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Post by jaygee on Dec 5, 2019 14:29:24 GMT -6
It has to be stressful for the stuff with Hunter to be so public and filled with such partisan venom. I can understand that it must make him ragey. But damn, Uncle Joe, you have to be ready for this stuff. How does the frontrunner have such an incompetent team? It makes me wonder if he is just ignoring his team, which is also problematic, if the case. I believe he'd be arrogant enough to ignore his team more than I believe he'd have such an incompetent team. I have a strong feeling that Biden thinks this is all owed to him. He should just cruise to the nom because he’s Joe and Obama proximity and why does he have to listen to young whippersnappers with their optics and social media malarkey? Yeah, I used malarkey. |
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Post by enchanted on Dec 5, 2019 14:54:59 GMT -6
As much as I'm shaking my head at the stupidity, I also kind of hope, should he be the nominee, he challenges 45 to one on the debate stage just to watch that orange lint ball either bluster his way out of it and get mocked or fail and get mocked. And I'm not usually one to mock others for not being able to do physical things, but unless he has a doctor lying about his physicals for him*, then he can totally do more push-ups than Uncle Joe. *Spoiler alert! |
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Post by Minerva on Dec 5, 2019 15:19:31 GMT -6
It has to be stressful for the stuff with Hunter to be so public and filled with such partisan venom. I can understand that it must make him ragey. But damn, Uncle Joe, you have to be ready for this stuff. How does the frontrunner have such an incompetent team? It makes me wonder if he is just ignoring his team, which is also problematic, if the case. I believe he'd be arrogant enough to ignore his team more than I believe he'd have such an incompetent team. I think he may have a lot of internal division on his team, even if they are all individually hyper-competent. |
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Post by Dr. Cox on Dec 5, 2019 16:18:52 GMT -6
BRB, gonna go donate some more to Julián.
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 5, 2019 16:25:23 GMT -6
BRB, gonna go donate some more to Julián. I may have lost it on a text today at his team.
to be fair it was the THIRD text in less than 24 hours AFTER I donated asking me to donate again.
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Post by ladybrienne on Dec 5, 2019 17:33:14 GMT -6
I just saw the, "You're a damn liar" video on Twitter and lots of replies saying, "Finally Joe gets tough!" I guess this is what some people want I dont think it was tough, I think its disrespectful.
could just be me tho
I had to tell one of my guys he HAD to wear a jacket AND tie to be in a ceremony to accept an award from the governor tho...Because thats what you DO
I think the push-up thing was dumb but I do think in general democrats need to be tougher? I think the best example I can come up with is Nancy Pelosi today. Because holy shit go girl. I’m not going to go after joe for calling the guy a damn liar though. I’m with him on that. That’s his kid. But the push up stuff? Meh. I can do without that. Dumb. |
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 5, 2019 17:46:58 GMT -6
I dont think it was tough, I think its disrespectful.
could just be me tho
I had to tell one of my guys he HAD to wear a jacket AND tie to be in a ceremony to accept an award from the governor tho...Because thats what you DO
I think the push-up thing was dumb but I do think in general democrats need to be tougher? I think the best example I can come up with is Nancy Pelosi today. Because holy shit go girl. I’m not going to go after joe for calling the guy a damn liar though. I’m with him on that. That’s his kid. But the push up stuff? Meh. I can do without that. Dumb. I think there is a wide difference between anger shown with nancy and joe. Nancy is able to keep her calm and still show her...disdain without getting all wound up. And yes she has HAD to because she is a woman and any emotion from a woman usedtobe/stillIS a sign of weakness. But she does righteous anger without the stooping very well. When Joe did what he did today, it just seems nasty. Honestly it reminds me of Shouty and Co. it may be that joe just eats crackers for me too. I will have to think on it |
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Post by dc2london on Dec 5, 2019 18:02:59 GMT -6
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Post by Uncaripswife on Dec 5, 2019 18:03:59 GMT -6
I've gone from "he's not my favorite" to "wow, I kinda hate him." |
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Post by dc2london on Dec 5, 2019 18:05:22 GMT -6
So I saw the full Biden video and IDK. I think the push up /IQ test thing was 100% a joke, and it wasn't a bad one. And while I like a lot of decorum from a POTUS, that's clearly not what most voters want. And tbh, that's not who Joe Biden has ever been.
Upon further review, I'm less irked by the whole thing. "You're a damn liar" feels too personal, I would have referred, "Those are damn lies." But there is something to be said for letting Bartlet be Bartlet.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 5, 2019 18:06:14 GMT -6
*disclaimer: I get sucked into the old Uncle Joe affection so it's possible I'm just feeling badly that he's getting attacked with bullshit
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Post by ladybrienne on Dec 5, 2019 18:32:32 GMT -6
I think the push-up thing was dumb but I do think in general democrats need to be tougher? I think the best example I can come up with is Nancy Pelosi today. Because holy shit go girl. I’m not going to go after joe for calling the guy a damn liar though. I’m with him on that. That’s his kid. But the push up stuff? Meh. I can do without that. Dumb. I think there is a wide difference between anger shown with nancy and joe. Nancy is able to keep her calm and still show her...disdain without getting all wound up. And yes she has HAD to because she is a woman and any emotion from a woman usedtobe/stillIS a sign of weakness. But she does righteous anger without the stooping very well. When Joe did what he did today, it just seems nasty. Honestly it reminds me of Shouty and Co. it may be that joe just eats crackers for me too. I will have to think on it Joe eats crackers for me too. But I’m not going to dog the guy for being upset about people attacking his son. The push up shit is out of line, but feel free to call out people for being liars because all of that crap is ridiculous and based on conspiracy theories. |
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Post by ladybrienne on Dec 5, 2019 18:35:08 GMT -6
I’m just so over the GOP pushing all these false conspiracy theories. It affects people’s families. Look at what the obamas had to endure at the hands of that party. I’m over it. Democrats need to start calling people what they are when they do that shit, liars.
I still don’t like joe very much.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 5, 2019 18:56:37 GMT -6
I feel utterly adrift since Kamala dropped out and I don't like it.
I'm hoping someone will light a fire in me at the December debate.
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Post by 4PrivetDrive on Dec 5, 2019 20:10:11 GMT -6
According to the email I just got Castro has hit 200k unique donors, so 1 of 2 requirements for the next debate.
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Post by elle on Dec 5, 2019 20:20:58 GMT -6
I've gone from "he's not my favorite" to "wow, I kinda hate him." Not to stan Pete, because goodness knows I think he's too green, but his comments here seem to be being taken out of context. He later expounded upon those thoughts, saying that the GOP runs up the deficit and the Dems are the ones who reign things in and that Dems should be touting those facts. Which, I don't disagree. It's complete bs that the GOP has been able to trade on being the party of fiscal conservatism when they're anything but. |
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Post by jaygee on Dec 6, 2019 0:08:34 GMT -6
I feel utterly adrift since Kamala dropped out and I don't like it. I'm hoping someone will light a fire in me at the December debate. I don’t even want to watch that dumb debate so that might tell you where I’m at in the grief cycle. |
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Post by ladybrienne on Dec 6, 2019 8:54:00 GMT -6
I feel utterly adrift since Kamala dropped out and I don't like it. I'm hoping someone will light a fire in me at the December debate. I don’t even want to watch that dumb debate so that might tell you where I’m at in the grief cycle. I have felt this way about every debate pretty much so far, come sit on my bench. You may rest your head on my bosom. |
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Post by dc2london on Dec 6, 2019 11:16:53 GMT -6
I really really wish we could get Castro and Booker on the debate stage.
Seriously WTF is Tom Steyer even doing. Go home.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 6, 2019 11:18:25 GMT -6
Also I'm currently getting yanked around by insurance company on fucking ALBUTEROL so the candidates who lean right on healthcare at the debate are getting extra mini marshmallows thrown at them.
I am so so so over our BS healthcare
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Post by dc2london on Dec 6, 2019 11:35:55 GMT -6
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Post by Minerva on Dec 6, 2019 12:20:50 GMT -6
Also I'm currently getting yanked around by insurance company on fucking ALBUTEROL so the candidates who lean right on healthcare at the debate are getting extra mini marshmallows thrown at them. I am so so so over our BS healthcare Ugh. That fucking sucks. I always have my albuterol inhaler on me and we have tons of plastic vials for our neb. Lemme know if you ever need a few puffs/vials. |
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Post by Minerva on Dec 6, 2019 12:32:10 GMT -6
I hate the end of the year for health insurance. We hit our max # of covered therapy sessions for DS in October and have been out of pocket ever since. Plus, he needed new orthotics ($$$$) and our co-pay for them sucks. At the same time, he ended up with an emergent foot issue, so none of it could be put off. Thank god for CCs or the orthotics and Christmas wouldn’t be happening. We should be able to catch up in Jan/Feb, but medical costs are so damn stressful. We are so lucky that we can make it work. If we couldn’t afford the orthotic copay, he would likely end up needing surgery.
We have decent health insurance and a median income for our area and are struggling. I know others have it far worse. Something’s gotta give.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 6, 2019 13:07:00 GMT -6
UO: I'm tired of the obsession over Pete having worked at McKinsey, and I think the shrieking demands to see, like, 30 years of Liz's tax returns are totally OTT
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Post by dc2london on Dec 6, 2019 13:09:28 GMT -6
Oh man Minerva I'm so sorry!! We have the opposite situation, the first two quarters we basically bleed money until we hit our deductible. Then at the end of the year we try to cram any savings from actually getting insurance coverage toward the next year's deductible. |
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Post by jaygee on Dec 6, 2019 13:12:33 GMT -6
UO: I'm tired of the obsession over Pete having worked at McKinsey, and I think the shrieking demands to see, like, 30 years of Liz's tax returns are totally OTT This is the only thing sort of saving me this week. They are all being messy AF and I’m just sitting here with the popcorn watching it all go down with smug satisfaction. I bet they all enjoyed Kamala being the punching bag for the last few months. 🍵 It kind of feels like when my team doesn’t make it to the playoffs and I can enjoy the game without the emotion or stress. I mean I don’t know which one of these messy people I will be voting for eventually but it feels very “not my circus” this week. |
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Post by dc2london on Dec 6, 2019 13:16:08 GMT -6
UO: I'm tired of the obsession over Pete having worked at McKinsey, and I think the shrieking demands to see, like, 30 years of Liz's tax returns are totally OTT This is the only thing sort of saving me this week. They are all being messy AF and I’m just sitting here with the popcorn watching it all go down with smug satisfaction. I bet they all enjoyed Kamala being the punching bag for the last few months. 🍵 It kind of feels like when my team doesn’t make it to the playoffs and I can enjoy the game without the emotion or stress. I mean I don’t know which one of these messy people I will be voting for eventually but it feels very “not my circus” this week. I'm trying to stay out of/ignore a lot of it bc I have to volunteer for one of these people at some point. There's plenty of legitimate critiquing/questioning going on but lord, some of it is so ridiculous |
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Post by Minerva on Dec 6, 2019 13:18:30 GMT -6
Oh man Minerva I'm so sorry!! We have the opposite situation, the first two quarters we basically bleed money until we hit our deductible. Then at the end of the year we try to cram any savings from actually getting insurance coverage toward the next year's deductible. Ugh. The state of health insurance in this country really sucks if you actually have to depend on it. I know that my family is sooo lucky to have the coverage and resources that we do compared to so many other people in America. But there is so much room for improvement. |
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Post by Minerva on Dec 6, 2019 13:24:01 GMT -6
UO: I'm tired of the obsession over Pete having worked at McKinsey, and I think the shrieking demands to see, like, 30 years of Liz's tax returns are totally OTT This is the only thing sort of saving me this week. They are all being messy AF and I’m just sitting here with the popcorn watching it all go down with smug satisfaction. I bet they all enjoyed Kamala being the punching bag for the last few months. 🍵 It kind of feels like when my team doesn’t make it to the playoffs and I can enjoy the game without the emotion or stress. I mean I don’t know which one of these messy people I will be voting for eventually but it feels very “not my circus” this week. They really are all messy, aren’t they? I know Obama wasn’t perfect, but he also wasn’t messy like our top 4 this year. I really don’t like political drama llamas. That said, they are all eons better than 45 at least. |
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Post by jaygee on Dec 6, 2019 14:59:40 GMT -6
My word. This is willful ignorance (for the record I think it’s fake ignorance) and should be automatically disqualifying.
He also said no one asked him about stop and frisk before so that’s why he waited until now to apologize. Sure. 😡
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