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Post by Uncaripswife on Jun 19, 2018 10:29:06 GMT -6
How do you respond to people using the "what if a stranger came into your house" excuse and saying "what if they are smugglers and drug dealers"? I want to post articles about the breastfeeding mom and others like that but is there a better way? Those seeking asylum aren't strangers coming into your house. It's more like you invited them in out of the rain, but when they showed up to get dry you called the cops and had them arrested for trespassing.
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Post by summerbabe on Jun 19, 2018 10:39:15 GMT -6
@heartbot, oh yeah totally. I want to f with her bottom line.
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Post by athn64 on Jun 19, 2018 10:43:07 GMT -6
One of them works for his dad. Doubt he'll get fired. Here's some info sahred on Twitter. (THe Immortal Ink address and phone is the wrong one. The guy is actually in VA. He's the one who works for his dad)
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Post by jkjacq on Jun 19, 2018 10:44:23 GMT -6
Apparently ted Cruz of all people is introducing emergency legislation It's hot garbage, though. I didnt say it was good legislation
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Post by elle on Jun 19, 2018 10:50:36 GMT -6
For those who want more to do, there's a group on Facebook called Sleeping Giants who are targeting the various companies doing business with ICE with a letter writing/email campaign.
Those are just two examples, there are more on their Facebook page. I urge everyone to check them out.
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Post by cougarette on Jun 19, 2018 10:50:38 GMT -6
This was posted in one of the local DC activism groups as the backbone of a plan to address family separation. It’s a good start and I’m guessing many of us are already doing these things. Just a note - 48 Democrats have now signed onto DiFi’s Keep Families Together act. Manchin is the only D holdout. Flake, Corker, Collins, Murakowski, and McCain are all good senators to target right now. ............ Here's the current proposed plan. Let's call it "Operation Keep Families Together": ****PHASE ONE: Postcard Avalanche Basically, we hit the DOJ (Sessions), DHS, and ICE with postcards simply worded to deliver our condemnation of this zero tolerance policy. This activity can be taken outside our group to anyone and everyone who wants to participate. ****PHASE TWO: Education & Advocacy We flood Facebook and Twitter with information intended to educate ourselves and our friends and neighbors on the intricacies of this situation, which extends to current legislation, the obstacles to entering the country legally, the cultural profiles of migrants, etc. The objective is to dispel myths that feed into our collective complacency and confusion so we can become better advocates for migrants' rights and sway public opinion into a more active direction. ****PHASE THREE: Fundraising Our group picks one (or more) non-profits who are on the front lines trying to reunite families and help asylum seekers and we put our money where our mouths are. This could include RAICES, K.I.N.D, the ACLU, etc. ****THROUGHOUT: Call our MoC We light up the phones. This doesn't require a phase. We tell our senators to back Sen. Dianne Feinstein's bill (which currently has 32 senators backing it). We tell our representatives that they must wield whatever power they have to amend the GOP bill to remove its provision for funding a border wall. We urge everyone to investigate and shut down ICE and border patrol abuses. We thank those who have already worked to accomplish all of the above. This is what we've got for now, but we won't launch without you. Last winter, we used our collective powers for good to save two Baltimore schools from a deep freeze - I think we can do this, too. So the question is: are you in? If yes, let us know in the comments and share your thoughts on how we can make the biggest impact. Thanks, in advance, for caring. Together, we can kill this hideous American tradition of tearing apart families of color. #keepfamiliestogether Try Graham too, I think he's moveable on this I sent him an email and got a very generic response that clearly comes from their immigration response folder. Guess I need to give him a call too.
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Post by athn64 on Jun 19, 2018 10:58:24 GMT -6
For those who want more to do, there's a group on Facebook called Sleeping Giants who are targeting the various companies doing business with ICE with a letter writing/email campaign. Those are just two examples, there are more on their Facebook page. I urge everyone to check them out. Just sent these emails and will for sure be checking out that group
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Post by Ls2012 on Jun 19, 2018 11:02:28 GMT -6
Just want to put it out there to contact any of your state's foster agencies.
I know there are 2 in Michigan that are getting immigrant children to place into care and they are desperate for supplies and foster homes.
Bethany Christian Services in Grand Rapids and Samaritas in Lansing, for the interested.
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Post by piratecat on Jun 19, 2018 11:03:31 GMT -6
How do you respond to people using the "what if a stranger came into your house" excuse and saying "what if they are smugglers and drug dealers"? I want to post articles about the breastfeeding mom and others like that but is there a better way? People can be against immigration, I don't know if I can ever change those people's minds. But if "a stranger came into my house" with a breastfeeding baby, no I would not feel inclined to take the baby from her and lock them up away from each other. That is plain cruel and heartless as fuck and I don't care what their excuse is. It blows my mind that people can't see that taking these children away from their parents and the conditions in which they are kept are wrong regardless of your stance on immigration.
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Post by misskilljoy on Jun 19, 2018 11:35:57 GMT -6
regal - March On Canada is planning and promoting events across Canada for June 30. They have a FB page where they're posting info as they have it. My city is ridiculous and has decided to rally at noon on a Thursday instead of marching with the rest of North America on Saturday. Because "Canada Day weekend makes travel impossible". Really? You aren't going to a) join the rest of North America on a meaningful date; or b) harness the increased visibility of Canada's biggest holiday weekend in the national capital? You're going to plan a protest for the heart of downtown in the middle of a work day instead?
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Post by goldenlove on Jun 19, 2018 12:02:16 GMT -6
How do you respond to people using the "what if a stranger came into your house" excuse and saying "what if they are smugglers and drug dealers"? I want to post articles about the breastfeeding mom and others like that but is there a better way? Those seeking asylum aren't strangers coming into your house. It's more like you invited them in out of the rain, but when they showed up to get dry you called the cops and had them arrested for trespassing. My H's response: If you had a neighbor run up to your house and bust through the door screaming for help because someone was after them, what would you do? Would you take their child from them, throw the child in a crate and then have the neighbor arrested for trespassing? I love him.
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Post by jkjacq on Jun 19, 2018 12:18:56 GMT -6
Those seeking asylum aren't strangers coming into your house. It's more like you invited them in out of the rain, but when they showed up to get dry you called the cops and had them arrested for trespassing. My H's response: If you had a neighbor run up to your house and bust through the door screaming for help because someone was after them, what would you do? Would you take their child from them, throw the child in a crate and then have the neighbor arrested for trespassing? I love him. I might have to steal that.
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Post by AmyG on Jun 19, 2018 13:12:39 GMT -6
Even those who think these adult immigrants are committing a crime to come here illegally and those adults need to be punished, they need to be reminded, in the US we do not punish children for the crimes of their parents.
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Post by cougarette on Jun 19, 2018 13:28:06 GMT -6
My MIL shared a FB post saying that "to the trump haters this law was passed in 1997 by Bill Clinton" to which I posted the snopes article stating otherwise.
She also shared a post saying that "700,000 children of deployed military members are separated from their parents". I just cannot with that one.
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Post by jkjacq on Jun 19, 2018 13:32:56 GMT -6
My MIL shared a FB post saying that "to the trump haters this law was passed in 1997 by Bill Clinton" to which I posted the snopes article stating otherwise. She also shared a post saying that "700,000 children of deployed military members are separated from their parents". I just cannot with that one. but those children are not put into kennels, they are most likely with a parent or close relative while the service person is deployed. Also I would bet that there is someone there to hug that kid when they cry missing their mom or dad. FFS
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Post by piratecat on Jun 19, 2018 13:33:58 GMT -6
My MIL shared a FB post saying that "to the trump haters this law was passed in 1997 by Bill Clinton" to which I posted the snopes article stating otherwise. She also shared a post saying that "700,000 children of deployed military members are separated from their parents". I just cannot with that one. What.
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Post by sheilathetank on Jun 19, 2018 13:47:38 GMT -6
I saw something that stated that there is no way for a citizen of a Central American country to come to the US legally other than seeking asylum. I tried to find a source backing this but was unsuccessful. Does anyone know if this is true and if so, where I can find proof. This would be great to show those who keep saying "they should just come here legally and they wouldn't have this problem"
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Post by 4PrivetDrive on Jun 19, 2018 13:50:34 GMT -6
My MIL shared a FB post saying that "to the trump haters this law was passed in 1997 by Bill Clinton" to which I posted the snopes article stating otherwise. She also shared a post saying that "700,000 children of deployed military members are separated from their parents". I just cannot with that one. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. NOT THE SAME. OMG
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Post by tater on Jun 19, 2018 13:57:58 GMT -6
For those who want more to do, there's a group on Facebook called Sleeping Giants who are targeting the various companies doing business with ICE with a letter writing/email campaign. Those are just two examples, there are more on their Facebook page. I urge everyone to check them out. Thank you for sharing. I have sent these emails.
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Post by shadesofgold on Jun 19, 2018 14:07:22 GMT -6
For those of you looking for rally events near you on the 30th, the complete list is here. I'm irritated because very few of the events are being advertised on facebook. I have no idea who is running them, but this feels very sloppy. Same org as the rally at the capitol last week, for which there was no FB event. (I actually think it's just one lady who started that one and got a permit.) Very weird.
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Post by shadesofgold on Jun 19, 2018 14:11:03 GMT -6
For those of you looking for rally events near you on the 30th, the complete list is here. I'm irritated because very few of the events are being advertised on facebook. I have no idea who is running them, but this feels very sloppy. Same org as the rally at the capitol last week, for which there was no FB event. (I actually think it's just one lady who started that one and got a permit.) Very weird. @heartbot maybe you should get in touch and offer your professional services. The problem with grassroots organizing is that rookies need help!
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Post by cougarette on Jun 19, 2018 15:01:34 GMT -6
This made me literally snort.
"It's almost as if they didn't mean it when they said "All Lives Matter""
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Post by cakewench on Jun 19, 2018 15:07:46 GMT -6
Northam is recalling the VA National Guard:
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Post by seabreeze on Jun 19, 2018 15:43:28 GMT -6
misskilljoy I used your letter as a template to send a note to my MP but had to do some doctoring because my riding is not especially... welcoming. My blood is boiling and skin is tingling with his response. Though I should not be surprised.
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Post by jkjacq on Jun 19, 2018 15:48:13 GMT -6
misskilljoy I used your letter as a template to send a note to my MP but had to do some doctoring because my riding is not especially... welcoming. My blood is boiling and skin is tingling with his response. Though I should not be surprised. Ummmm it was established under Bush. Perhaps you should suggest he brush up on whats really going on
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Post by seabreeze on Jun 19, 2018 15:54:00 GMT -6
misskilljoy I used your letter as a template to send a note to my MP but had to do some doctoring because my riding is not especially... welcoming. My blood is boiling and skin is tingling with his response. Though I should not be surprised. Ummmm it was established under Bush. Perhaps you should suggest he brush up on whats really going on Not to mention seeking asylum doesn’t equate to illegal immigration. I don’t know if it’s even worth responding to.
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Post by misskilljoy on Jun 19, 2018 15:59:08 GMT -6
Ummmm it was established under Bush. Perhaps you should suggest he brush up on whats really going on Not to mention seeking asylum doesn’t equate to illegal immigration. I don’t know if it’s even worth responding to. Girl. Spread that on social media. Our elected officials have a fucking DUTY to be educated on these matters.
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Post by seabreeze on Jun 19, 2018 15:59:28 GMT -6
Rather than reply to that email I’m pulling articles and am going to twitter with it. Fuck him.
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Post by misskilljoy on Jun 19, 2018 16:00:33 GMT -6
Ummmm it was established under Bush. Perhaps you should suggest he brush up on whats really going on Not to mention seeking asylum doesn’t equate to illegal immigration. I don’t know if it’s even worth responding to. In fact, may I use the screenshot? I would love to discuss it in my political action groups. I'll also challenge him on it. I have no fear and lots of time because I am on mat leave, LOL.
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Post by seabreeze on Jun 19, 2018 16:03:38 GMT -6
Not to mention seeking asylum doesn’t equate to illegal immigration. I don’t know if it’s even worth responding to. In fact, may I use the screenshot? I would love to discuss it in my political action groups. I'll also challenge him on it. I have no fear and lots of time because I am on mat leave, LOL. Hell yes.
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