this and it’s just a bad idea but I can’t stop. Also no one is arguing over how future nebula is still around when she shot herself... ? Per their rules of time travel, you can't change the past. So killing 2014 Nebula doesn't kill present Nebula, because present Nebula has already lived her past. Plus, 2014 Nebula was out of her time, in a new timeline (that was created when they retrieved the stones from 2014 and Thanks became aware of it). Her future is different than present Nebula's. Basically, Endgame made up their own rules of time travel, different than what most PIP culture uses in movies and TV shows. But apparently it's closer to what scientists actually hypothesize (and honestly, makes more sense to me).
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Post by tinyjoys on Apr 29, 2019 5:46:46 GMT -6
I did really good with not crying. And then Sam was all "hey Cap! On your left" and I lost it.
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Post by pianolove on Apr 29, 2019 7:02:26 GMT -6
Plusalso it was so nice to see Stan Lee's cameo 😭
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Post by Dramaphile on Apr 29, 2019 7:33:36 GMT -6
I have to chuckle a little at Steve encountering Red Skull on Vormir when he goes to return the soul stone...
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Post by cdnfroggy on Apr 29, 2019 8:26:33 GMT -6
I will disagree that Clint should have been the one to die, I think what happened was perfect (heartbreaking, but perfect). Nat did it because Clint has a family that loves him, something she didn't really have until the Avengers. I don't think Nat could have lived with herself knowing he left a family behind. That's just me.
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Post by pianolove on Apr 29, 2019 8:29:20 GMT -6
I will disagree that Clint should have been the one to die, I think what happened was perfect (heartbreaking, but perfect). Nat did it because Clint has a family that loves him, something she didn't really have until the Avengers. I don't think Nat could have lived with herself knowing he left a family behind. That's just me. I could get here. And her knowing all the horrible things he did and saved him anyway, just like he saved her after all the things she did, was like her wiping her ledger clean.
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Post by cdnfroggy on Apr 29, 2019 8:40:35 GMT -6
I will disagree that Clint should have been the one to die, I think what happened was perfect (heartbreaking, but perfect). Nat did it because Clint has a family that loves him, something she didn't really have until the Avengers. I don't think Nat could have lived with herself knowing he left a family behind. That's just me. I could get here. And her knowing all the horrible things he did and saved him anyway, just like he saved her after all the things she did, was like her wiping her ledger clean. I think that's a huge part of it too. He saved her, now it's her turn kind of thing.
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Post by Ls2012 on Apr 29, 2019 8:40:37 GMT -6
Saw it last night. Feel gutted. So good, but so sad.
Maybe this gets answered with the time travel stuff, but how the heck did all the snapped end up back in New York for the final battle? Is that some Dr. Strange magic going on?
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Post by greykitty on Apr 29, 2019 8:43:26 GMT -6
It occurred to me last night that time travel makes my head hurt, but where could 2024 Cap save Bucky without changing history? As Robert Redford said, the Winter Soldier 'shaped the century', for all the evil that was done to and by him. I know lots of people are saying Cap acted out of character in leaving Bucky, but it's hard for me to believe that the Russos and Markus and McFeely would have dreamt of character assassination. I think they all truly love Cap's character.
I'm not wording this well at all, but I also wonder that if somehow Cap 2024 prevented Bucky from ever being captured, encountering Zola, etc., would there have actually been a Captain America? Sure, maybe there would have been a super soldier created, but would it be the same guy who would defy orders to go after his friend? The same guy who after losing that friend would not really hesitate to put that plane into the ice to prevent the death of millions? The same guy who would eventually go to war against all his friends to save Bucky again? The guy who would stand alone against Thanos?
I'm really looking forward to interviews by the writers and directors, and really wonder if Stan and Mackie are getting talking points before their rounds of interviews start, both for the movie and the show. For me, that was the arc that has me really pondering time travel - somehow I'm getting that 2024 Nebula shooting 'old' Nebula has no effect on 2024 Nebula.
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Post by greykitty on Apr 29, 2019 8:52:33 GMT -6
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Post by pianolove on Apr 29, 2019 10:01:01 GMT -6
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Post by pianolove on Apr 29, 2019 10:09:11 GMT -6
You can pry it from my cold dead hands. DID YOU SEE HIS FACE WHEN HE FOUND OUT SHE DIED!!!! I actually thought they would be able to save her since they gave the Soul stone back before it was taken you know? Like a soul for a soul. They gave it back so Nat gets her life back. And Ill have it no other way honestly. Shes gonna show up at the compound just fine. Yes. Or when he trades the stone for her back, she decides to live a normal quiet life in a different time because she never got to have a normal life, so he brings her to the 40s or wherever he went to find Peggy, and they are neighbors and have cookouts every Sunday together. /gavel
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Post by pianolove on Apr 29, 2019 10:09:56 GMT -6
If I could write Nat, that would be my next fic.
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Post by pianolove on Apr 29, 2019 10:24:49 GMT -6
I also read a comment on twitter on how they may have teased Namor by including the line about earthquakes under the ocean during the hologram meeting. *i know 0 about namor
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Post by RajahMD on Apr 29, 2019 10:40:26 GMT -6
Check in. It's the Monday after.
AND I AM STILL NOT OK.
I need good ideas for how to repurposr my Black Widow tin for the toddler's room. Now that it's essentially a memorial, it needs to be something good. Any thoughts?
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Post by Dramaphile on Apr 29, 2019 11:31:29 GMT -6
Saw it last night. Feel gutted. So good, but so sad. Maybe this gets answered with the time travel stuff, but how the heck did all the snapped end up back in New York for the final battle? Is that some Dr. Strange magic going on? Those were portals opened by Dr Strange and his wizard people with their sling rings.
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Post by Ls2012 on Apr 29, 2019 13:27:41 GMT -6
Saw it last night. Feel gutted. So good, but so sad. Maybe this gets answered with the time travel stuff, but how the heck did all the snapped end up back in New York for the final battle? Is that some Dr. Strange magic going on? Those were portals opened by Dr Strange and his wizard people with their sling rings. I mean more how did they know there was a battle? How did they know it was in New York when they were all just in Wakanda? Is that Dr. Strange doing magic to see? They were all snuffed out and then snapped back. What kind of information was conveyed to them, and how, to know that this was even happening?
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Post by Dramaphile on Apr 29, 2019 14:13:04 GMT -6
Those were portals opened by Dr Strange and his wizard people with their sling rings. I mean more how did they know there was a battle? How did they know it was in New York when they were all just in Wakanda? Is that Dr. Strange doing magic to see? They were all snuffed out and then snapped back. What kind of information was conveyed to them, and how, to know that this was even happening? Remember Doctor Strange watched 14 million versions of the timeline and this was the only one where they won? As soon as he got snapped back, He must have assembled everyone (who were already ready for battle since they'd just fought Thanos before they got snapped)
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Post by cnf on Apr 29, 2019 14:37:33 GMT -6
I definitely thought more people would die. I'm kind of surprised there weren't more. I still haven't accepted Tony died. Nope. Shan't. I'm here on both accounts
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Post by greykitty on Apr 29, 2019 14:38:06 GMT -6
So, after Cap gave the shield to Sam, what did everyone do? All four wandered back to the cabin for coffee?
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