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Post by gussie on Feb 20, 2019 9:08:02 GMT -6
I've been thinking about the Jordyn/Kylie thing. If she is truly like a sister to Kylie, I wonder if she can forgive her. Like if Kourtney were the one who hooked up with Tristian, they wouldn't just cut her out would they? Where's the line? Is it blood only? Not saying what Kylie should or shouldn't do, just thinking out loud. I have no doubt that they would cut a sister out, but it wouldn't even happen Now that would be high drama. |
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Post by ladybrienne on Feb 20, 2019 9:08:10 GMT -6
In this situation, I’m absolutely pissed AF at Jordyn and probably cutting ties for a while. Close friends who betray trust in this way, when there are children and deep family/friend ties involved, should do better. This just isn’t acceptable to me at all.
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Post by angelashly on Feb 20, 2019 9:10:24 GMT -6
But I think you are missing everyone's point. No one here is saying that Tristan isn't to blame. In fact it has been said many of times that there is enough blame to go around. I just can't write off someone that is that close to my family as a dumb mistake I just can't I'm more speaking from kylies pov and why I wouldn't cut off my friend necessarily. I'm not saying Khloe should forgive her. But like I said above I hope Khloe places blame on Tristan and just doesn't expect Kylie to cut her off and then turn around and forgive Tristan. I think Kylie might be put in an unfair situation But why? I guess I don't understand how you could possibly be friends with someone who can cross that line with your family. I get you are saying it was a mistake, but mistakes have consequences isn't that what we teach our kids? |
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Post by icedcoffee on Feb 20, 2019 9:10:58 GMT -6
Im not saying what she did wasn't wrong. But Tristan cheated on Khloe. Jordyn didn't have some magical vagina that he fell into. He actively chose to cheat on his girlfriend and mother of his child. To me he gets blamed for cheating, not Jordyn. I don't think Khloe should still be friends with Jordyn at all. But if she takes back Tristan and still hates Jordyn I don't think that's right 🤷♀️ I've had a similar convo on here before and was the odd man out, so like I said I know it's unpopular. Tristan and Khloe have a daughter together. While I do not think that is a reason to stay together, some people find it hard to walk away from the nuclear family they’ve dreamed of. He will always be in their lives on this alone. Jordyn is to blame for this as well. Full stop. She saw firsthand the hurt and sadness Khloe was dealing with when he cheated before. And still decided to be that girl. There are way too many men to be hung up on your best friends sisters baby daddy. She knew what she was doing. I have never said she wasn't to blame. But Khloe has chosen to stay with a cheater, and is upset he cheated. I just hope she sees now that he is the problem. If it wasn't Jordyn, it would be someone else. All I'm trying to say is I hope she's not just blaming the other women and ultimately forgive him again. She doesn't have to be friends with Jordyn or trust her again. I have never implied that |
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Post by lucylou on Feb 20, 2019 9:11:07 GMT -6
You can still be mad at Jordyn without blaming her. If your friend slept with your husband, yeah your husband broke your vows and you would be most pissed at him, but you'd still be hella pissed at your friend too. There's enough anger to go around here. Just because someone isn't in a romantic relationship doesn't mean they can't betray someone. Where I'm going with this is that as Kylie, I wouldn't want to be expected to cut her off. Like I said earlier, what if Khloe takes him back? Then I lost my BFF for nothing. I don't expect Khloe not to be mad, I just hope she isn't placing all the blame on Jordyn, what with the video taking and all. So are your saying like, Khloe has the choice of whether or not to take Tristan back so shouldn’t Kylie be given the same choice of whether or not to take Jordyn back as a friend? |
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Post by icedcoffee on Feb 20, 2019 9:13:17 GMT -6
I'm more speaking from kylies pov and why I wouldn't cut off my friend necessarily. I'm not saying Khloe should forgive her. But like I said above I hope Khloe places blame on Tristan and just doesn't expect Kylie to cut her off and then turn around and forgive Tristan. I think Kylie might be put in an unfair situation But why? I guess I don't understand how you could possibly be friends with someone who can cross that line with your family. I get you are saying it was a mistake, but mistakes have consequences isn't that what we teach our kids? Of course they do. I'm not saying Kylie won't choose to do so. I just hope it gets to be her decision. And no, I would probably want to hear my friend out before automatically cutting her off. Still might do so, but I would listen first. |
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Post by icedcoffee on Feb 20, 2019 9:13:48 GMT -6
Where I'm going with this is that as Kylie, I wouldn't want to be expected to cut her off. Like I said earlier, what if Khloe takes him back? Then I lost my BFF for nothing. I don't expect Khloe not to be mad, I just hope she isn't placing all the blame on Jordyn, what with the video taking and all. So are your saying like, Khloe has the choice of whether or not to take Tristan back so shouldn’t Kylie be given the same choice of whether or not to take Jordyn back as a friend? Basically, yes lol |
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Post by spacecadet on Feb 20, 2019 9:18:03 GMT -6
But I think you are missing everyone's point. No one here is saying that Tristan isn't to blame. In fact it has been said many of times that there is enough blame to go around. I just can't write off someone that is that close to my family as a dumb mistake I just can't I'm more speaking from kylies pov and why I wouldn't cut off my friend necessarily. I'm not saying Khloe should forgive her. But like I said above I hope Khloe places blame on Tristan and just doesn't expect Kylie to cut her off and then turn around and forgive Tristan. I think Kylie might be put in an unfair situation You wouldn't be mad if your best friend was sleeping with your sister's boyfriend? If I was Kylie, she would be gone for that, I don't care what Khloe does with him in the future. She betrayed my trust and disrespected my sister. |
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Post by lucylou on Feb 20, 2019 9:19:58 GMT -6
So are your saying like, Khloe has the choice of whether or not to take Tristan back so shouldn’t Kylie be given the same choice of whether or not to take Jordyn back as a friend? Basically, yes lol I can dig that. And as an avid Kardashian watcher (lol), I would assume that if Kylie told Khloe hey look, she’s my best friend, she messed up but I’m not writing her off, that Khloe wouldn’t be like “IT’S ME OR HER!” I think she would be more like, “whatever, I don’t want to see her or hear about her but you do you.” Not saying I think Kylie should forgive her and keep her in her circle, but I do think she’ll feel like she can make her own choice. IMO, it’s probably more backlash from fans/social media that would prevent her from staying friends with Jordyn (if she wanted to) than her family. I mean, can you imagine the thousands of negative comments if they were ever photographed hanging out again? |
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Post by icedcoffee on Feb 20, 2019 9:21:04 GMT -6
I'm more speaking from kylies pov and why I wouldn't cut off my friend necessarily. I'm not saying Khloe should forgive her. But like I said above I hope Khloe places blame on Tristan and just doesn't expect Kylie to cut her off and then turn around and forgive Tristan. I think Kylie might be put in an unfair situation You wouldn't be mad if your best friend was sleeping with your sister's boyfriend? If I was Kylie, she would be gone for that, I don't care what Khloe does with him in the future. She betrayed my trust and disrespected my sister. Idk. But if it was my lifelong friend who has been trustworthy in other ways, I would at least hear her out. I wouldn't want everyone to push me to make a decision. Especially if sisters boyfriend was a known cheater |
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Post by Sweetjane on Feb 20, 2019 9:23:00 GMT -6
so what did Jordyn do then? She isn't some girl who didn't know he had a girlfriend. Made a bad choice? Was a bad friend? Fell victim to smooth talking from an experienced cheater? Idk. Like someone said above we probably won't ever get her side. Men do and say all kinds of things to cheat. I've seen situations where it isn't always that black and white. Maybe she willingly did it to hurt Khloe, but we don't know her side. What if it was Scott? Would the same apply to him if he was the third party cheater? Like how deeply tied to the family do you have to be? |
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Post by jewels on Feb 20, 2019 9:23:30 GMT -6
I'm okay having the unpopular opinion here. Ultimately, Jordyn was not in a relationship with Khloe. Tristan was. He needs to be loyal to Khloe. Jordyn doesn't owe her that. Is it shitty? Absolutely. Is it poor character? Sure. But we don't know the situation or what Tristan says to all these women. I would not do this now, but i did a lot of dumb shit in my early 20s that would horrify me to do now. Tristan is old enough and in a relationship and should know better. I just can't get on board with just writing Jordyn off immediately. 🤷♀️ WHAT???? you don't think your friends owe you loyalty? Someone you brought in your family and treated as a sister? Maybe this is why I don't have friends IRL This is my point. Close friends like that are family. My BFF knows more about my family and the interpersonal relationships etc than anyone. The betrayal of that would be awful. Add in to that the Kardashian level of fame and the mistrust they must have of EVERYONE who tries to leak stuff - the people that have that high level of trust are few and far between. My heart goes out to Kylie - I'm sure she feels like she doesn't know who she can trust anymore. And yes, Tristan is scum. But everyone knew that. I believe Kylie actually thought Jordyn was a true friend. |
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Post by icedcoffee on Feb 20, 2019 9:24:10 GMT -6
Made a bad choice? Was a bad friend? Fell victim to smooth talking from an experienced cheater? Idk. Like someone said above we probably won't ever get her side. Men do and say all kinds of things to cheat. I've seen situations where it isn't always that black and white. Maybe she willingly did it to hurt Khloe, but we don't know her side. What if it was Scott? Would the same apply to him if he was the third party cheater? Like how deeply tied to the family do you have to be? Im not sure what you mean. If she cheated with Scott would i feel the same? |
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Post by icedcoffee on Feb 20, 2019 9:24:58 GMT -6
I can dig that. And as an avid Kardashian watcher (lol), I would assume that if Kylie told Khloe hey look, she’s my best friend, she messed up but I’m not writing her off, that Khloe wouldn’t be like “IT’S ME OR HER!” I think she would be more like, “whatever, I don’t want to see her or hear about her but you do you.” Not saying I think Kylie should forgive her and keep her in her circle, but I do think she’ll feel like she can make her own choice. IMO, it’s probably more backlash from fans/social media that would prevent her from staying friends with Jordyn (if she wanted to) than her family. I mean, can you imagine the thousands of negative comments if they were ever photographed hanging out again? I agree totally |
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Post by icedcoffee on Feb 20, 2019 9:28:04 GMT -6
Look, I'm not saying if my friend cheated with MY husband I wouldn't feel betrayed. I absolutely would. And would not be her friend. But I still wouldn't blame her for MY husband cheating. But we're talking about someone a little farther removed than that. And Tristan isn't exactly a stand up guy. All I'm saying is that I would give my friend at least a chance to explain.
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Post by whoopster on Feb 20, 2019 9:29:24 GMT -6
The trust circle for the family is sooooo tiny, I feel bad for Kylie/Khloe. I would literally feel like there is no one I could trust.
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Post by donnameagle on Feb 20, 2019 9:29:38 GMT -6
I've been thinking about the Jordyn/Kylie thing. If she is truly like a sister to Kylie, I wonder if she can forgive her. Like if Kourtney were the one who hooked up with Tristian, they wouldn't just cut her out would they? Where's the line? Is it blood only? Not saying what Kylie should or shouldn't do, just thinking out loud. If my sister slept with my other sister's husband, yes, she would be cut out from my life. There are so many levels to being fucked up, but plain and clear that is an easy answer for me, lol. I mean, our mother would still love her. But her and I? Done. |
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Post by DavidRose on Feb 20, 2019 9:30:08 GMT -6
I am not sure that the "he is a known cheater" thing makes it better. If my bff knew my H was a "known cheater" I might even be more upset. Why are you putting yourself in that situation with a "known cheater?"
"known cheater"
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Post by icedcoffee on Feb 20, 2019 9:31:30 GMT -6
I am not sure that the "he is a known cheater" thing makes it better. If my bff knew my H was a "known cheater" I might even be more upset. Why are you putting yourself in that situation with a "known cheater?" "known cheater" But I'm not talking about your husband. Of course you wouldn't forgive your friend if she slept with your own husband😬😬 |
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Post by jewels on Feb 20, 2019 9:31:33 GMT -6
You can still be mad at Jordyn without blaming her. If your friend slept with your husband, yeah your husband broke your vows and you would be most pissed at him, but you'd still be hella pissed at your friend too. There's enough anger to go around here. Just because someone isn't in a romantic relationship doesn't mean they can't betray someone. Where I'm going with this is that as Kylie, I wouldn't want to be expected to cut her off. Like I said earlier, what if Khloe takes him back? Then I lost my BFF for nothing. I don't expect Khloe not to be mad, I just hope she isn't placing all the blame on Jordyn, what with the video taking and all. What I am saying though is that it's not just that she hooked up with Tristan. It's that she betrayed the family. She betrayed Kylie's trust. How is Kylie to trust her again? To be in that inner circle that few are (literally I can only think of 4 that are that "level" though there are probably more) you have to be able to be 100% trusted. If you can do this, what else can you do? |
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Post by angelashly on Feb 20, 2019 9:31:42 GMT -6
I'm more speaking from kylies pov and why I wouldn't cut off my friend necessarily. I'm not saying Khloe should forgive her. But like I said above I hope Khloe places blame on Tristan and just doesn't expect Kylie to cut her off and then turn around and forgive Tristan. I think Kylie might be put in an unfair situation You wouldn't be mad if your best friend was sleeping with your sister's boyfriend? If I was Kylie, she would be gone for that, I don't care what Khloe does with him in the future. She betrayed my trust and disrespected my sister. this |
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Post by DavidRose on Feb 20, 2019 9:33:36 GMT -6
I am not sure that the "he is a known cheater" thing makes it better. If my bff knew my H was a "known cheater" I might even be more upset. Why are you putting yourself in that situation with a "known cheater?" "known cheater" But I'm not talking about your husband. Of course you wouldn't forgive your friend if she slept with your own husband😬😬 I don't have a sister, but I imagine I would feel the same if it was my sister's H. |
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Post by McBenny on Feb 20, 2019 9:34:00 GMT -6
I have feels about the Jordyn and Tristan situation that I'm sure are unpopular and I don't really know how to express them. From Kylies end I would be very upset with my best friend, but at the same time, I would not want to lose my longtime BFF over some shitty dude. Of course she shouldn't have done it, but I think Tristan is obvi a shitty person who is always gonna cheat. He also seems to like finding ways to hurt women in emotional ways (about to give birth, family friend, etc). If I decided for myself to cut ties that's one thing, but if I felt forced to make her move out over this I would feel a way. Idk man. Tristan just sucks So you don't think Jordyn betrayed Khloe? Like she isn't just Kylie's BFF. She has been around the whole family in their homes and around their children and on trips.
My blood is my blood. You fuck over my sister then why wouldn't you fuck me over?
Remove Tristan out of the picture...this was a ratchet move by Jordyn. There are a lot of men around she didn't need to be with him. If Tristan is always going to cheat you don't need to be the bitch he does it with!!
I can't even comprehend where you are coming from. Insert Jackie Chan WTF meme here.
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Post by icedcoffee on Feb 20, 2019 9:34:22 GMT -6
Holy shit guys. I'm not saying Kylie will forgive her. All I'm saying is that I hope she can make the decision herself. Like lucylou said, Khloe can choose to get back with Tristan even after all of this. Kylie should also have a choice. I mean damn lol |
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Post by icedcoffee on Feb 20, 2019 9:35:39 GMT -6
I have feels about the Jordyn and Tristan situation that I'm sure are unpopular and I don't really know how to express them. From Kylies end I would be very upset with my best friend, but at the same time, I would not want to lose my longtime BFF over some shitty dude. Of course she shouldn't have done it, but I think Tristan is obvi a shitty person who is always gonna cheat. He also seems to like finding ways to hurt women in emotional ways (about to give birth, family friend, etc). If I decided for myself to cut ties that's one thing, but if I felt forced to make her move out over this I would feel a way. Idk man. Tristan just sucks So you don't think Jordyn betrayed Khloe? Like she isn't just Kylie's BFF. She has been around the whole family in their homes and around their children and on trips.
My blood is my blood. You fuck over my sister then why wouldn't you fuck me over?
Remove Tristan out of the picture...this was a ratchet move by Jordyn. There are a lot of men around she didn't need to be with him. If Tristan is always going to cheat you don't need to be the bitch he does it with!!
I can't even comprehend where you are coming from. Insert Jackie Chan WTF meme here.
I still would expect it to be kylies decision |
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Post by angelashly on Feb 20, 2019 9:35:49 GMT -6
WHAT???? you don't think your friends owe you loyalty? Someone you brought in your family and treated as a sister? Maybe this is why I don't have friends IRL This is my point. Close friends like that are family. My BFF knows more about my family and the interpersonal relationships etc than anyone. The betrayal of that would be awful. Add in to that the Kardashian level of fame and the mistrust they must have of EVERYONE who tries to leak stuff - the people that have that high level of trust are few and far between. My heart goes out to Kylie - I'm sure she feels like she doesn't know who she can trust anymore. And yes, Tristan is scum. But everyone knew that. I believe Kylie actually thought Jordyn was a true friend. This. Jordyn was around when Kylie was hiding her pregnancy and saw how it effected her when she had someone she thought she was friends with taking pictures and trying to sell the story. She should know better. |
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Post by jewels on Feb 20, 2019 9:36:50 GMT -6
The trust circle for the family is sooooo tiny, I feel bad for Kylie/Khloe. I would literally feel like there is no one I could trust. You said what I was thinking. But clearer, and with much fewer words. |
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Post by McBenny on Feb 20, 2019 9:38:24 GMT -6
jewels I get that. I'm just saying I would not like feeling forced into that. Tristan is what? Mid 30s? Going after a 20/21 year old girl? I don't think that's a coincidence. I wonder if girls his age aren't wanting to cheat with him anymore. We all sat here and talked about dumb shit we did with BDE when we were young. I understand Khloe or even the rest of the family not trusting her anymore. I just would hate to be Kylie in this situation. Then what if Khloe takes his ass back again? Which I think she still will. I would be like wtf, I lose my BFF and this dude just gets to stay? Idk man. I just think Tristan is a real POS Who gives a fuck if Khloe takes him back or not? For me, I would not be woe is me my friend is gone. I would be thank you for showing your ass now so I can end this relationship now.
This is not a Tristan or Jordyn thing.
If I was involved I would cancel both of them.
Cheaters will cheat but you do it with someone who I call a lil sis? nah bitch you and that hoe can go.
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Post by angelashly on Feb 20, 2019 9:38:46 GMT -6
But I'm not talking about your husband. Of course you wouldn't forgive your friend if she slept with your own husband😬😬 I don't have a sister, but I imagine I would feel the same if it was my sister's H. My BIL has been in my life since I was 16. Any friend of mine no matter how close chose to mess around with him it wouldn't be a question. Sure it would be my choice to cut her off, but if my sister said I don't want you friends with her I would do it too because we are close siblings and my blood is my blood. She wouldn't have to ask me though because it would have been done |
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Post by McBenny on Feb 20, 2019 9:39:22 GMT -6
I do feel sorry for Kylie more than Khloé. Wasn’t Tristan with someone else when he and Khloé got together? She knew what he was when she made the choice to get involved with him. And Kylie is not going to be able to make another close friend easily- I mean, in her position, if it isn’t someone from your circle forever, how will you ever really feel that they aren’t using you? And if I can't have you around my family's significant others then why would I want to be friends with you anyway? Bitch I don't trust you anymore. |
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