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Post by miawallace on Jun 13, 2018 20:44:45 GMT -6
To go back to Molly and the other Weasley's for a minute. They are just as racist as the Slytherin's, but because they are on the "light" side, it's never addressed. They see the Muggles as less than too, but more as children that need to be protected. That has bugged me for years. They are obnoxious about all things muggles. They remind me of the folks who try really hard to get poc so they act a certain way around them and it comes across very obnoxious and even hurtful.
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Post by mischief on Jun 13, 2018 20:44:57 GMT -6
I love hating on Dumbledore almost as much as I love hating on Steven Moffat. He makes it too easy I swear.
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Post by mischief on Jun 13, 2018 20:46:37 GMT -6
I dont hate Arthur as much as some of the other Weasleys though. And maybe Bill and Charlie. But I will never forgive Molly for her treatment of Sirius in OoTP and Hermione in GOF.
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Post by miawallace on Jun 13, 2018 20:47:53 GMT -6
I dont hate Arthur as much as some of the other Weasleys though. And maybe Bill and Charlie. But I will never forgive Molly for her treatment of Sirius in OoTP and Hermione in GOF. A mother in law like her gives me the shudders.
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Post by mischief on Jun 13, 2018 20:49:08 GMT -6
I dont hate Arthur as much as some of the other Weasleys though. And maybe Bill and Charlie. But I will never forgive Molly for her treatment of Sirius in OoTP and Hermione in GOF. A mother in law like her gives me the shudders. And her planning Bill and Fleurs wedding, yikes.
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Post by athn64 on Jun 13, 2018 20:49:42 GMT -6
To go back to Molly and the other Weasley's for a minute. They are just as racist as the Slytherin's, but because they are on the "light" side, it's never addressed. They see the Muggles as less than too, but more as children that need to be protected. That has bugged me for years. They are obnoxious about all things muggles. They remind me of the folks who try really hard to get poc so they act a certain way around them and it comes across very obnoxious and even hurtful. The times Arthur comments about things. I feel so bad for Hermione's parents. I feel like the book let's them use the "But I have a _____ friend" excuse and get away with it.
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Post by athn64 on Jun 13, 2018 20:50:47 GMT -6
I dont hate Arthur as much as some of the other Weasleys though. And maybe Bill and Charlie. But I will never forgive Molly for her treatment of Sirius in OoTP and Hermione in GOF. I like Arthur, but I feel like he's one of the worst ones. Like he'd be one of those people that felt they had the right to go up and touch a black woman's hair. No. Just stop.
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Post by miawallace on Jun 13, 2018 20:51:13 GMT -6
A mother in law like her gives me the shudders. And her planning Bill and Fleurs wedding, yikes. I really hated how they would make fun of fleur. I'm salty because I use to get made fun of growing up because I didn't speak english correctly or spell it correctly. It felt very mean girls and let's be honest, jealous of how beautiful she is.
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Post by badwolf on Jun 13, 2018 20:55:40 GMT -6
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Post by athn64 on Jun 13, 2018 21:02:06 GMT -6
He never had proof that Riddle did it that they could use. And Hagrid did get expelled for it. But he should done more to help Draco. Given him some hint during the school year that he was available. Offer him an out. Not just be annoyingly vague and plan to have Snape do it himself.
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Post by miawallace on Jun 13, 2018 21:07:20 GMT -6
He never had proof that Riddle did it that they could use. And Hagrid did get expelled for it. But he should done more to help Draco. Given him some hint during the school year that he was available. Offer him an out. Not just be annoyingly vague and plan to have Snape do it himself. Yes, like how hard would it have been to talk to him at school directly. Like he picks the nignt at the astronomy tower to have this convo. That's how I now know how awful dumplejeek was. Although, the order hasn't been great at protecting people either. I wouldn't trust dumble either.
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Post by miawallace on Jun 13, 2018 21:09:35 GMT -6
That's why I feel like Draco could had so much potential. That nignt at the astronomy tower shouldn't have been the first time dumblejerk could have reached out in person. Or told harry what was going on so st least he'd back off. I dont know. That whole thing irked me. He told harry he wouldn't keep him in the dark anymore, but he still did.
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Post by marygracerich on Jun 13, 2018 21:11:04 GMT -6
I think I have mentioned this before somewhere but I will say it again. My problem with fan fic is that I get too involved. I want to absorb it all while at the same time I find it very very overwhelming because there is so much of it. I don’t have the time I would like to dedicate to it. I have a 3 year old and 5mo that suck up too much of my time. Lol I am also in the middle of a cross stitch project that I want to finish by the end of the year. It’s not looking likely. I used to read sailor moon fic in high school. I would print it at the library and spend days reading it. I have an e copy of Half blood prince that I am reading now but it is from the library and I am not going to get to finish it before my loan is up. I will have to put it on hold again and that is going to annoy me.
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Post by marygracerich on Jun 13, 2018 21:12:35 GMT -6
That's why I feel like Draco could had so much potential. That nignt at the astronomy tower shouldn't have been the first time dumblejerk could have reached out in person. Or told harry what was going on so st least he'd back off. I dont know. That whole thing irked me. He told harry he wouldn't keep him in the dark anymore, but he still did. My only issue with this theory is that even if Dumbledore reached out, Draco would have never believed him. From the very beginning Draco was convinced by his father that Dumbledore was the worst.
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Post by miawallace on Jun 13, 2018 21:12:52 GMT -6
This right here. If this doesn't show how his true colors are.
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Post by miawallace on Jun 13, 2018 21:17:02 GMT -6
That's why I feel like Draco could had so much potential. That nignt at the astronomy tower shouldn't have been the first time dumblejerk could have reached out in person. Or told harry what was going on so st least he'd back off. I dont know. That whole thing irked me. He told harry he wouldn't keep him in the dark anymore, but he still did. My only issue with this theory is that even if Dumbledore reached out, Draco would have never believed him. From the very beginning Draco was convinced by his father that Dumbledore was the worst. I mean yes. But he was trying to cram an intervention at the 11th hour. I just think he was manipulative and Draco wasn't on the right side so he didn't really try hard enough to reach out.
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Post by badwolf on Jun 13, 2018 21:17:06 GMT -6
Honestly one of the most satisfying moments for me in the series was when Harry just tore apart Dumbledore’s office at the end of Order. The stupid calm talk in the movie pissed me off more than the entirety of POA as a movie.
Dumbledore avoided Harry that whole school year just like with Draco.
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Post by athn64 on Jun 13, 2018 21:19:50 GMT -6
I think I have mentioned this before somewhere but I will say it again. My problem with fan fic is that I get too involved. I want to absorb it all while at the same time I find it very very overwhelming because there is so much of it. I don’t have the time I would like to dedicate to it. I have a 3 year old and 5mo that suck up too much of my time. Lol I am also in the middle of a cross stitch project that I want to finish by the end of the year. It’s not looking likely. I used to read sailor moon fic in high school. I would print it at the library and spend days reading it. I have an e copy of Half blood prince that I am reading now but it is from the library and I am not going to get to finish it before my loan is up. I will have to put it on hold again and that is going to annoy me. I'm right there with you on the time suck. I started an embroidery project for DD2, and instead of working on it tonight, I'm in here discussing the merits of various HP characters.
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Post by athn64 on Jun 13, 2018 21:20:55 GMT -6
This right here. If this doesn't show how his true colors are. Why does it have to be one or the other? My answer is neither.
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Post by miawallace on Jun 13, 2018 21:22:02 GMT -6
This right here. If this doesn't show how his true colors are. Why does it have to be one or the other? My answer is neither. Oh I just ignored the bottom part. I was just trying to quote the exchange. They are both the worst.
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Post by athn64 on Jun 13, 2018 21:25:57 GMT -6
Why does it have to be one or the other? My answer is neither. Oh I just ignored the bottom part. I was just trying to quote the exchange. They are both the worst. One of the cloth diaper FB groups I'm in, everyone is obsessed with Snape. They are definitely all stuck in step 2. It bugs me to no end. They like Dumbledore too. These are not role models to emulate people!
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Post by miawallace on Jun 13, 2018 21:27:38 GMT -6
Oh I just ignored the bottom part. I was just trying to quote the exchange. They are both the worst. One of the cloth diaper FB groups I'm in, everyone is obsessed with Snape. They are definitely all stuck in step 2. It bugs me to no end. They like Dumbledore too. These are not role models to emulate people! Well you can talk cloth diapers with me. Which, by the way, I'm stuffing my pockets at the moment. We can both hate Snape together. :-)
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Post by athn64 on Jun 13, 2018 21:34:16 GMT -6
One of the cloth diaper FB groups I'm in, everyone is obsessed with Snape. They are definitely all stuck in step 2. It bugs me to no end. They like Dumbledore too. These are not role models to emulate people! Well you can talk cloth diapers with me. Which, by the way, I'm stuffing my pockets at the moment. We can both hate Snape together. :-) Lol. Sounds good! Though, I really just need to sell off my last diapers and start leaving groups. Both my kids are PT'ed. Then their annoyance will disappear.
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Post by mischief on Jun 13, 2018 21:47:35 GMT -6
I dont hate Arthur as much as some of the other Weasleys though. And maybe Bill and Charlie. But I will never forgive Molly for her treatment of Sirius in OoTP and Hermione in GOF. I like Arthur, but I feel like he's one of the worst ones. Like he'd be one of those people that felt they had the right to go up and touch a black woman's hair. No. Just stop. Granted its been a long ass times since Ive read the books but I always felt he was more curious and fascinated by Muggles than malicious like he is just super curious and wants to ask a million questions. I always got the impression he was impressed with muggles because of what they accomplished without magic and had a certain level of respect for them. He was even nice to the Dursleys
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Post by mischief on Jun 13, 2018 21:48:43 GMT -6
What I want to know is if Hagrid was cleared for the monster thing and got his wand back and was able to finish his schooling.
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Post by mischief on Jun 13, 2018 21:53:39 GMT -6
marygracerich, one of the nice things about fic is you dont have to borrow it! Its always just there. And then there are the long ones you can get lost in but there are also amazing short one shots that give more feels and experience than the entire book.
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Post by pianolove on Jun 14, 2018 8:43:43 GMT -6
To go back to Molly and the other Weasley's for a minute. They are just as racist as the Slytherin's, but because they are on the "light" side, it's never addressed. They see the Muggles as less than too, but more as children that need to be protected. That has bugged me for years. Yes. Ron's eye rolling about SPEW and other things. This also speaks to why the line about her accountant cousin bothered me so much. So because he doesn't have magic, he is "less than," an embarrassment, and has been ultimately shunned by the weasleys. Wtf?
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Post by marygracerich on Jun 15, 2018 5:25:46 GMT -6
I finished HBP. I am going to start deathly hollows soon.
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Post by 4PrivetDrive on Jun 15, 2018 9:08:18 GMT -6
Part of why I'm a here is that thread to be honest. It's like where has all this been all my life? I clicked on Isolation one day (thank you athn64 ) and then I've been sort of a Harry Potter fanfic hermit since then. Well I sound exciting. <iframe width="27.24000000000001" height="3.9000000000000057" style="position: absolute; width: 27.24px; height: 3.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 14px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_54625194" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="27.24000000000001" height="3.9000000000000057" style="position: absolute; width: 27.24px; height: 3.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1299px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_29126130" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="27.24000000000001" height="3.9000000000000057" style="position: absolute; width: 27.24px; height: 3.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 14px; top: 135px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_39041803" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="27.24000000000001" height="3.9000000000000057" style="position: absolute; width: 27.24px; height: 3.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1299px; top: 135px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_14735769" scrolling="no"></iframe> This is basically my life. I just hang out at home and read fanfic all day. I wasnt satisfied with the ending of the Hunger Games so I went looking for more. And now it consumes me and I couldnt be happier. I need to read more Hunger Games fics. Time to spiral.
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Post by 4PrivetDrive on Jun 15, 2018 9:11:30 GMT -6
I love watching Tom Felton's live videos on Instagram. He's always so beachy and singing with his guitar. Always smiling and charismatic. Opposite of what I imagine Draco to be. Lol I loved his video on reusable straws. He's adorable.
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