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Post by elle on Jan 9, 2019 13:17:08 GMT -6
Congrats dashook !!!!! Can’t wait for pictures! Also, three pushes sounds kind of amazing. Would mind that one single bit. I got A out in three pushes but they made me wait over 40 minutes between my practice push and the two to get her out because my doctor wasn't at the hospital yet.
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Post by tgrimes on Jan 9, 2019 13:45:20 GMT -6
After reading all of these pushing times of the successful vaginal deliveries you all have had I’m pretty disgusted by my hospital. You have two hours to push before c section prep starts. It’s their hard line policy. And makes NO sense. <iframe width="36.07999999999993" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 36.07999999999993px; height: 2.9200000000000017px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_9205439" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="36.07999999999993" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 36.08px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1731px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_21663987" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="36.07999999999993" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 36.08px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_54525049" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="36.07999999999993" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 36.08px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1731px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_20439702" scrolling="no"></iframe> Yeah, that's ridiculous.
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Post by elle on Jan 9, 2019 13:49:59 GMT -6
After reading all of these pushing times of the successful vaginal deliveries you all have had I’m pretty disgusted by my hospital. You have two hours to push before c section prep starts. It’s their hard line policy. And makes NO sense. That doesn't make sense at all.
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Post by starbuck on Jan 9, 2019 19:24:55 GMT -6
After reading all of these pushing times of the successful vaginal deliveries you all have had I’m pretty disgusted by my hospital. You have two hours to push before c section prep starts. It’s their hard line policy. And makes NO sense. wut? This kind of policy seems more for the benefits of the docs than the patient.
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Post by sophiegrace on Jan 9, 2019 19:55:22 GMT -6
After reading all of these pushing times of the successful vaginal deliveries you all have had I’m pretty disgusted by my hospital. You have two hours to push before c section prep starts. It’s their hard line policy. And makes NO sense. wut? This kind of policy seems more for the benefits of the docs than the patient. Absolutely. Automatic inductions get scheduled if you hit 40 weeks, Twin moms have no choice except a c section at 36 weeks if they make it that far, no walking the halls, every single person gets an IV, gestational diabetes diagnosis gets you a 37 week induction even if you kept everything well managed, and on and on and on. I’m really hoping with the MFM getting established here that some if not all of these things change. It’s borderline barbaric.
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Post by goldenlove on Jan 9, 2019 21:00:09 GMT -6
wut? This kind of policy seems more for the benefits of the docs than the patient. Absolutely. Automatic inductions get scheduled if you hit 40 weeks, Twin moms have no choice except a c section at 36 weeks if they make it that far, no walking the halls, every single person gets an IV, gestational diabetes diagnosis gets you a 37 week induction even if you kept everything well managed, and on and on and on. I’m really hoping with the MFM getting established here that some if not all of these things change. It’s borderline barbaric. Yikes. That is crazy!
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Post by jubilantsquirrel on Jan 9, 2019 21:16:27 GMT -6
wut? This kind of policy seems more for the benefits of the docs than the patient. Absolutely. Automatic inductions get scheduled if you hit 40 weeks, Twin moms have no choice except a c section at 36 weeks if they make it that far, no walking the halls, every single person gets an IV, gestational diabetes diagnosis gets you a 37 week induction even if you kept everything well managed, and on and on and on. I’m really hoping with the MFM getting established here that some if not all of these things change. It’s borderline barbaric. It really sounds like they're only focused on the $$$. That's insane.
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Post by starbuck on Jan 10, 2019 7:33:26 GMT -6
wut? This kind of policy seems more for the benefits of the docs than the patient. Absolutely. Automatic inductions get scheduled if you hit 40 weeks, Twin moms have no choice except a c section at 36 weeks if they make it that far, no walking the halls, every single person gets an IV, gestational diabetes diagnosis gets you a 37 week induction even if you kept everything well managed, and on and on and on. I’m really hoping with the MFM getting established here that some if not all of these things change. It’s borderline barbaric. I...would not have shown up for a 36w section with the twins. Like lol Come get me.
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Post by danib on Jan 10, 2019 7:36:03 GMT -6
Absolutely. Automatic inductions get scheduled if you hit 40 weeks, Twin moms have no choice except a c section at 36 weeks if they make it that far, no walking the halls, every single person gets an IV, gestational diabetes diagnosis gets you a 37 week induction even if you kept everything well managed, and on and on and on. I’m really hoping with the MFM getting established here that some if not all of these things change. It’s borderline barbaric. I...would not have shown up for a 36w section with the twins. Like lol Come get me. That's a good point. They can't actually force any of these things. You have to consent right? So what happens if you refuse? They can't refuse to provide care right? That would go against the Hippocratic (sp?) Oath?
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Post by starbuck on Jan 10, 2019 7:40:15 GMT -6
I...would not have shown up for a 36w section with the twins. Like lol Come get me. That's a good point. They can't actually force any of these things. You have to consent right? So what happens if you refuse? They can't refuse to provide care right? That would go against the Hippocratic (sp?) Oath? They probably just strong arm and scare the shit out of people to get them to agree "don't you want a healthy child?" Or present it as "this is how it's done, sign here" and don't give room for discussion.
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Post by starbuck on Jan 10, 2019 7:42:48 GMT -6
The MFM with the twins leaned heavily towards the at 36w you need to get yourself induced way of doing things. Luckily my crunchy hippy OBs were in no rush. At my 38w induction, I saw a different doc than usual from my practice, and he was like "why are we inducing?" lol but by 38w it felt like time.
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Post by sophiegrace on Jan 10, 2019 12:13:05 GMT -6
That's a good point. They can't actually force any of these things. You have to consent right? So what happens if you refuse? They can't refuse to provide care right? That would go against the Hippocratic (sp?) Oath? They probably just strong arm and scare the shit out of people to get them to agree "don't you want a healthy child?" Or present it as "this is how it's done, sign here" and don't give room for discussion. Mostly this. I think there’s a lot of taking advantage of women when they’re at their most vulnerable. Start throwing the health and viability of their baby in their face a most will just go ahead and do what you want. I was lucky in that my induction was for a normal and legitimate induction reason, not sure what happens when someone actually goes against their guidelines and whether they have legitimate power (I’m guessing not) to do anything about it. FWIW it’s the hospital’s policy and not the doctors’. Doctors don’t have any say in just about any policy making decision at our hospital system, it’s all insurance and revenue based.
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Post by kleigh on Jan 10, 2019 13:51:40 GMT -6
The MFM with the twins leaned heavily towards the at 36w you need to get yourself induced way of doing things. Luckily my crunchy hippy OBs were in no rush. At my 38w induction, I saw a different doc than usual from my practice, and he was like "why are we inducing?" lol but by 38w it felt like time. I didn’t have an MFM but this is one of two reasons I picked the practice I did. After researching, they were the only ones in my area that were willing to (a) attempt vaginal with twins, (b) attempt breach delivery of B (which obvi ended up needing to happen to avoid a caection) and (c) did not require me to be induced at a certain point. At 37 weeks they were all “well, I guess we should prob start to talk about induction”... which they scheduled for 39+4... even the day i was induced, it was more of a “they’re really ok now, you wanna do this?” bc I had some protein (minimal) in my urine and extremely bad leg pain ETA: reason 2 was bc the other OB who I started with, but did not deliver my babies, had delivered my sisters second via VBAC which i watched how calm he was under a lot of pressure.. And when I say every other doc would’ve called it, yes every there doc would’ve called it but he gave my sister the decision and explained the concerns. Ultimately, they did it with zero complication except for se of forceps. They will do everything they can to give baby and you the chance, without stepping over the line of danger.
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Post by cookswithwine on Jan 10, 2019 13:58:44 GMT -6
kleigh I am still amazed they were willing to deliver a breech (twin) baby vaginally. When I found out O was breech at 37 weeks the first thing they said to me was, when do you want your c section scheduled? I tried the version which they thought was extreme and ultimately failed anyway. I heard of 1 doc in my entire city that was willing to try a vaginal delivery but my current OBs strongly advised me against it.
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Post by kleigh on Jan 10, 2019 14:03:05 GMT -6
kleigh I am still amazed they were willing to deliver a breech (twin) baby vaginally. When I found out O was breech at 37 weeks the first thing they said to me was, when do you want your c section scheduled? I tried the version which they thought was extreme and ultimately failed anyway. I heard of 1 doc in my entire city that was willing to try a vaginal delivery but my current OBs strongly advised me against it. They will only do it with twins, and only if it’s Baby B that’s breech, and only if they think Baby B is no bigger than Baby A. Reason being, they think that delivering A would create enough “room” for Baby B to be born that way. It’s definitely risky, but they were confident she was smaller than him (and she ended up being 9 Oz smaller)
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Post by kleigh on Jan 10, 2019 14:04:12 GMT -6
cookswithwine How are you feeling about VBAC? Is it something you want or are you content with another CS? I know people on both sides emotionally.
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Post by cookswithwine on Jan 10, 2019 18:33:13 GMT -6
kleigh oh ok, I didn’t know there was conditions. If you would have asked me before I had my C with O I would have said absolutely. They had already told me I’m a canidate for a VBAC assuming no complications arise 2nd time around. But now I am not so sure. I think it’s the known vs unknown. I’ve done a C and it wasn’t terrible, I could do it again. A vaginal birth is unknown. I need to do more research. I heard there are a lot of rules for a VBAC, like no intervention (pitocin, etc.). I think the biggest risk is that your uterine scar breaks open and that is catostropic. I’m going to talk to my OB about it. She had a breech baby and opted for a repeat C though. I feel like OBs are like cops though in that they have seen the worst so that’s what they think will happen.
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