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Post by alwayscheese on Jan 26, 2019 23:48:20 GMT -6
Because we are quickly approaching a year. Wheee!
I only nurse DS 3-4 times a day now. I might even be able to just do twice without him wanting more. But I have no idea what I should be doing re him getting nutrition, enough liquid etc. I have so many questions I should pry go see the lactation consultant, but I thought I'd start rambling here and y'all can tell me what you're doing etc...?
If I quit nursing at a year, he shouldn't need formula, right? But should I be giving him a certain amount of cow's milk? Or a certain amount of liquid in general??
If they're supposed to have BM/formula until they're a year, how much? What if I taper to only nursing him once right before his birthday??
Like I have just had/have no plan for how long I'll nurse which is very unlike me, but I don't think I'll go much past a year for a lot of reasons. Some feel like having to buy any formula though either. I said to DH that I only nursed the baby 3 times yesterday and he reminded me to make sure DS was drinking enough water. I have wondered if DS has had fewer wet diapers recently but idk. And also he's been sick so water intake plus everything is just off anyway. And he keeps gagging/spitting/puking little bits all the time and the one day we thought was cause he drank too much too fast so then we limited his drinking a bit but now I think it's maybe mucus making him spit up. Idk all confusing.
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Post by nevertoomanyshoes on Jan 27, 2019 4:24:53 GMT -6
For daycare I will just switch to bottles of cows milk with half breast milk for a few days then quarter breast milk then just cows milk. Ill do that until he’s confident with a Sippy and then they just do milk with meals and maybe before nap if he gets into that as a routine. I’ll offer him to nurse first thing in the morning then before bed for awhile and see how that goes (he doesn’t love nursing quite the way DS1 did and sometimes doesn’t want to nurse first thing) and give a bottle/Sippy of cows milk before nap (which was our other nursing time). Then just reduce the amounts as his water intake increases. I had to “force” it with DS1, if I was in bed or pjs when he woke up he’d want to nurse, if I was in the shower or dressed he didn’t worry about it. If I was home at bed time he wanted to nurse. He stopped asking for the morning nurse around 16 months after a week of me being showered and dressed when he woke up, the bedtime one I “forced” by hiding in the bedroom at bedtime (I was “at the shops”) at 22 months.
Once he’s one, If he’s eating heaps of yoghurt and cheese then I won’t worry about how much cows milk he gets that much, as long as he’s having some each day. DS1 ate yoghurt daily but wouldn’t really eat cheese. I kept the bottle/Sippy of cows milk before bed going for awhile, as it helped him sleep longer at night (he didn’t STTN until 15-16 months).
Like you, I feel pretty done. Especially with pumping. He’s not nursing much now and the health nurse we saw last week was pretty meh about it. She said at this age 2-3 times was totally fine and it was ok If that started to reduce over the next two months.
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Post by nevertoomanyshoes on Jan 27, 2019 4:52:48 GMT -6
Also DS1 did not eat a lot of solids at one, so nursing morning and night (and MOTN too for awhile) and he was a small kid so it was more of a needed the calories thing (combined with nursing was his main comfort thing too).
This kid is all about the solids and water and the sips of cows milk I give him now and I don’t see that I’ll be stressing about calories in and gaining with him. He sucks his thumb and nursing hasn’t really been a comfort thing for him either. He’s been on a nursing strike of late and is still gaining fine so I can see that he’s already replacing nursing calories with food calories on his own.
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Post by clementine on Jan 27, 2019 6:41:40 GMT -6
Yes, I need this thread too. I don’t plan to stop nursing just yet, unless L wants to. But I’m clueless on how to go about transitioning to primarily solids. He’s doing great with solids, but still nursing 5-6 times a day 😬
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Post by alwayscheese on Jan 27, 2019 8:06:33 GMT -6
For daycare I will just switch to bottles of cows milk with half breast milk for a few days then quarter breast milk then just cows milk. Ill do that until he’s confident with a Sippy and then they just do milk with meals and maybe before nap if he gets into that as a routine. Thanks nevertoomanyshoes! Very helpful. Well you start the quoted after he turns one or before? |
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Post by Leaf 🌱 on Jan 27, 2019 8:31:45 GMT -6
For daycare I will just switch to bottles of cows milk with half breast milk for a few days then quarter breast milk then just cows milk. Ill do that until he’s confident with a Sippy and then they just do milk with meals and maybe before nap if he gets into that as a routine. Thanks nevertoomanyshoes! Very helpful. Well you start the quoted after he turns one or before? I start around 11.5 mos or even earlier but transition more slowly. |
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Post by Leaf 🌱 on Jan 27, 2019 8:36:07 GMT -6
Also remember that cows milk isn’t the only option - I think 3-5 servings of dairy is what is recommended for most 12mo kids so that can be yogurt, cheese, etc. it’s just the far, calories, calcium, etc they need. Milk is just easiest.
We’ll drop bottles at a year too - I’ve found it’s just easier to do both transitions at once.
I don’t want o wean but I am SO EXCITED to cut back onnpumoing at work. I’m still pumping 2-3 times a day (depending on my boobs and how late I’m working) and it’ll be nice to cut down to 1-2 times/day next month. I’m hoping to keep up nursing morning/night as long as she’s interested.
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Post by nevertoomanyshoes on Jan 28, 2019 1:07:52 GMT -6
For daycare I will just switch to bottles of cows milk with half breast milk for a few days then quarter breast milk then just cows milk. Ill do that until he’s confident with a Sippy and then they just do milk with meals and maybe before nap if he gets into that as a routine. Thanks nevertoomanyshoes! Very helpful. Well you start the quoted after he turns one or before? Probably literally the day after he turns one. He turns one in my day off then daycare the next day. But that depends how pumping is going. If it’s a week or so before then so be it. |
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Post by yianna on Jan 28, 2019 2:04:08 GMT -6
Alina is 9.5m and daycare is already transitioning her off bottles and on sippy cups.
We continue to nurse on demand and I pump 3x at work. She does get supplemented from time to time.
Breastmilk/Formula should still be at 19-28 ounces a day until 1. Then you can taper down. They need less cows milk or whatever milk you’ll use at that point. I think we still did a bottle before bed at 1 with my bottle babies and were all sippy or breastfeeding only. We wean fast off the bottle here - with that bedtime bottle gone by 15m. If baby is still nursing the bedtime nursing is cut last if/when we wean.
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Post by mintyblueair on Jan 28, 2019 8:25:52 GMT -6
Our doctor says milk can be introduced as early as 9 months.
With my son I waited till he was one to stop formula and switch to homo milk in a sippy cup (we kept a bedtime bottle of milk until he was 18 months though). I would give him some milk in a sippy here and there before one.
This baby has lost a lot of interest in her bottles. There are days where she completely rejects her mid morning bottle. I've given her milk in a sippy cup with her lunch to replace those fluids. She prefers milk to formula by quite a bit, it seems!
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Post by calendula on Jan 28, 2019 8:31:02 GMT -6
L is losing interest in bottles for sure--most of them end up unfinished. I'll start dropping bottles soon. She's taking in 24 ounces of formula daily (down from about 30--she dropped nighttime and evening cluster feeding awhile ago) plus a strong intake of solid foods and she uses straw cups very well.
I'll probably drop the daytime bottles first and transition at the same time to small cups of WCM at meals and snacks. Wakeup and bedtime bottles will be last to go.
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Post by clementine on Jan 28, 2019 8:47:24 GMT -6
Is there any reason to or not to keep giving BM as we transition from bottle to cup? I have quite a bit of frozen BM, and it physically pains me to think of it going to waste. Would it be more beneficial or nutritious to continue BM if we can? Will it make the transition to WCM more difficult later on? I do plan on continuing to nurse at wake up and bedtime for a while longer, as long as he wants to.
I have thought about donating it, but I need to look into that a little more.
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Post by calendula on Jan 28, 2019 9:17:17 GMT -6
Is there any reason to or not to keep giving BM as we transition from bottle to cup? I have quite a bit of frozen BM, and it physically pains me to think of it going to waste. Would it be more beneficial or nutritious to continue BM if we can? Will it make the transition to WCM more difficult later on? I do plan on continuing to nurse at wake up and bedtime for a while longer, as long as he wants to. I have thought about donating it, but I need to look into that a little more. I would definitely use it, if you have it and donating isn't something you pursue. If you're worried about making sure he develops a taste for WCM, you can always include both in his diet. Nothing has to be exclusive  |
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Post by sunshinedaisies on Jan 28, 2019 15:01:12 GMT -6
Is there any reason to or not to keep giving BM as we transition from bottle to cup? I have quite a bit of frozen BM, and it physically pains me to think of it going to waste. Would it be more beneficial or nutritious to continue BM if we can? Will it make the transition to WCM more difficult later on? I do plan on continuing to nurse at wake up and bedtime for a while longer, as long as he wants to. I have thought about donating it, but I need to look into that a little more. I had leftover BM with DS1 and we just continued giving him a bottle at bed until we ran out (around 14-15 months). We had otherwise transitioned him to WCM and a sippy for all other drinks. I liked that he was continuing to get some BM past one since I had otherwise stopped nursing by that point. He didn’t care that some were BM and some were WCM. |
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Post by sunshinedaisies on Jan 28, 2019 15:04:42 GMT -6
I’ve been wondering about this too. I nursed L for the last time on Saturday. My supply completely tanked in the last few weeks and it was just silly to keep going since I was getting less than an ounce at each pump. It sucks because he definitely was not ready. We are currently working our way through all of the frozen BM but I’m not really sure what to do when that runs out. He turns 1 in five weeks and I think we will be a few weeks shy of that when the milk runs out so I’m thinking of just transitioning him a few weeks early to WCM. It seems silly to buy formula for like 2 weeks.
Also we are still doing 5 bottles a day. Is that too much? The kid eats ALL the time but he always seems hungry. And he finishes every bottle.
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Post by mrsmonogrammed on Jan 28, 2019 17:26:06 GMT -6
I’ve been wondering about this too. I nursed L for the last time on Saturday. My supply completely tanked in the last few weeks and it was just silly to keep going since I was getting less than an ounce at each pump. It sucks because he definitely was not ready. We are currently working our way through all of the frozen BM but I’m not really sure what to do when that runs out. He turns 1 in five weeks and I think we will be a few weeks shy of that when the milk runs out so I’m thinking of just transitioning him a few weeks early to WCM. It seems silly to buy formula for like 2 weeks. Also we are still doing 5 bottles a day. Is that too much? The kid eats ALL the time but he always seems hungry. And he finishes every bottle. You could continue nursing if you want to, sometimes babies like it for comfort even if they aren’t getting anything. But remember that babies are always better at removing milk than pumps are so he is likely getting at least a little something. In regards to your freezer stash, I would probably just introduce WCM a few weeks early. He might have a hard transition so I would add in an ounce or 2 at first and then slowly increase to mostly WCM and an ounce or 2 of BM. 😊 |
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Post by clementine on Jan 28, 2019 18:17:48 GMT -6
So when you say you are dropping a bottle/feeding, are you giving a sippy of milk at that feeding time instead? Or just giving milk at meal times?
I’ve been giving L water in a cup with meals, and he drinks probably less than 1 oz at each meal. I figured once he was nursing less and taking fewer bottles, I’d start giving milk with meals and give some water in between meals? But should I be substituting a sippy of milk for dropped feedings?
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Post by snowmoon on Jan 28, 2019 18:30:36 GMT -6
I go back to work in about 6 weeks. Right now, E is still nursing 6-8 times a day and once or twice overnight. I'm trying to night wean/sleep train this week though since my work schedule includes overnight shifts. I feel like the pressure is on to get through this so SO doesn't have to deal with it. This kid is ATTACHED and seperation anxiety is in full swing.
The alternating weeks of my schedule when I'm not on nights are 2 or 3 (depending on the week) consecutive 12 hour days. I was never able to get E to take a bottle but the last few times I've been gone for more than a few hours she'll take 2ish ounces of pumped milk from and open cup. I have no plans to wean completely any time soon, so I'll definitely need to pump on the days that I'm working-if only to relieve engorgement. I'm worried though that I should actually be pumping enough to leave her a few cups per work day. I don't have any frozen right now and I hate pumping. I'm also pretty sure I won't have the time to pump 3 times a day at work. She eats like a bird when I'm around but my mom has told me she eats a ton if nursing isn't an option. Though I haven't been away from her for more than 3-4 hours. She also hasn't been able to handle baked in dairy at all yet so I'm pretty sure we won't be doing wcm and I don't know if there's an alternative plant milk that has enough fat.
Sorry for the novel, I'm trying not to stress but it isn't working haha.
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Post by calendula on Jan 29, 2019 8:44:35 GMT -6
So when you say you are dropping a bottle/feeding, are you giving a sippy of milk at that feeding time instead? Or just giving milk at meal times? I’ve been giving L water in a cup with meals, and he drinks probably less than 1 oz at each meal. I figured once he was nursing less and taking fewer bottles, I’d start giving milk with meals and give some water in between meals? But should I be substituting a sippy of milk for dropped feedings? My plan is just to move to WCM with meals. No need to offer a sippy of milk. The only exception might be before bed but even that is something I'll try to move away from since the sugar on their teeth overnight isn't great. |
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Post by leatherpants on Jan 29, 2019 11:42:24 GMT -6
So when you say you are dropping a bottle/feeding, are you giving a sippy of milk at that feeding time instead? Or just giving milk at meal times? I’ve been giving L water in a cup with meals, and he drinks probably less than 1 oz at each meal. I figured once he was nursing less and taking fewer bottles, I’d start giving milk with meals and give some water in between meals? But should I be substituting a sippy of milk for dropped feedings? My plan is just to move to WCM with meals. No need to offer a sippy of milk. The only exception might be before bed but even that is something I'll try to move away from since the sugar on their teeth overnight isn't great. This is my plan. He already has a bit of milk or water with meals in a straw cup. Once we get to a year, I plan on just giving him milk at meals and start not offering nursing when he wakes up at naps. Then we should keep nursing at morning and before bed and solids and milk for the rest of the day. Best laid plans, right? L weaned himself off of those sessions within 3 months so we’ll see. I’m a bit looking forward to weaning. Nursing has been hard this time. I just want to get him to a year and we are so close. |
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Post by leatherpants on Jan 29, 2019 11:55:48 GMT -6
I go back to work in about 6 weeks. Right now, E is still nursing 6-8 times a day and once or twice overnight. I'm trying to night wean/sleep train this week though since my work schedule includes overnight shifts. I feel like the pressure is on to get through this so SO doesn't have to deal with it. This kid is ATTACHED and seperation anxiety is in full swing. The alternating weeks of my schedule when I'm not on nights are 2 or 3 (depending on the week) consecutive 12 hour days. I was never able to get E to take a bottle but the last few times I've been gone for more than a few hours she'll take 2ish ounces of pumped milk from and open cup. I have no plans to wean completely any time soon, so I'll definitely need to pump on the days that I'm working-if only to relieve engorgement. I'm worried though that I should actually be pumping enough to leave her a few cups per work day. I don't have any frozen right now and I hate pumping. I'm also pretty sure I won't have the time to pump 3 times a day at work. She eats like a bird when I'm around but my mom has told me she eats a ton if nursing isn't an option. Though I haven't been away from her for more than 3-4 hours. She also hasn't been able to handle baked in dairy at all yet so I'm pretty sure we won't be doing wcm and I don't know if there's an alternative plant milk that has enough fat. Sorry for the novel, I'm trying not to stress but it isn't working haha. Stress is the name of the game I’ve heard goats milk is similar to human milk - I don’t know if that’s true but maybe something to look into? I also think it’s encouraging that she eats more when nursing isn’t an option. She isn’t going to let herself starve so it’ll all work out! |
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Post by leatherpants on Jan 29, 2019 11:57:13 GMT -6
I guess that isn’t helpful at all snowmoon but I do think it will work out. I always get myself into those mental circles about how things are going to work and what if’s and he doesn’t do this and then somehow it always seem to work out. So I totally believe you guys will sort it out ❤️ Good luck! |
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Post by whatsit on Jan 29, 2019 14:49:28 GMT -6
I go back to work in about 6 weeks. Right now, E is still nursing 6-8 times a day and once or twice overnight. I'm trying to night wean/sleep train this week though since my work schedule includes overnight shifts. I feel like the pressure is on to get through this so SO doesn't have to deal with it. This kid is ATTACHED and seperation anxiety is in full swing. The alternating weeks of my schedule when I'm not on nights are 2 or 3 (depending on the week) consecutive 12 hour days. I was never able to get E to take a bottle but the last few times I've been gone for more than a few hours she'll take 2ish ounces of pumped milk from and open cup. I have no plans to wean completely any time soon, so I'll definitely need to pump on the days that I'm working-if only to relieve engorgement. I'm worried though that I should actually be pumping enough to leave her a few cups per work day. I don't have any frozen right now and I hate pumping. I'm also pretty sure I won't have the time to pump 3 times a day at work. She eats like a bird when I'm around but my mom has told me she eats a ton if nursing isn't an option. Though I haven't been away from her for more than 3-4 hours. She also hasn't been able to handle baked in dairy at all yet so I'm pretty sure we won't be doing wcm and I don't know if there's an alternative plant milk that has enough fat. Sorry for the novel, I'm trying not to stress but it isn't working haha. Stress is the name of the game I’ve heard goats milk is similar to human milk - I don’t know if that’s true but maybe something to look into? I also think it’s encouraging that she eats more when nursing isn’t an option. She isn’t going to let herself starve so it’ll all work out! I’ve heard that about goats milk too. And that it doesn’t have lactose so... |
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Post by whatsit on Jan 29, 2019 14:52:11 GMT -6
Oh hi.
I definitely felt overwhelmed reading this thread. I have no idea how this will go. I never did nurse my first( latching/supply issues) so this will be different. She still nurses around 6 times a day so I’ll have to take that into account too I guess.
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Post by snowmoon on Jan 29, 2019 22:40:45 GMT -6
I guess that isn’t helpful at all snowmoon but I do think it will work out. I always get myself into those mental circles about how things are going to work and what if’s and he doesn’t do this and then somehow it always seem to work out. So I totally believe you guys will sort it out ❤️ Good luck! I know she'll be ok and I'm needlessly anxious. She'll be home with her daddy, so that eases my mind. |
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Post by leatherpants on Jan 29, 2019 22:45:40 GMT -6
I guess that isn’t helpful at all snowmoon but I do think it will work out. I always get myself into those mental circles about how things are going to work and what if’s and he doesn’t do this and then somehow it always seem to work out. So I totally believe you guys will sort it out ❤️ Good luck! I know she'll be ok and I'm needlessly anxious. She'll be home with her daddy, so that eases my mind. To be fair, I’m much more zen about other people’s stuff and freak out about mine. |
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Post by sweetc129 on Feb 3, 2019 6:23:30 GMT -6
I’ve tried to do the half and half BM and WCM, but my girls didn’t like it for awhile, but eventually drank it. J never took a bottle. I’ve been gradually increasing his cheese and yogurt intake. The next couple weeks I’ll try him on WCM and see how he takes in a sippy. My mom’s pedi gave her the ok to give me WCM at like 4m, so I’m not worried about my 11m old drinkingnit while I try and wean. I’ve tried to cut a nursing session here and there and J isn’t happy about it.
I never stressed about specific amount of cows milk. As long as I felt the kids were eating enough dairy and a well rounded diet once they turned 1.
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