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Post by dc2london on Nov 30, 2018 17:08:51 GMT -6
This is all fine
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Post by richard on Nov 30, 2018 17:38:08 GMT -6
Spectrum Health Center (a huge hospital in MI bankrolled by the DeVoses) actually sent out letters to patients recommending GoFundMe as a way to cover their needed care. To hell with alllll of that So because I follow a million health care nerds...the story on this is interesting/slightly more complicated in that it appears to be a Medicare loophole as Medicare will cover a transplant surgery but not the anti-rejection medicines needed. The anti-rejection meds are necessary and the transplant team has a duty to give an organ to someone who has the most dire need and the best chance of it being a success. Because it could’ve helped someone else instead... So it’s something that should be fixed but not quite the same issue that many are assuming it to be.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 30, 2018 17:43:17 GMT -6
Spectrum Health Center (a huge hospital in MI bankrolled by the DeVoses) actually sent out letters to patients recommending GoFundMe as a way to cover their needed care. To hell with alllll of that So because I follow a million health care nerds...the story on this is interesting/slightly more complicated in that it appears to be a Medicare loophole as Medicare will cover a transplant surgery but not the anti-rejection medicines needed. The anti-rejection meds are necessary and the transplant team has a duty to give an organ to someone who has the most dire need and the best chance of it being a success. Because it could’ve helped someone else instead... So it’s something that should be fixed but not quite the same issue that many are assuming it to be. But would a GFM even address this concern?
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Post by dc2london on Nov 30, 2018 17:44:53 GMT -6
Spectrum Health Center (a huge hospital in MI bankrolled by the DeVoses) actually sent out letters to patients recommending GoFundMe as a way to cover their needed care. To hell with alllll of that So because I follow a million health care nerds...the story on this is interesting/slightly more complicated in that it appears to be a Medicare loophole as Medicare will cover a transplant surgery but not the anti-rejection medicines needed. The anti-rejection meds are necessary and the transplant team has a duty to give an organ to someone who has the most dire need and the best chance of it being a success. Because it could’ve helped someone else instead... So it’s something that should be fixed but not quite the same issue that many are assuming it to be. From the health center position this 40% makes sense, but I might, as a patient, find more value in guidance from the hospitals in appealing to my health insurance company rather than, "Maybe Internet strangers will save you shruggie emoji"
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Post by jaygee on Nov 30, 2018 17:48:38 GMT -6
Spectrum Health Center (a huge hospital in MI bankrolled by the DeVoses) actually sent out letters to patients recommending GoFundMe as a way to cover their needed care. To hell with alllll of that So because I follow a million health care nerds...the story on this is interesting/slightly more complicated in that it appears to be a Medicare loophole as Medicare will cover a transplant surgery but not the anti-rejection medicines needed. The anti-rejection meds are necessary and the transplant team has a duty to give an organ to someone who has the most dire need and the best chance of it being a success. Because it could’ve helped someone else instead... So it’s something that should be fixed but not quite the same issue that many are assuming it to be. Ok, so I’m seeing the complications a bit. I was wondering why the health system didn’t have that patient go through their financial aid process (which includes qualifying for charity care etc) but it gets complicated when the health system probably doesn’t supply the meds so they can’t really help with the payments. Ugh. It’s so complicated. But I still think GFM is not an answer.
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Post by richard on Nov 30, 2018 17:55:39 GMT -6
So because I follow a million health care nerds...the story on this is interesting/slightly more complicated in that it appears to be a Medicare loophole as Medicare will cover a transplant surgery but not the anti-rejection medicines needed. The anti-rejection meds are necessary and the transplant team has a duty to give an organ to someone who has the most dire need and the best chance of it being a success. Because it could’ve helped someone else instead... So it’s something that should be fixed but not quite the same issue that many are assuming it to be. But would a GFM even address this concern? They suggested that the person raise $10k for the antirejection meds, which they did. I’m not saying it’s right someone has to pay out of pocket like this when they’re on Medicare but it’s a Medicare problem, not the health care system’s fault. It would happen to someone with that coverage needing a transplant anywhere.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 30, 2018 18:01:17 GMT -6
But would a GFM even address this concern? They suggested that the person raise $10k for the antirejection meds, which they did. I’m not saying it’s right someone has to pay out of pocket like this when they’re on Medicare but it’s a Medicare problem, not the health care system’s fault. It would happen to someone with that coverage needing a transplant anywhere. Oh I totally understand what you're saying. My complaint is more with a healthcare structure that necessitates GFM supplementation than with a specific provider (which wasn't at all clear in my OP)
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Post by richard on Nov 30, 2018 18:02:19 GMT -6
Honestly I think them including a suggestion of a GFM in the letter was to maybe lessen the blow of “this is a shitty situation where you’re falling through the cracks and we’ve got nothing for you.”
But I fully agree that people should not have to appeal to the internet to get necessary medical attention.
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Post by richard on Nov 30, 2018 18:05:38 GMT -6
They suggested that the person raise $10k for the antirejection meds, which they did. I’m not saying it’s right someone has to pay out of pocket like this when they’re on Medicare but it’s a Medicare problem, not the health care system’s fault. It would happen to someone with that coverage needing a transplant anywhere. Oh I totally understand what you're saying. My complaint is more with a healthcare structure that necessitates GFM supplementation than with a specific provider (which wasn't at all clear in my OP) Yeah, the threads I read were basically experts responding to posts of “Medicare for all!!” after AOC’s post about this and they were all like “....this is Medicare.” So just that Medicare has it’s own issues too. Womp. Womp.
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Post by doublestuf on Nov 30, 2018 18:07:26 GMT -6
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Post by doublestuf on Nov 30, 2018 18:08:32 GMT -6
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Post by cakewench on Nov 30, 2018 18:20:09 GMT -6
Ethics agency warns general employees not to discuss impeachment until day after 2020 election:
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Post by jaygee on Nov 30, 2018 18:24:17 GMT -6
Oh I totally understand what you're saying. My complaint is more with a healthcare structure that necessitates GFM supplementation than with a specific provider (which wasn't at all clear in my OP) Yeah, the threads I read were basically experts responding to posts of “Medicare for all!!” after AOC’s post about this and they were all like “....this is Medicare.” So just that Medicare has it’s own issues too. Womp. Womp. For sure, Medicare does not cover everything. And there are patient portions that are not insignificant. There will need to be significant reworking of some areas of Medicare if it is to be applied to a wider population. And private insurance supplemental plans will grow, I’m sure, to cover out of pocket costs.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 30, 2018 18:51:50 GMT -6
Yeah that's interesting. I didn't see the letter from MFA groups or from AOC, I saw it from an alumni group to which my H belongs. Good food for thought on h ok w Medicare isn't an infallible medical safety net.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 30, 2018 18:53:16 GMT -6
In news that is pointless but mildly amusing, Giuliani has his own covfefe
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Post by mb3 on Nov 30, 2018 20:43:14 GMT -6
Have we talked about how Putin found out his one on one was canceled via Twitter? Because I laughed My dad: “Welcome to America, now you’re just like our Cabinet secretaries” Which is true in more ways than one.
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 30, 2018 22:54:10 GMT -6
Former president GHW Bush has passed
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Post by athn64 on Nov 30, 2018 22:55:28 GMT -6
Former president GHW Bush has passed Woah. I didn't really expect him to live much longer after Barbara passed. I'm sorry for his family.
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Post by milano on Nov 30, 2018 22:57:36 GMT -6
George H.W. passed away tonight. There's something so touching about spouses that pass so close to each other, when they've lived a long and full life.
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Post by cnf on Dec 1, 2018 6:46:50 GMT -6
Obama's statement is beautiful and got me a little misty.
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Post by kitchen on Dec 1, 2018 9:00:44 GMT -6
Yeah, the threads I read were basically experts responding to posts of “Medicare for all!!” after AOC’s post about this and they were all like “....this is Medicare.” So just that Medicare has it’s own issues too. Womp. Womp. For sure, Medicare does not cover everything. And there are patient portions that are not insignificant. There will need to be significant reworking of some areas of Medicare if it is to be applied to a wider population. And private insurance supplemental plans will grow, I’m sure, to cover out of pocket costs. It's been interesting for me watching the medical system with a medically complex kid who has private insurance + Medicaid versus other kids I know who have similar medical needs but don't have the private insurance as primary and have straight Medicaid. I don't know how we get away completely from healthcare being accessible first and foremost for the wealthy, because of exactly what you're saying about supplement plans.
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Post by enchanted on Dec 1, 2018 9:24:03 GMT -6
Obama's statement is beautiful and got me a little misty. That and the cartoon I saw that was Barbara and their daughter who died as a child telling them they had been waiting for him.
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Post by crimsonandclover on Dec 1, 2018 9:24:06 GMT -6
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Post by oreobitsy on Dec 1, 2018 10:31:17 GMT -6
This picture of Bush and the little boy just warms my heart, especially knowing he had a daughter who had Leukemia years before.
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Post by flippinchica on Dec 1, 2018 10:34:06 GMT -6
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Post by athn64 on Dec 1, 2018 12:59:28 GMT -6
In NC, people (eta from the Republican candidate's campaign) went door to door and took 1300 absentee ballots from elderly, largely black voters and filled them out for Republican Harris who won by 905 votes. Fuck him.
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Post by doublestuf on Dec 1, 2018 13:03:30 GMT -6
I'm so fucking pissed about @heartbot's latest post (and of fucking course dumbasses here voted for voter ID law WHEN THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING PROBLEM), so I'm posting this pettiness instead. I laughed and woke the baby, who pulled off the boob and flashed me the cutest grin.
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Post by mb3 on Dec 1, 2018 13:57:27 GMT -6
Apparently the woman who spearheaded this effort for him is suspected of having done this before. Yeah read through his twitter....Dowless is definitely in deep on this.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Dec 1, 2018 14:02:55 GMT -6
In NC, people (eta from the Republican candidate's campaign) went door to door and took 1300 absentee ballots from elderly, largely black voters and filled them out for Republican Harris who won by 905 votes. Omfg
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Post by cakewench on Dec 1, 2018 19:03:33 GMT -6
Petty, but here for it.
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