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Post by yellow711 on Jul 6, 2018 5:01:01 GMT -6
Happy Friday!!
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Post by yellow711 on Jul 6, 2018 5:01:44 GMT -6
My DD is 5 years old today.
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Post by marygracerich on Jul 6, 2018 5:35:05 GMT -6
My DD is 5 years old today. 😭😭😭 Happy birthday to your big girl!
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Post by marygracerich on Jul 6, 2018 5:38:33 GMT -6
I barely slept. I slept from 2:30ish until around 4:30ish and then from around 5:15-6:30. I am soooo tired. It’s 262738263 degrees in my house but it’s a few degrees cooler than yesterday. The AC guy is coming at 12:30. The baby has a dr appointment at 11. Then tonight I have to work. I have no idea how I am going to manage it at this level of tired.
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Post by aprilz81 on Jul 6, 2018 6:16:24 GMT -6
I know this will be a little controversial, but we started sleep training last night. I couldn't take it anymore. We did Super Nanny Jo Frost's " Controlled Timed Crying Technique" and it went surprisingly well. She woke up at 4:25 and I went in, picked her up, rocked her until she was calm and then put her back in her crib and hoped she would stay quiet and go to sleep. I went to the bathroom and she was crying when I came back out. I turned the volume off on the monitor and went into the nursery and closed the door and did the technique. We got up to 16 minutes, but at about 9 minutes she calmed down and was just whimpering and she was asleep before that timer went off. I was back in bed after 24 minutes and stayed awake for a little while to make sure she was out for good, but she didn't wake up again until 7:30 and she woke up happy! I felt a little guilty at the peak of the crying, but I know this is the right move for us. She wasn't hungry or in pain, she just wanted to be held and/or come to bed with us.
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Post by easternshoregirl on Jul 6, 2018 6:39:29 GMT -6
aprilz81, not controversial with me at all. Some of my friends and I are in strong agreement that it is way better to do it earlier rather than later. (not talking like a few weeks old but before 6 months) Did you do the ST techniques at bedtime too? Making sure they are falling asleep on their own to start the night is super important too. All this said, so much depends on the baby too! Our first was hell on me and I tried everything. I know flippinchica is a big fan of the Precious Little Sleep methods and that was my lifeline with DS.
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Post by aprilz81 on Jul 6, 2018 6:56:43 GMT -6
aprilz81 , not controversial with me at all. Some of my friends and I are in strong agreement that it is way better to do it earlier rather than later. (not talking like a few weeks old but before 6 months) Did you do the ST techniques at bedtime too? Making sure they are falling asleep on their own to start the night is super important too. All this said, so much depends on the baby too! Our first was hell on me and I tried everything. I know flippinchica is a big fan of the Precious Little Sleep methods and that was my lifeline with DS. We've been working on drowsy but awake for several weeks and that happens 95% of the time I would say. Our bedtime routine still needs some work as it does vary a little each night, but we always rock and cuddle her with her pacifier (or bottle depending on when she last ate) until her eyes are drooping, then we put her in the crib and she almost always goes to sleep on her own and normally stays that way until the middle of the night. It really is the 2-5am wake ups that are killing me because she just wants to be cuddled in our bed and I just can't do that long term. If she is sick or something that is fine, but not "just because" every single night. I like this technique because I don't feel like I'm ignoring her since I'm "allowed" to sooth her at intervals. Hopefully this won't take too long!
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Post by marygracerich on Jul 6, 2018 7:21:29 GMT -6
The AC guys came 3 1/2 hours early!! It’s getting cool in here finally. I may actually sleep tonight.
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Post by sunfrogger on Jul 6, 2018 7:25:15 GMT -6
I definitely am not trying to argue because what works for every family is different, but stories of babies who STTN are the exception, not the rule, and I in general feel like media hypes up taking care of babies like they're supposed to STTN. It creates a challenge and stigma that is hard to overcome. Parenting is HARD because there is no answer key.
Would I love if O STTN? Oh my God, absolutely. Am I mad at her because she doesn't? No. She's just a baby. She doesn't know how to manipulate parents yet (unlike my 2.75 going on 15yo 😒). She is just tired, scared, and wants her momma for comfort. I'll happily wake up every few hours to give her that comfort. (Now, to get to w a place where she sleeps in her crib and only wakes up every few hours...). This phase in life is so short, when they are so little and need us, I'll take it to hold her a little longer. Last night O and I slept on the couch and she slept well for the first time in weeks. I won't say I didn't hate waking up snuggling my princess who just needed her mommy.
All this to say what works for everyone is different.
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Post by sunfrogger on Jul 6, 2018 7:35:04 GMT -6
Hi friends. I've had a rough few days. but I'm trying to focus on the positive. It's Friday!
I need to kick menu planning for Os dedication into high gear. My mom offered to help me with food so now I just got to pick what I wanna do.
I started listing maternity clothes for sale since we pretty much decided we are done at 2. I'm 100% planning to use that $ for new clothes. I'm about 10-12lbs from this pp weight and 20 from pre-baby.
My sister picked her wedding venue and date!! I'm so excited. 🤗 AND it gives me plenty of time to lose the weight since O will be 2! They are nerds and are getting married on 3-14-20 (Pi day).
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Jul 6, 2018 8:16:52 GMT -6
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Post by dragonflyinn on Jul 6, 2018 8:16:52 GMT -6
sunfrogger I’m with you too. Part of it is STM I think, I know it will pass where with DD I was like OMG THIS WILL NEVER END I WILL NEVER SLEEP AGAIN!!! Lol. DS was up every 3-4 hours for the last month & I just rolled with it. He’s done a few nights now with 6 hr stretches (no sleep training required). I never had to night wean DD , she just naturally stretched her sleep out longer the older she got, so idk what I’ll do if we get to that place with DS. But I do have this sense of how quickly time is passing with DS & he won’t be little much longer. So I have more patience for the tough seasons.
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Post by aprilz81 on Jul 6, 2018 8:35:10 GMT -6
If Faith would go back to sleep after she wakes up without being brought into our bed I wouldn't be sleep training yet, but she WILL NOT go to sleep unless she is being held after she wakes up in the middle of the night. It is weird because she doesn't get held/rocked fully to sleep when we put her to bed so I don't know why she wants it at 4am. If I could go in and rock/nurse/bottle feed her and put her down and she would go to sleep I would be able to manage. Right now as soon as we (usually me) puts her back in the crib she wakes right back up screaming.
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Jul 6, 2018 8:36:55 GMT -6
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Post by flippinchica on Jul 6, 2018 8:36:55 GMT -6
aprilz81, not controversial with me at all. Some of my friends and I are in strong agreement that it is way better to do it earlier rather than later. (not talking like a few weeks old but before 6 months) Did you do the ST techniques at bedtime too? Making sure they are falling asleep on their own to start the night is super important too. All this said, so much depends on the baby too! Our first was hell on me and I tried everything. I know flippinchica is a big fan of the Precious Little Sleep methods and that was my lifeline with DS. Yes for sure. First of all though sleep training as I define it is not night weaning. It is allowing the baby to learn to fall asleep on their own at bedtime. With DS1 at about 6 months things became not sustainable. He would wake up every time we put him down. He would eiternurse or bounce to sleep and the we did this up down dance for an hour or more every night. Then once he finally went down he would be o every hour. After we sleep trained at bedtime I still nursed a motn feed and one at 5-6 am. I weaned the motn feed at a year.
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Post by sunfrogger on Jul 6, 2018 8:59:05 GMT -6
sunfrogger I’m with you too. Part of it is STM I think, I know it will pass where with DD I was like OMG THIS WILL NEVER END I WILL NEVER SLEEP AGAIN!!! Lol. DS was up every 3-4 hours for the last month & I just rolled with it. He’s done a few nights now with 6 hr stretches (no sleep training required). I never had to night wean DD , she just naturally stretched her sleep out longer the older she got, so idk what I’ll do if we get to that place with DS. But I do have this sense of how quickly time is passing with DS & he won’t be little much longer. So I have more patience for the tough seasons. I agree! I do think it may be a chill STM feeling because I've definitely not worried as much over Liv as I did with my oldest with stuff like this.
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Post by mrsp84 on Jul 6, 2018 10:23:56 GMT -6
Happy Friday! It was so nice to walk outside this morning without instantly sweating. Humidity is down for a few days and I’m happy our AC can get a break.
I’m hoping to skip out of work a little early today. My boss is out and basically no one is here today. I’m not doing much work and have zero motivation.
Oh! I got on the scale this morning and lost 4 lbs! It’s about time my scale moves in the other direction. 👍🏻
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Jul 6, 2018 10:36:00 GMT -6
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Post by yellow711 on Jul 6, 2018 10:36:00 GMT -6
You guys, my anxiety is getting so bad. I really wanted to hold off on meds, but I'm not sure if I can. I go to P's daycare every day at lunch to feed her and I found out yesterday my boss scheduled a mandatory lunch meeting next week and had a massive panic attack. I still feel off from it. I'm cutting out caffeine and alcohol for the foreseeable future and stepping up the exercise, but man. This is rough. Anxiety is a bitch. I had it so bad with my DD. It took me a long time to realize I needed help. Medication was my life saver. (I was on it for a year) I started the same medication right after this LO was born. Hugs to you. You need to take care of yourself to take care of others. please consider taking the meds
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Post by sunfrogger on Jul 6, 2018 12:08:09 GMT -6
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Post by watermelonseed on Jul 6, 2018 12:21:09 GMT -6
misspatty hugs. I had bad anxiety with DD1 and it can be very overwhelming. We are here for you!
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Post by watermelonseed on Jul 6, 2018 12:22:32 GMT -6
TGIF! We are getting take out when I am done with work at 4 then I am meeting a friend for a glass of wine out after the kids are asleep.
No real plans tomorrow which is nice, too.
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Jul 6, 2018 12:25:46 GMT -6
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Post by dragonflyinn on Jul 6, 2018 12:25:46 GMT -6
My children are napping in the same room today. Wish me luck 🤪
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Post by stephne on Jul 6, 2018 14:59:34 GMT -6
misspatty thinking of you! I would recommend discussing with your doctor. Regarding sleep training...take this with a grain of salt because both of my boys seem to be sleep lovers. I will nurse C & get him ready for bed. He goes down in his pack in play awake. I may have to go in and give him his nuk a couple of times if he starts fussing but he has never full on cried. I think that is the first and most important step because that carries through to night sleep. If he wakes in the middle of the night I will give him his nuk and he is right back to bed. With E it worked out even better, I would put the monitor on low, that way I would only hear him when he was crying, not just grunting, moving around etc and most of the time he put himself back to sleep but he was also more of a thumb sucker. We would do the same for C but he doesn't have a room until the new house is built. aprilz81 does Faith take a nuk or sleep with a lovey that could give her some extra security? Also, have your tried calming her from her crib? I know C likes his face/head stroked so if he is upset I will do that. I personally think that co-sleeping can lead to some very hard to break habits which is why we never did that from day 1 (maybe except for some naps cuddles here and there). Just some extra thoughts, unfortunately there is no golden parenting book & each child can be sooo different.
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Post by aprilz81 on Jul 6, 2018 15:15:05 GMT -6
misspatty thinking of you! I would recommend discussing with your doctor. Regarding sleep training...take this with a grain of salt because both of my boys seem to be sleep lovers. I will nurse C & get him ready for bed. He goes down in his pack in play awake. I may have to go in and give him his nuk a couple of times if he starts fussing but he has never full on cried. I think that is the first and most important step because that carries through to night sleep. If he wakes in the middle of the night I will give him his nuk and he is right back to bed. With E it worked out even better, I would put the monitor on low, that way I would only hear him when he was crying, not just grunting, moving around etc and most of the time he put himself back to sleep but he was also more of a thumb sucker. We would do the same for C but he doesn't have a room until the new house is built. aprilz81 does Faith take a nuk or sleep with a lovey that could give her some extra security? Also, have your tried calming her from her crib? I know C likes his face/head stroked so if he is upset I will do that. I personally think that co-sleeping can lead to some very hard to break habits which is why we never did that from day 1 (maybe except for some naps cuddles here and there). Just some extra thoughts, unfortunately there is no golden parenting book & each child can be sooo different. She takes a paci and we have started using the Wubanub or whatever the ones are with the animals attached. She seems to like the soft animals and they are harder for her to spit/throw out of the crib. We've tried rubbing her head & her back, patting her butt, the whole 9 yards and no joke as soon as she knows someone is there and not picking her up she actually cries harder. She wants to be HELD. I've tried everything I can think of to calm her down in the middle of the night but nothing works except holding/snuggling her from the time she first wakes up until it is time to get up in the morning. That is why I'm sleep training. I'll still feed her if she seems hungry, and maybe cuddle her once, but we don't want to co-sleep long term so we have to break that habit sooner rather than later.
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Post by marygracerich on Jul 6, 2018 15:40:08 GMT -6
I had the baby’s dr appointment to check on the progress of his head today. The dr said it’s looking really good. In fact if the measurements he took at the beginning were like today’s, he wouldn’t even have the helmet. We are going to see him again in a month. I am pretty confident that he won’t need to wear it for much more after that.
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Post by dragonflyinn on Jul 6, 2018 17:09:32 GMT -6
misspatty thinking of you! I would recommend discussing with your doctor. Regarding sleep training...take this with a grain of salt because both of my boys seem to be sleep lovers. I will nurse C & get him ready for bed. He goes down in his pack in play awake. I may have to go in and give him his nuk a couple of times if he starts fussing but he has never full on cried. I think that is the first and most important step because that carries through to night sleep. If he wakes in the middle of the night I will give him his nuk and he is right back to bed. With E it worked out even better, I would put the monitor on low, that way I would only hear him when he was crying, not just grunting, moving around etc and most of the time he put himself back to sleep but he was also more of a thumb sucker. We would do the same for C but he doesn't have a room until the new house is built. aprilz81 does Faith take a nuk or sleep with a lovey that could give her some extra security? Also, have your tried calming her from her crib? I know C likes his face/head stroked so if he is upset I will do that. I personally think that co-sleeping can lead to some very hard to break habits which is why we never did that from day 1 (maybe except for some naps cuddles here and there). Just some extra thoughts, unfortunately there is no golden parenting book & each child can be sooo different. Twins!! Not sure how I got lucky with two sleepy babes. I mean DS wakes up a ton right now but give him a paci & he goes right back down.
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Post by dragonflyinn on Jul 6, 2018 17:10:38 GMT -6
Also, I am 100% team lovey. DD wouldn’t take a paci so it was the only thing that soothed her & I gave DS one about a month ago (he is giant and very strong so I trusted he wouldn’t smother himself with it). He looooves it and sometimes MOTN I’ll just give that to him instead of his paci.
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Post by aprilz81 on Jul 6, 2018 17:19:47 GMT -6
Also, I am 100% team lovey. DD wouldn’t take a paci so it was the only thing that soothed her & I gave DS one about a month ago (he is giant and very strong so I trusted he wouldn’t smother himself with it). He looooves it and sometimes MOTN I’ll just give that to him instead of his paci. Faith was gifted several lovey items, I was going to wait a little to give them to her, but maybe I should try one. She isn't huge, but she is very strong (lifts herself way up on her belly, starting to sit unassisted for short periods of time, rolls both ways with ease) so maybe it wouldn't be too dangerous to give her one now (or at least soon).
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Post by jessijean on Jul 6, 2018 19:06:06 GMT -6
Turns out the dr thinks I have thrush. At least that explains the pain and it's treatable.
K had his 6 month checkup today. 20lb!! No wonder why he was getting heavy inthe bucket seat.
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Post by easternshoregirl on Jul 7, 2018 14:40:16 GMT -6
Damn I commented and then disappeared for the good stuff! I have never been able to ST for MOTN, I just don't have it in me. I have only done it for bedtime. I would agree that the lost sleep is just for a short time but....I have a three year old (or he will be in August) that does not sleep through the night. I have not slept through the night since 2014! It's our way of life for now. Disrupted sleep isn't fun but we've adapted. I did night wean when DS was about 15 months and that helped some.
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