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Post by dc2london on Jun 21, 2018 16:36:01 GMT -6
I just. I can't. It won't.
WHAT THE FUCK WAS SHE THINKING.
There’s no way someone can convince me it wasn’t deliberate. Yep. Typical team Trump controlling the news cycle. Let's see how many hours of news coverage Melanie's jacket gets vs the kids who are still separated from their parents.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 16:37:40 GMT -6
There’s no way someone can convince me it wasn’t deliberate. Yep. Typical team Trump controlling the news cycle. Let's see how many hours of news coverage Melanie's jacket gets vs the kids who are still separated from their parents. We need a hashtag for ignore Melania’s jacket, focus on the kids. #icareaboutkidsnotjackets
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Post by dc2london on Jun 21, 2018 16:37:42 GMT -6
In a desperate bid to hold onto his seat, Mike Coffman of Colorado has called for Stephen Miller to be fired.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 21, 2018 16:37:59 GMT -6
Yep. Typical team Trump controlling the news cycle. Let's see how many hours of news coverage Melanie's jacket gets vs the kids who are still separated from their parents. We need a hashtag for ignore Melania’s jacket, focus on the kids. #icareaboutkidsnotjackets #idontreallycaredou
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Post by mb3 on Jun 21, 2018 16:40:46 GMT -6
Anyone have a good resource on discussing this type of issue with kids? My town is having a family rally Saturday and I’d like to go with my kids but am not sure how to explain what we are doing and why in an age appropriate way. They are 4. dc2london because I know your kids go to lots of this stuff with you
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Post by JukEboX on Jun 21, 2018 16:41:21 GMT -6
There’s no way someone can convince me it wasn’t deliberate. Yep. Typical team Trump controlling the news cycle. Let's see how many hours of news coverage Melanie's jacket gets vs the kids who are still separated from their parents. CNN is going on Hour 3 of "JacketWatch"
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Post by mb3 on Jun 21, 2018 16:44:15 GMT -6
Charles Krauthammer passed away
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Post by JukEboX on Jun 21, 2018 16:51:29 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Jun 21, 2018 16:57:22 GMT -6
Anyone have a good resource on discussing this type of issue with kids? My town is having a family rally Saturday and I’d like to go with my kids but am not sure how to explain what we are doing and why in an age appropriate way. They are 4. dc2london because I know your kids go to lots of this stuff with you At 4 I keep it very high level. "Some people don't think that other people should be able to come live in America,but I think America should welcome people." With a four year old I probably wouldn't bring up the family separation bc they might fear it happening to them.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 21, 2018 16:57:43 GMT -6
Yep. Typical team Trump controlling the news cycle. Let's see how many hours of news coverage Melanie's jacket gets vs the kids who are still separated from their parents. CNN is going on Hour 3 of "JacketWatch" Of course they are.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 21, 2018 17:11:36 GMT -6
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Post by JukEboX on Jun 21, 2018 17:41:11 GMT -6
I want to send them an E-Mail with all the thank yous.
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Post by piratecat on Jun 21, 2018 17:48:29 GMT -6
I dont think they are just 'being funny' especially after last weeks comments about how good the 'pink lady' did in praising KJU. Yeah I'm assuming it's real footage, but not being fluent in Korean (and given how completely over the top it is) makes me pause for a second. It is real. North and South Koreans speak different dialects anyway and news broadcasters in both countries especially speak in their own very formal and distinct ways - North Koreans more so (to me anyway) than South Koreans.
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Post by piratecat on Jun 21, 2018 17:53:42 GMT -6
Yep. Typical team Trump controlling the news cycle. Let's see how many hours of news coverage Melanie's jacket gets vs the kids who are still separated from their parents. CNN is going on Hour 3 of "JacketWatch" OMG.
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Post by JukEboX on Jun 21, 2018 18:23:35 GMT -6
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Post by JukEboX on Jun 21, 2018 18:30:09 GMT -6
****TRIGGER WARNING***** For people how can or have lived in poverty. The author does a great job showing many are going through now. Especially children.
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Post by piratecat on Jun 21, 2018 18:44:12 GMT -6
US Border Patrol set up a checkpoint on the highway in our state to ask drivers if they were US citizens. It’s just all too much.
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Post by athn64 on Jun 21, 2018 18:44:46 GMT -6
US Border Patrol set up a checkpoint on the highway in our state to ask drivers if they were US citizens. It’s just all too much. Which state? This isn't legal more than 100 miles from the border.
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Post by doublestuf on Jun 21, 2018 18:48:47 GMT -6
X1000 that it was completely deliberate. As a former model and now FLOTUS, she is and for a very long time, has been extremely aware of her clothing choices and image. It's literally her job. Hell, I would assume she has people that she consults for such things.
When (general) we continue to question if these people are tone deaf or idiots, we are just showing that we haven't accepted that they are blatantly being racists/xenophobics/etc. Why do we want to make excuses and basically give them second and third and fourth chances? This is where, as largely white liberal ladies (and a man!), we've got to do so soul-searching because we can do better. They've shown a thousand times over their beliefs.
I know it's shocking that KN would eat at a Mexican restaurant the other night and then that this bitch would wear this because it's so explicitly and in your face hateful, but we know they don't care. They know there are ZERO repercussions.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 21, 2018 19:09:01 GMT -6
This is so messed up and it will also destroy the USDA budget, which will kill services. And jobs
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Post by dc2london on Jun 21, 2018 19:11:00 GMT -6
I'm glad I resisted the temptation to write Avenatti off as a publicity seeking grifter-- he's now representing several people migrant and refugee parents in the fight to be reunited with their children, as well as ICE and CBP whistleblowers.
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Post by piratecat on Jun 21, 2018 19:36:30 GMT -6
US Border Patrol set up a checkpoint on the highway in our state to ask drivers if they were US citizens. It’s just all too much. Which state? This isn't legal more than 100 miles from the border. They were within 100 miles of the Canadian border.
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Post by shadesofgold on Jun 21, 2018 20:26:46 GMT -6
Anyone have a good resource on discussing this type of issue with kids? My town is having a family rally Saturday and I’d like to go with my kids but am not sure how to explain what we are doing and why in an age appropriate way. They are 4. dc2london because I know your kids go to lots of this stuff with you At 4 I keep it very high level. "Some people don't think that other people should be able to come live in America,but I think America should welcome people." With a four year old I probably wouldn't bring up the family separation bc they might fear it happening to them. My kid is only 2, so this may not work for you, but I've just been finding the storylines in books we're already reading to stop and reinforce the general theme of "everyone is special and deserves our love." (For older kids you could add the theme of speaking up for others, right vs. Wrong, etc) Have you read Here We Are? It's newish and lovely. www.amazon.com/Here-We-Are-Living-Planet/dp/0399167897One teachable moment page:
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Post by honeylemon on Jun 21, 2018 20:37:51 GMT -6
At 4 I keep it very high level. "Some people don't think that other people should be able to come live in America,but I think America should welcome people." With a four year old I probably wouldn't bring up the family separation bc they might fear it happening to them. My kid is only 2, so this may not work for you, but I've just been finding the storylines in books we're already reading to stop and reinforce the general theme of "everyone is special and deserves our love." (For older kids you could add the theme of speaking up for others, right vs. Wrong, etc) Have you read Here We Are? It's newish and lovely. www.amazon.com/Here-We-Are-Living-Planet/dp/0399167897One teachable moment page: I love Oliver Jeffers. He’s one of my new favorite children’s authors. So so good.
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Post by mb3 on Jun 21, 2018 20:41:41 GMT -6
At 4 I keep it very high level. "Some people don't think that other people should be able to come live in America,but I think America should welcome people." With a four year old I probably wouldn't bring up the family separation bc they might fear it happening to them. My kid is only 2, so this may not work for you, but I've just been finding the storylines in books we're already reading to stop and reinforce the general theme of "everyone is special and deserves our love." (For older kids you could add the theme of speaking up for others, right vs. Wrong, etc) Have you read Here We Are? It's newish and lovely. www.amazon.com/Here-We-Are-Living-Planet/dp/0399167897One teachable moment page: Thank you for this. And for your suggestions dc2london. My daughter brought a book home from school this year about segregation and I sort of opened it blindly and unprepared. It was a great book and I think I did ok just elaborating on the words in the book but I wished I had planned it better. We are getting back home from our road trip right before the rally so I can get books after, but not before. We will look for this book (or similar) during our next library trip. Also, we have a few other books sort of along this theme that I hadn’t thought of. Once we are home I can share those titles too.
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Post by regal on Jun 21, 2018 20:46:56 GMT -6
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Post by piratecat on Jun 22, 2018 5:49:19 GMT -6
Huh. I didn’t think of the coast as a border so I guess I live inside the extended border. I don’t even understand what kind of papers they are looking to see. Birth certificate? Passports? Naturalization certificate? People don’t carry those around. I also don’t understand and am bothered by the emphasis on citizenship because there are a lot of people that are here legally that are not citizens.
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Post by notblanche on Jun 22, 2018 5:56:15 GMT -6
At 4 I keep it very high level. "Some people don't think that other people should be able to come live in America,but I think America should welcome people." With a four year old I probably wouldn't bring up the family separation bc they might fear it happening to them. My kid is only 2, so this may not work for you, but I've just been finding the storylines in books we're already reading to stop and reinforce the general theme of "everyone is special and deserves our love." (For older kids you could add the theme of speaking up for others, right vs. Wrong, etc) Have you read Here We Are? It's newish and lovely. www.amazon.com/Here-We-Are-Living-Planet/dp/0399167897One teachable moment page: I just added this to my Amazon cart. How wonderful. And the illustrations are lovely.
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Post by jkjacq on Jun 22, 2018 6:16:29 GMT -6
So I've been resistbotting. I got a 'thank you for your email' from Risch, computer generated, and the following from Crapo Thank you for contacting me regarding border security. I share your interest in a workable immigration system and welcome the opportunity to respond. On May 4, 2017, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) released a statement emphasizing a zero-tolerance policy for individuals entering the county illegally. If caught, undocumented individuals entering the country will be detained and prosecuted regardless of whether they are “a single adult or an adult member of a family unit.” The announcement comes in response to an increased number of attempted illegal crossings along the southern border. President Donald Trump signed the Executive Order “Affording Congress an Opportunity to Address Family Separation” on June 20, 2018. The order maintains the zero-tolerance policy while allowing families to be held together in detention centers, unless there is immediate danger to the undocumented children. Immigration proceedings involving families will be given priority under the order as well. I agree that children should not be separated from their families and the issue needs to be resolved quickly. I am an original co-sponsor of legislation that aims to permanently end the practice and keep families together, provide detention housing suited for family units and increase the number of immigration judges to reduce wait times. I will continue to support these measures and others that secure our borders and provide safety for those seeking asylum or otherwise legally to enter the United States. Throughout my time in Congress I have consistently maintained that there is a real need for a rational immigration policy that is built on several important principles: • First, the United States must commit the resources necessary to have the strongest border enforcement realistically possible. Preservation of the integrity of our borders is essential to immigration policy as well as our national security. • Second, our immigration system must not grant amnesty to those who enter our country illegally or illegally overstay their visas. No person who breaks the law should obtain any benefit toward either permanent legal residency or citizenship as a result of their illegal conduct. This is unfair both to American citizens and to those who have gone through legal channels for immigration to the U.S. • Third, non-citizens must not be afforded the same means-tested, federal benefits available to U.S. citizens. Federal public benefit programs exist as a manifestation of the American aspiration to take care of our own less fortunate. In today’s fiscal climate, the solvency of these programs is ill-fated at best, making it nothing less than irresponsible to exacerbate these programs’ financial constraints by extending eligibility to individuals who are not U.S. citizens. • Fourth, our immigration system must assure that American citizens have the first right to access available jobs. There is significant debate about whether American citizens are losing U.S. jobs to workers from other countries. However, this debate can be resolved by assuring that any jobs made available in a legal guest worker program are first available to U.S. workers. Manageable ways to assure this have already been identified. • Fifth, an efficient and workable guest worker program must be developed that will provide employers with a reliable, verifiable and legal system to identify guest workers who are legally in the country. Realizing the significant impact of reforms to federal immigration law, I will continue to press for a solid solution that will secure our nation’s borders, not provide incentives for further illegal immigration through rewarding illegal entry, and implement sound, sensible immigration policy based on the rule of law. Again, thank you for contacting me. Please feel free to contact me in the future on this or other matters of interest to you. For more information about the issues before the U.S. Senate as well as news releases, photos, and other items of interest, please visit my Senate website, crapo.senate.gov . Sincerely, US SenatorSenator Mike Crapo Mike Crapo United States Senator My response back is going to include "does overstaying a visa include the FLOTUS and her parents?" "when you say detention centers, dont you really mean concentration/internment camps" "what jobs are Americans losing, because there ain't no white people pulling weeds in a sugar beet field that I've ever seen in my 30 years in Idaho, not to mention our dairy industry is heavily reliant on immigrant labor." before I go off on social programs I need to find out exactly which programs. Because you can't collect SNAP, etc unless you ARE a citizen.
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Post by enchanted on Jun 22, 2018 6:32:20 GMT -6
Undocumented immigrants crossing the border illegally are committing misdemeanors. Jared Kushner committed felonies on his forms. Which one is being prosecuted?
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