byjove
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Post by byjove on Jul 9, 2018 19:45:13 GMT -6
Ugh. When I saw the top 4 pics, he was the one I guessed it would be based on looks. He had the smarmiest face.
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Jul 9, 2018 20:22:46 GMT -6
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tater
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Jul 9, 2018 20:24:22 GMT -6
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Post by tater on Jul 9, 2018 20:24:22 GMT -6
The one thing that made me chuckle this evening
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Post by ladybrienne on Jul 9, 2018 21:05:44 GMT -6
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kitchen
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Post by kitchen on Jul 9, 2018 22:25:53 GMT -6
Did any of you hear Nina Totenberg's "can't let it go" at the end of last week's Political Roundup (I'm 99% sure that's where it was, but if I'm jumbling my NPR and podcasts correct me please)? At least the confirmation hearings won't be full of handmaid's tale outfits?
(Amy Coney Barrett apparently belongs to an organization in which men are somethingicantremember and women are handmaidens, so Nina was saying that she's just envisioning the confirmation hearings being full of protesters wearing red cloaks and white caps)
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Jul 10, 2018 5:57:02 GMT -6
All of the Thai kids and their coach are out and safe!!!!
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Jul 10, 2018 6:13:37 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 6:13:37 GMT -6
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fatpony
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Post by fatpony on Jul 10, 2018 6:22:35 GMT -6
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Jul 10, 2018 6:28:25 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 6:28:25 GMT -6
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piratecat
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Jul 10, 2018 6:31:23 GMT -6
Post by piratecat on Jul 10, 2018 6:31:23 GMT -6
Have we talked about this yet? San Bernardino prosecutor makes extremely offensive comments about Maxine Waters: Civility. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this guy doesn't seem to like women much. Holy fuck. I am....actually speechless with rage that a public figure would say anything approaching this. Or black people. Or poor people.
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jkjacq
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Jul 10, 2018 6:44:15 GMT -6
Post by jkjacq on Jul 10, 2018 6:44:15 GMT -6
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Post by ladybrienne on Jul 10, 2018 6:48:57 GMT -6
I fucking hate Mitch with the fire of a thousand suns.
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Jul 10, 2018 7:31:31 GMT -6
Post by cakewench on Jul 10, 2018 7:31:31 GMT -6
This is my surprised face:
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Jul 10, 2018 7:33:38 GMT -6
Post by notblanche on Jul 10, 2018 7:33:38 GMT -6
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cmb
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Post by cmb on Jul 10, 2018 7:37:37 GMT -6
I’m surprised... Wait, no, I lied. I’m not 🙄
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tater
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Jul 10, 2018 7:47:47 GMT -6
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Post by tater on Jul 10, 2018 7:47:47 GMT -6
This is my surprised face:
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byjove
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Jul 10, 2018 7:58:41 GMT -6
Post by byjove on Jul 10, 2018 7:58:41 GMT -6
Said like from Christmas Vacation.
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Jul 10, 2018 8:29:19 GMT -6
Post by cakewench on Jul 10, 2018 8:29:19 GMT -6
Trump pardons two cattle ranchers (the ones that inspired the militia stand off):
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Post by Uncaripswife on Jul 10, 2018 8:40:45 GMT -6
Hahahahahaha. Merrick Garland. Hahahahahaha.
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jkjacq
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Jul 10, 2018 8:44:11 GMT -6
Post by jkjacq on Jul 10, 2018 8:44:11 GMT -6
Trump pardons two cattle ranchers (the ones that inspired the militia stand off): You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. They I wah I can't begin to explain how mad this makes me.
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Jul 10, 2018 9:09:41 GMT -6
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Post by blurnette989 on Jul 10, 2018 9:09:41 GMT -6
*sigh* I feel like the disability rights community has been screaming into the void over this. It is a difficult situation. There needs to definitely be more emphasis on creating recyclable materials like plastic straws that can be recycled and teaching people to recycle and getting governments proactively recycling. It is bananas to me that we Elon Musk can make a kid submarine in a week and we can't make plastic straws that recyclable so we don't alienate further disability communities.
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byjove
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Jul 10, 2018 9:15:47 GMT -6
Post by byjove on Jul 10, 2018 9:15:47 GMT -6
*sigh* I feel like the disability rights community has been screaming into the void over this. It is a difficult situation. There needs to definitely be more emphasis on creating recyclable materials like plastic straws that can be recycled and teaching people to recycle and getting governments proactively recycling. It is bananas to me that we Elon Musk can make a kid submarine in a week and we can't make plastic straws that recyclable so we don't alienate further disability communities. I mean, they suck, but there are also paper straws.
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Ls2012
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Jul 10, 2018 9:19:21 GMT -6
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Post by Ls2012 on Jul 10, 2018 9:19:21 GMT -6
*sigh* I feel like the disability rights community has been screaming into the void over this. I can't understand why businesses don't just switch the plastic straws for biodegradable paper straws. Edit: There's got to be a way to replicate the "bendy" part of a plastic straw in a paper straw. There has to be.
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Jul 10, 2018 9:19:35 GMT -6
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Post by blurnette989 on Jul 10, 2018 9:19:35 GMT -6
It is a difficult situation. There needs to definitely be more emphasis on creating recyclable materials like plastic straws that can be recycled and teaching people to recycle and getting governments proactively recycling. It is bananas to me that we Elon Musk can make a kid submarine in a week and we can't make plastic straws that recyclable so we don't alienate further disability communities. I mean, they suck, but there are also paper straws. Yes but because they can't be used above certain temperatures, dissolve quickly , etcm they can be problematic for people with disabilities needing straws to drink soup or who consume things slowly. They also don't bend and can be a choking hazard when they fall apart.
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byjove
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Jul 10, 2018 9:22:23 GMT -6
Post by byjove on Jul 10, 2018 9:22:23 GMT -6
I mean, they suck, but there are also paper straws. Yes, and not to say people with disabilities don't need to be represented (and there surely can be some solution) but starbucks doesn't even have these type of straws to begin with.
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Post by charlotte on Jul 10, 2018 9:25:11 GMT -6
LOLOLOLOL
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Jul 10, 2018 9:26:26 GMT -6
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Post by blurnette989 on Jul 10, 2018 9:26:26 GMT -6
Basically outright bans place the burden always on the consumer to take care of it themselves. For most people that just means minor inconvenience. For disabled populations it adds additional burden on already burdened group who pay more in medical and care costs regularly.
We can reduce single use plastic if its done thoughtfully withouthurdening communities for which these products help allow independence.
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jkjacq
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Jul 10, 2018 9:30:57 GMT -6
Post by jkjacq on Jul 10, 2018 9:30:57 GMT -6
It is a difficult situation. There needs to definitely be more emphasis on creating recyclable materials like plastic straws that can be recycled and teaching people to recycle and getting governments proactively recycling. It is bananas to me that we Elon Musk can make a kid submarine in a week and we can't make plastic straws that recyclable so we don't alienate further disability communities. I mean, they suck, but there are also paper straws. I have a friend who is all over this issue for the community. I am trying to find more of what she has posted but this was her latest Lawrence Carter-Long 16 hrs ME TO NPR ON SEATTLE'S STRAW BAN: ALL of this confusion and controversy could have easily been avoided if disability advocates who are versed in public policy had been consulted--like they are supposed to be--beforehand rather than after the fact. Or if the city council had bothered to alert the Seattle Commission for People with Disabilities (which is why the group exists). Clearly no one did. And now Seattle has a PR problem that rivals the mess humans have created in the ocean that they have to clean up. The lesson: When disabled people are left out of public policy our expertise, our experience and our insights are left out as well. All of this could have been avoided. It wasn't. Both the city of Seattle and the SPU have to own that. In the end, this should be a lesson to other cities. And to companies like Starbucks. Include disabled people in the beginning of the process rather than as an afterthought and you'll not only discover better solutions - you'll also save yourselves a lot of avoidable headaches. ETA this was her repost, not HER words I should make that pretty clear.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Jul 10, 2018 9:38:24 GMT -6
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Minerva
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Post by Minerva on Jul 10, 2018 10:44:42 GMT -6
I mean, they suck, but there are also paper straws. I have a friend who is all over this issue for the community. I am trying to find more of what she has posted but this was her latest Lawrence Carter-Long 16 hrs ME TO NPR ON SEATTLE'S STRAW BAN: ALL of this confusion and controversy could have easily been avoided if disability advocates who are versed in public policy had been consulted--like they are supposed to be--beforehand rather than after the fact. Or if the city council had bothered to alert the Seattle Commission for People with Disabilities (which is why the group exists). Clearly no one did. And now Seattle has a PR problem that rivals the mess humans have created in the ocean that they have to clean up. The lesson: When disabled people are left out of public policy our expertise, our experience and our insights are left out as well. All of this could have been avoided. It wasn't. Both the city of Seattle and the SPU have to own that. In the end, this should be a lesson to other cities. And to companies like Starbucks. Include disabled people in the beginning of the process rather than as an afterthought and you'll not only discover better solutions - you'll also save yourselves a lot of avoidable headaches. ETA this was her repost, not HER words I should make that pretty clear. Yes, these situations could be a win-win, rather than leaving people with disabilities who need straws at a loss, if there was more communication in the planning. To Starbuck’s credit, they are planning to address this issue, but it hasn’t been widely reported on. Straw-less cups will be phased in over 5 years and there are plans to have straws available for those who need them.
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