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Post by crimsonandclover on Dec 17, 2018 6:29:49 GMT -6
And here I thought I was missing out because I kept refreshing last week's thread again. Let's see if Mueller can't whip up a few wonderful Christmas presents for us all...
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Post by cakewench on Dec 17, 2018 7:31:25 GMT -6
Nancy is suppressing impeachment talk in favor of protecting Mueller and letting him work. GOOD.
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Post by greykitty on Dec 17, 2018 7:45:40 GMT -6
I really think impeachment at this point would not do much to heal the country - unless things progress and we have bipartisan agreement that the president must step down (e.g., Watergate). And, as much as I really feared and disliked Nixon, I do think somewhere in his mind he did place the country first, as well as fearing for himself. I have no such feeling regarding the current president.
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Post by kitchen on Dec 17, 2018 7:54:27 GMT -6
Nancy is suppressing impeachment talk in favor of protecting Mueller and letting him work. GOOD. This is why we need her! She so good and knows how to keep a caucus in line. We need that so much right now.
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Post by byjove on Dec 17, 2018 7:55:09 GMT -6
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 17, 2018 8:00:30 GMT -6
Its my daughters birthday today. I'm sure she would LOVE an indictment or two.
Yes I know she's only 8 but her and a couple of the girls were chanting protest slogans at her party yesterday, after a few stories from Rebel Girls.
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Post by greykitty on Dec 17, 2018 8:11:18 GMT -6
I know there are pro's and con's re term limits....but, IMO it can take way more than a few years to not only learn the ropes, but how to maneuver those ropes. LBJ, no matter what is thought of him today, was a master of congressional strategy, and I think it's critical at this stage to not only have politicians with charisma, but maybe light on experience, but politicians who know the nuts and bolts of governing and aren't afraid to horse trade when they need to - like Nancy Pelosi.
Years ago I wouldn't have been so welcoming of pragmaticism, but now I think it's an element we all sorely lack, in all parties.
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Post by notblanche on Dec 17, 2018 8:23:33 GMT -6
Hi friends! I'm back again, hopefully for good this time. I went a round with bronchitis, last week, and lost.
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Post by cakewench on Dec 17, 2018 8:31:56 GMT -6
Hi friends! I'm back again, hopefully for good this time. I went a round with bronchitis, last week, and lost. Oh no! Hope you are feeling better!
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Post by cakewench on Dec 17, 2018 9:17:58 GMT -6
Can someone that isn't a completely biased right-wing source explain to me the hub-bub said right wing sources are making over Mueller, Flynn, and the 302s?
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Post by JukEboX on Dec 17, 2018 9:18:57 GMT -6
Good Morning all!
Been a while since I have been here. Had to drop the car off this morning. It has a oil leak, tranny leak, and a small hole in the exhaust system. So I am spending $500 this morning. Plus an oil change. Hope to be back a little bit before work hits me with a hard project in the next week.
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Post by byjove on Dec 17, 2018 9:23:28 GMT -6
My gosh.
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Post by cmb on Dec 17, 2018 9:42:14 GMT -6
The officers who attacked Jazmine Headley and tried to rip her baby out of her arms over her sitting on the floor will face no disciplinary action. The fuck?
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Post by dc2london on Dec 17, 2018 9:44:59 GMT -6
Can someone that isn't a completely biased right-wing source explain to me the hub-bub said right wing sources are making over Mueller, Flynn, and the 302s? A 302 is just a write-up of an interview conducted by FBI agents. The current team Trump talking point is that Flynn only pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI bc of ridiculous pressure from the Special Counsel. The suggestion is that Flynn didn't really lie, that it was a perjury trap, and that Peter Strzok either didn't complete a 302 or prepared a misleading one to justify squeezing Flynn.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 17, 2018 9:46:27 GMT -6
Basically they are leaning in on, "Sure we did crimes but you shouldn't have found out about them so that's YOUR fault"
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Post by dc2london on Dec 17, 2018 10:05:40 GMT -6
Webster's dictionary designates "justice " as the 2018 word of the year. I love it!
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Post by JukEboX on Dec 17, 2018 10:18:00 GMT -6
The officers who attacked Jazmine Headley and tried to rip her baby out of her arms over her sitting on the floor will face no disciplinary action. Bull F'ing shit.
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Post by athn64 on Dec 17, 2018 10:26:42 GMT -6
The officers who attacked Jazmine Headley and tried to rip her baby out of her arms over her sitting on the floor will face no disciplinary action. Fuck them. And fuck anyone who thinks we don't have a police and racism problem in this country
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Post by athn64 on Dec 17, 2018 10:29:27 GMT -6
They are all guilty as sin and are trying to spin it as not that bad. I hope they all end up in prison together.
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Post by cakewench on Dec 17, 2018 11:00:49 GMT -6
Can someone that isn't a completely biased right-wing source explain to me the hub-bub said right wing sources are making over Mueller, Flynn, and the 302s? A 302 is just a write-up of an interview conducted by FBI agents. The current team Trump talking point is that Flynn only pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI bc of ridiculous pressure from the Special Counsel. The suggestion is that Flynn didn't really lie, that it was a perjury trap, and that Peter Strzok either didn't complete a 302 or prepared a misleading one to justify squeezing Flynn. A friend posted an opinion piece from the Daily Caller (I know, I know) suggesting Mueller may have tampered with evidence. I tried doing my own research but literally every hit was from a right-wing-leaning site ranting about it, which suggests to me grabbing on to the latest straw to try and do anything to discredit the investigation.
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Post by enchanted on Dec 17, 2018 11:11:25 GMT -6
Rudy is honestly the worst lawyer in the history of lawyers. I saw where Guiliani said Mueller would only interview 45 over his (Rudy's) dead body and I was just... 1) You're kind of old, dude. 2) You're totally convincing us all 45 is innocent. 🙄
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Post by cakewench on Dec 17, 2018 11:29:08 GMT -6
TN Senator Lamar Alexander not seeing re-election in 2020:
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Post by dc2london on Dec 17, 2018 11:55:22 GMT -6
TN Senator Lamar Alexander not seeing re-election in 2020: Bye, Felicia
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Post by dc2london on Dec 17, 2018 11:57:02 GMT -6
A 302 is just a write-up of an interview conducted by FBI agents. The current team Trump talking point is that Flynn only pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI bc of ridiculous pressure from the Special Counsel. The suggestion is that Flynn didn't really lie, that it was a perjury trap, and that Peter Strzok either didn't complete a 302 or prepared a misleading one to justify squeezing Flynn. A friend posted an opinion piece from the Daily Caller (I know, I know) suggesting Mueller may have tampered with evidence. I tried doing my own research but literally every hit was from a right-wing-leaning site ranting about it, which suggests to me grabbing on to the latest straw to try and do anything to discredit the investigation. Exactly. No news org with any credibility is talking about it. The right wing media arm is only concerned with keeping wing nuts in a frenzy, not with truth. It's one reason I maaaaaaajorly side eye Kaitlan Collins being CNN's WHC
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Post by dc2london on Dec 17, 2018 11:59:49 GMT -6
Mueller referrals lead to more prosecutions in EDVA Former Michael Flynn Business Associates Indicted in Turkey Lobbying Case nyti.ms/2GoQ2qx
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Post by dc2london on Dec 17, 2018 12:02:25 GMT -6
Mueller referrals lead to more prosecutions in EDVA Former Michael Flynn Business Associates Indicted in Turkey Lobbying Case nyti.ms/2GoQ2qxQuoting myself to add that I just saw Wittes gave this a capital B one exclamation point Boom!
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Post by enchanted on Dec 17, 2018 12:27:12 GMT -6
TN Senator Lamar Alexander not seeing re-election in 2020: Good fucking riddance.
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Dec 17, 2018 13:34:19 GMT -6
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Post by enchanted on Dec 17, 2018 15:00:20 GMT -6
GDI. One of the names already being bandied about as gunning for Alexander's seat makes Lamar look quite moderate. Considering the BSC that just won Corker's seat, the guy has a good chance.
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Dec 17, 2018 15:05:42 GMT -6
Cue tweet from 45 about how this is Obama or Clinton's fault.
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