Informal DOR Check-In 6/11

[lemonliz]

Hi, friends!

I cannot find the note where I keep all of my check-in tags so it'll be an informal check-in for now. I'm a mess today

This is a check in for anyone who is a poor responder (DOR/POF/POI) no matter what kind of treatment you're pursuing. If you've never joined us before but you were thinking about it, come and say hi!

What's going on with you this week?

[amberr]

Hi, lemonliz! How's everything going for you?? Not much exciting here. Natural cycle, should O some time this week. I'm not gonna do any OPK. lol yeah right. I'm sure I'll buy some after work tomorrow. I'll get paranoid the doc will say yes to EPP and I'll want a general idea if O date. *shrug*

[bonzo]

We have a single, beautiful, frozen embryo! It's not the number we had hoped for, but the embryologist I talked to today said it looks beautiful, so for the next week or so until we get the PGS results I'm choosing to be optimistic.

amberr, I would totally break down and do the OPKs. I enjoyed the break from temping while IVF was controlling my cycle, but I think I'm going to pick it up again with my wash month. I just like knowing what's happening in my body.

[Dogpaddle29]

amberr good luck this cycle! I hope you can have some fun whether you decide to use the OPKs or not.

bonzo I hope the PGS testing comes back great and this is your lucky one!

Still just waiting. My lining and blood work is Tuesday. I am so ready for transfer.
This week is going to be rough. I have coworkers out of the office so my work load will be heavy and longer hours and a family member passed suddenly this morning so I'm sure there will be things involving the service and taking care of the ones effected the most.
Ugh I just wish it was next week and transfer day!! Oh also Yosemite. I am still hoping we can go for a few days next week.


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[bonzo]

I'm sorry for your loss, Dogpaddle29. I hope you're able to get to Yosemite next week, it sounds like a break will be needed!

[amberr]

Dogpaddle29 I'm sorry for your loss. Hugs.

bonzo FX for the 1!!!

[babyhopes]

When do you find out if your RE will agree to EPP, amberr?

Rooting so hard for your one, bonzo!

Hope your lining looks beautiful tomorrow, Dogpaddle29.

AFM, had my BW this morning and should receive my results later this week. I am so nervous to see what my AMH is now! Now, just waiting on AF to move forward with our new RE.

I called my old clinic Thursday to get the ball rolling on transferring my embryos, but I still haven't heard anything. I plan on calling tomorrow so we aren't delayed when we're ready to move forward with our FET.

[amberr]

babyhopes my appointment is the 23rd. I'm thinking about cancelling. I don't wanna spend the consult money, especially when I honestly don't expect it to work. Ya know. *shrug*

[amberr]

babyhopes eeekk. I'm excited for y'all to get started with the new RE!!!

[woodenshoes]

amberr, I hate spending money on consults for this stuff. I hope you can figure out a good plan for your next treatment cycle. Also, I wanted to chime in on one of the previous posts that I liked your avatar...I am another big Disney person.

bonzo, I am glad you have one embryo, hopefully, you get good results with the PGS testing.

Dogpaddle29, I am sorry for your loss. It sounds like you have a busy week.

babyhopes, I was so nervous waiting for my AMH level a couple months ago.

AFM, I started stims last Friday. I had 6 follicles at baseline last Friday and that was all they saw this morning. My next u/s is Friday. For those of you who have been through the complete IVF process did you go completely under for egg retrieval or did you just do local anesthesia? I am wondering how terrible/painful it is if you just do local anesthesia. To be completely under costs an extra 400 dollars. I probably will XP this question on the IVF check-in.

[bonzo]

woodenshoes, I was completely under for retrieval. Based on my cyst aspiration, which they just had me take Tylenol for, I'm glad that I was out for retrieval. They're essentially the same technique, but with egg retrieval of course they have to get every follicle so it's more stabbing and much more time. If your RE is ok either way, it's personal preference. But for me I'd rather be out!

[dp21]

Umm I made it over lol

Sorry I've been MIA again, so I passed boards, lost my job, then got a sweet job interview but then the interview sucked ass. Worst interview of my life. Then they called me today for a second interview, soo shocked.

I've been up since 5am because it's a 3 hour round trip to do blood draw/US at new clinic. I started stimms tonight and was soo tired I didn't reduce the lupron. Injected 10 units instead of 5. I called the on call line and they said "don't worry, it's fine." I am trying not to beat myself up about it.

[amberr]

dp21 I haaaattteee the long commute for BW!! I'm glad you made it over here. I hate being split between 2 forums. Good luck with the 2nd interview and stims!!

woodenshoes my love for Disney knows no bounds!

[lemonliz]

Hey guys! Sorry I'm late! It's been a crazy week.

amberr, I would just use the OPK! Why not!

bonzo, I'm so freaking happy about your frosty! I hope that the PGS results come quickly. I hate waiting after ER. I hate that waiting the most.

Dogpaddle29, I hope the days fly by for you! Yosemite sounds amazing. I hope you get there next week.

babyhopes FX for no decrease in AMH. Will that number dictate how your new RE says to proceed?

woodenshoes, good luck on Friday! 6 is good! 6 mature would be amazing. All my FX!

Oh also, yep, I always pay the $400 for twilight-like anesthesia. Less because of pain and more because I just seriously will stress out too much worrying. But my friend Sammae who used to be active on this thread always did hers in canada with Valium and Percocet or something like that. They don't put them completely under there.

dp21, I'm so sorry you lost your job! I hope everything goes super well with your interview. I wouldn't worry about the Lupron reduction for just this first injection. It'll be okay.

[lemonliz]

I'm on day 3 of stims and I took my last letrozole this afternoon. I go in tomorrow for b/w and u/s. I'm guessing maybe next week we'll drive out to NYC.

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Jun 14, 2017 18:07:38 GMT -6 lemonliz said:

I'm on day 3 of stims and I took my last letrozole this afternoon. I go in tomorrow for b/w and u/s. I'm guessing maybe next week we'll drive out to NYC.

Come visit me!


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[dp21]

bonzo, with DOR one can be great!!!! I'm staying optimistic for you. I have had a couple of cycles where I never made it to blast. FX it is normal. I truly believe it only takes one. I hope this is your golden embryo!

Dogpaddle29, so sorry for your loss. Hope you are hanging in there.

babyhopes, I am not sure how much stock I take in AMH, mine was 0.5 at 29 then went up to 1 at 32. I was like shouldn't it be deceasing? I haven't had it re-tested this year.

woodenshoes, I have experienced both. So for my first IVF my clinic did twilight. I was awake and saying loopy things to the doctors lol. B/c of drugs and time, it is soo foggy. I remember feeling and saying, "It hurts." Then they would give me a dose of fentanyl to help with that and I remember saying "it hurts" a few times but honestly it's really foggy. When I returned to do IVF a couple of years later, my clinic switched to knocking me out. For me, the 400 bucks is worth being knocked out. No pain, you wake up and it's done. I guess at this point what's 400 bucks when already in the hole lol

lemonliz, thanks for the reassurance and yay you are stimming!!!!! And thanks about the job, I guess the thing is, I probably wouldn't want to work for them anyway but pretty shitty thing to do after accepting and having everything in writing. I was just waiting on lawyer to draw up contract.

[babyhopes]

I'm sorry, amberr. I know all too well what giving up hope feels like. I am still hopeful for you! I would go forward with the consult. That could be the protocol you need to have success.

I think it's worth the extra $400 to go under, woodenshoes. Good luck Friday!

Yay! Glad you made it over, dp21. It's a three hour round trip for me as well. It definitely sucks when you're only there for 10 mins and have to drive home. Sorry about the job. GL at your second interview.

[babyhopes]

lemonliz, Good luck with monitoring today.

My AMH wouldn't change things from my RE's standpoint, but DH and I will most likely stim again if it's any lower. We do have two frozen but we don't want to transfer those and have nothing if our cycles don't work. If it's around the same then we'll probably do a FET and then stim if our next cycle doesn't work. I just wish I knew the right thing to do. Hopefully I'll get my results today.

He said he would use Femara if we decided to stim again. I'm not sure what else so no idea on what protocol that'd be. Is Femara standard for EPP?

[lemonliz]

Jun 15, 2017 9:28:16 GMT -6 babyhopes said:

lemonliz, Good luck with monitoring today.

My AMH wouldn't change things from my RE's standpoint, but DH and I will most likely stim again if it's any lower. We do have two frozen but we don't want to transfer those and have nothing if our cycles don't work. If it's around the same then we'll probably do a FET and then stim if our next cycle doesn't work. I just wish I knew the right thing to do. Hopefully I'll get my results today.

He said he would use Femara if we decided to stim again. I'm not sure what else so no idea on what protocol that'd be. Is Femara standard for EPP?

I think that's a good idea! Just get all the eggs out now and be done with it. That's how I look at it 😜😂

Usually you just take Femara from day 2- day 6, and on day 4 you start Follistim so there's a few days of overlap.

I did the EPP before hand (for a long time) and stopped it a few days before Femara but that's not usual. This was my own concoction since my body seemed to like both Femara and EPP separately so we figured why not. It worked decently well last time. If this doesn't go so well this time we will nix the Femara next time.

[woodenshoes]

dp21 I am sorry you lost your job. Congrats on passing boards. I hope this cycle goes well for you.

[woodenshoes]

lemonliz Yay for stimming. I hope your u/s went well this today.

[woodenshoes]

So, I got the rest of my injection medicine in the mail yesterday. The needles for the trigger shot and PIO look scary. I am nervous about them.

[dp21]

woodenshoes, are u doing your own injections or can your SO help? I have my hubby do all my shots. It makes it more bearable for me. The IM shot isn't bad, it is just PIO makes you sore like the next day (like you just did a butt workout at gym). More from the medication vs. actual needle.

[bonzo]

So I called in with CD1 today, and my nurse wants us to consider doing another stim cycle to hopefully bank some embryos. This would of course push back when we thought we were doing FET...but it definitely would be easier to do another stim cycle before the semester starts rather than during the school year should it come to that. Any advice? Things to consider when deciding which way to go with this?

Whatever we decide, we're using this cycle as a wash month, so we have a bit of time to decide. But...so many options to weigh.

[amberr]

Jun 15, 2017 19:46:17 GMT -6 bonzo said:

So I called in with CD1 today, and my nurse wants us to consider doing another stim cycle to hopefully bank some embryos. This would of course push back when we thought we were doing FET...but it definitely would be easier to do another stim cycle before the semester starts rather than during the school year should it come to that. Any advice? Things to consider when deciding which way to go with this?

Whatever we decide, we're using this cycle as a wash month, so we have a bit of time to decide. But...so many options to weigh.

since I haven't done IVF, take my opinion with a grain of salt since I don't know the physical toll it takes on you. But. Being DOR, I think i would bank another cycle. I sent my info to a doc in another clinic for opinions on my current treatnent. He said I should be doing banking cycles to "make hay while the sun shines". Good luck deciding what to do!

[woodenshoes]

dp21 my husband has been giving me all my shots. I may have to give them to myself tonight unless I want to have my husband give me them at his work. He works at a hospital so it would be okay. The plan is for him to give me the PIO shots too. I know I will be fine... just nerves and anxiety! Thanks for the input.

[specter]

Thanks for the check-in, lemonliz! So many FX for you this cycle. I truly hope this is it for you. You've been through enough of this hell and really deserve to be done with it.

I'm sorry that you only ended up with 1 embryo, bonzo. If I were in your shoes, I'd probably do another cycle to bank.

Dogpaddle29, I'm so sorry for you loss. ((Hugs))

babyhopes - We're bloodwork buddies! I also did another AMH draw on Monday so I'll go over that with my next follow-up with the RE. FX for your results, and I hope you love your new RE!

woodenshoes, I think I answered this in another thread, but I had general anesthesia for one ER, and local for the second. I preferred the local, to be honest. I got to watch the big screen TV with H and see them retrieve each egg. A nurse stood beside me, just talking us through everything, and was basically there for emotional support. I had I think 27 eggs retrieved, and it only got a little painful with the last 5 or so. My retrieval was at 7:30 in the morning, and I was back at work at noon. I assure you that it's nothing to be afraid of, if you decide to do local

dp21, I'm so sorry for the lost job and the horrible interview. FX for the second interview!! You will do amazing I am sure!

[specter]

AFM - After a 48 day cycle (WTF body, are we really going to go back to this after all these 27 day cycles?), AF showed up on Saturday. Did some follow-up bloodwork, but didn't make it on the list for my SHG this time. Hopefully next cycle. Still on the wait list to do another IVF after all the follow-up testing is done. Nothing much new

[dp21]

woodenshoes, invest in a good heating pad for your butt

bonzo, So I guess I'll have strong opinions for you haha. So my hx I've been through 3.5 IVF cycles (the 1/2 is a cancelled one) and just started my fifth cycle. I would say bank now while you are young. Eggs are just going to get older as time goes on. Also if you bank now, it's usually one price to genetically test up to a certain amount of embryos . Also since you are more free cycling now would be much easier. FETS are easy and can be fit into a busy schedule in the future. Also one embryo might be your baby but what if you want more? See below. Also what if it does fail and then you are back to your busy schedule this fall.

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And as most of you know, I'm ttc a sibling. Our daughter was from first IVF cycle 3 years ago. This year we had two failed fresh IVFS, a failed FET, and a miscarriage...and now a cancelled cycle at new clinic. Part of me wonders if we would have been better off banking 3 years ago when I was 29 (now I'm 33). I didn't have the hind sight I have now thinking past the first baby, when I know most of you would die to have one. I feel soo fortunate, and I didn't realize how hard it would hit me that I really want her to have a sibling. But I do think quite often about egg quality and how 3.5 years has probably influenced how things are going now especially being DOR. Another dilemma I've dealt with is that even though I'm pro-choice, I don't think I could discard healthy embryos. But since you only produced one, I don't think you are in danger of that issue if that is a personal issue for you.
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