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Post by morecoffeeplease on Jun 30, 2017 11:09:17 GMT -6
And the timing of the National Enq. rolling out a hit piece on Joe/Mika last night/this morning should probably be looked into.
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Post by morecoffeeplease on Jun 30, 2017 11:10:52 GMT -6
@dietpepsi,he's going to Jersey for the weekend. I'm sure all of the golf will calm him down. I wonder if he's bringing Melania/Barron.
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Post by dreadpirateroberts on Jun 30, 2017 11:11:04 GMT -6
How dare millennials be responsible and wait until they're economically stable before procreating! Baby Boomers be like: How dare millenials not have kids! And then How dare people have kids and use social welfare programs!! Make up your mind. Should I just have kids or actually wait until I can afford them?
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Post by morecoffeeplease on Jun 30, 2017 11:12:30 GMT -6
Very late, but happy anniversary dc2london! And athn64 I hope your baby can go home today.
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Post by dreadpirateroberts on Jun 30, 2017 11:13:06 GMT -6
If they are really worried about fertility rates falling maybe they should make sure that insurance companies cover fucking infertility treatments. Our insurance covered nothing of our IVF cycle (which came to about $14,000) so there's no way it would be possible for us to try again if we wanted to. And honestly I would love to have another baby, but our Dr's office pushed us into transferring 2 embryos which put my pregnancy as high risk because they both stuck. Then I ended up having HG and HELLP syndrome, and I'm too afraid of having either or both of those again to even risk another pregnancy. IMHO, if our insurance had covered our IVF cycle we would have only transferred one embryo because we were already leaning towards that. But because it didn't and because we were afraid that one wouldn't take we went with 2 and then got some of the complications that go with twins. This, exactly. I was lucky that my insurance covered my meds (minus the copay) because that would have been 8k. We still paid oop for our cycle, which was 13k. We also transferred two embryos for the fear of having to go through everything again. When we go back, we're likely going to transfer two again (of our 3 frozen) because of the cost. We know we could have twins again (and another high risk pregnancy), but insurance doesn't cover transfers. And I have really good insurance. We didn't even end up with any frozen embryos, so we would have to do the whole cycle again. And we definitely can't swing another 14k.
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Post by morecoffeeplease on Jun 30, 2017 11:17:12 GMT -6
NY is another No for the voter rolls request.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 11:18:36 GMT -6
NY is another No for the voter rolls request. So is MN. I like to think my Tweet to the State SOS is what did it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 11:19:01 GMT -6
Scarborough memos, lol.
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Post by piccyami on Jun 30, 2017 11:21:51 GMT -6
This, exactly. I was lucky that my insurance covered my meds (minus the copay) because that would have been 8k. We still paid oop for our cycle, which was 13k. We also transferred two embryos for the fear of having to go through everything again. When we go back, we're likely going to transfer two again (of our 3 frozen) because of the cost. We know we could have twins again (and another high risk pregnancy), but insurance doesn't cover transfers. And I have really good insurance. We didn't even end up with any frozen embryos, so we would have to do the whole cycle again. And we definitely can't swing another 14k. Our three that we froze weren't very good quality, so there's a very real possibility that none of them survive the thaw. I don't know what our next step would be. Maybe hope my new benefits cover it?
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Post by morecoffeeplease on Jun 30, 2017 11:22:50 GMT -6
@rocksforludo , I just saw Kyle Griffin is tracking on Twitter, and a few more states are coming out Nos, or partial Nos.
edit:Utah, NC, Iowa all said they will only hand over what is already public.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 11:26:32 GMT -6
I'm seeing a lot of red states (AZ, WI and UT) respond by saying that voter rolls are public documents and will be released to whomever makes the appropriate requests and pays the fee (ha.)
But that the rolls don't contain personally protect info (ID # or SSN) and they won't be releasing those.
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Jun 30, 2017 11:32:54 GMT -6
How dare millennials be responsible and wait until they're economically stable before procreating! Millenials are *so* selfish.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 11:54:08 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 12:03:21 GMT -6
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Post by shadesofgold on Jun 30, 2017 12:07:50 GMT -6
So far nothing that seems to justify the Holder equivalent of "tick tick tick..." Unless I am missing something?
And hey, was there ever any pay off for the "tick tick tick" from Ben whats-his-name earlier this week?
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2017 12:10:56 GMT -6
Because obviously Skippy is involved. He always pops up where it makes no damn sense for him to be. Like a cat in a Christmas tree
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2017 12:12:06 GMT -6
And the timing of the National Enq. rolling out a hit piece on Joe/Mika last night/this morning should probably be looked into. The NY Mag piece makes it sound like they actually published the story on June 5
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2017 12:17:37 GMT -6
So, produce the phone records here and this is a big ol' deal. Also, Trump needs to learn not to trifle with people who are smarter than him. ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/8aef4259aaf347a1f6ef0f4e41a47b5d.jpg)
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Post by cp3 on Jun 30, 2017 12:17:45 GMT -6
I just can't believe how stupid they are. How could they not think this would come out. I know Trump is an idiot but I thought Kushner was a tad smarter.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2017 12:18:54 GMT -6
So far nothing that seems to justify the Holder equivalent of "tick tick tick..." Unless I am missing something? And hey, was there ever any pay off for the "tick tick tick" from Ben whats-his-name earlier this week? I'm assuming the Holder thing refers to something that will drop at close of business today when everyone is running off for a de facto 4 day weekend and won't pay attention. The Ben Wittes boom was last night's WSJ story
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Post by cp3 on Jun 30, 2017 12:19:07 GMT -6
Either way I am looking forward to what comes of this and what else comes out. It's all so crazy.
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Post by pesto on Jun 30, 2017 12:21:09 GMT -6
I feel very at odds with the liberal side of things now because I'm still so skeptical. That daily beast article says that Joe contacted Kushner, not the other way around. Which makes sense because Joe is on the record praising Jared. It also says the way it went down is very different from what Joe says. Jared told him to talk to the president because Joe was concerned about the story.
Also if he has receipts why doesn't he release them? I'm prepared to be totally wrong here but I feel confused about my Twitter feed shouting blackmail and Mueller should investigate and etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 12:21:47 GMT -6
So far nothing that seems to justify the Holder equivalent of "tick tick tick..." Unless I am missing something? And hey, was there ever any pay off for the "tick tick tick" from Ben whats-his-name earlier this week? I'm assuming the Holder thing refers to something that will drop at close of business today when everyone is running off for a de facto 4 day weekend and won't pay attention. The Ben Wittes boom was last night's WSJ story I should schedule a happy hour so I can have a drink in hand when it drops.
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Post by pesto on Jun 30, 2017 12:23:04 GMT -6
Here I am white knighting Jared fucking Kushner.
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Post by morecoffeeplease on Jun 30, 2017 12:24:20 GMT -6
And the timing of the National Enq. rolling out a hit piece on Joe/Mika last night/this morning should probably be looked into. The NY Mag piece makes it sound like they actually published the story on June 5 I saw some sceenshots of the NE homepage this morning, but maybe they just reupped the June 5th story with everything going on.I didn't want to give them the clicks to investigate!
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Post by pesto on Jun 30, 2017 12:24:39 GMT -6
Wowwwww this person sounds like an asshole.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2017 12:25:04 GMT -6
I feel very at odds with the liberal side of things now because I'm still so skeptical. That daily beast article says that Joe contacted Kushner, not the other way around. Which makes sense because Joe is on the record praising Jared. It also says the way it went down is very different from what Joe says. Jared told him to talk to the president because Joe was concerned about the story. Also if he has receipts why doesn't he release them? I'm prepared to be totally wrong here but I feel confused about my Twitter feed shouting blackmail and Mueller should investigate and etc. I think skepticism is healthy here. It's still he-man/he-said.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2017 12:27:23 GMT -6
Slate is pretty awful so. Yeah.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 12:29:35 GMT -6
I feel very at odds with the liberal side of things now because I'm still so skeptical. That daily beast article says that Joe contacted Kushner, not the other way around. Which makes sense because Joe is on the record praising Jared. It also says the way it went down is very different from what Joe says. Jared told him to talk to the president because Joe was concerned about the story. Also if he has receipts why doesn't he release them? I'm prepared to be totally wrong here but I feel confused about my Twitter feed shouting blackmail and Mueller should investigate and etc. Yeah, I've seen a couple different versions of it and if it's Joe texting Kushner for help and Kushner saying "why would we do that if you don't apologize" that's one thing. If it's Joe texting to say "WTF, why are you siccing the Enquirer on us!" and Kushner saying "it'll go away if your coverage gets nicer," that's another. Either way, I'd have to see real receipts/readouts to believe there were actual threats of blackmail. And if that was the case, I'd think this would've surfaced before. I do think that having the broader public know about how Trump operates with tabloids, threats, gossip, etc is good tho.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 12:38:29 GMT -6
Really, I don't care about Joe/Mika from a legal POV. I just want to know what Holder was talking about. TELL ME ERIC!
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