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Post by blurnette989 on May 24, 2018 3:58:21 GMT -6
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Post by blurnette989 on May 24, 2018 4:10:30 GMT -6
While it does go against my natural instincts, it also makes sense to me. People in the middle want the boat to be rocked as little as possible. They just want to live their lives out without drama. Also so many people truly don't pay as much attention, so the idea of strong leadership that keeps things steady for their daily lives is appealing.
This applies similarly to Americans who don't want to deal with racism or sexism (and have the privilege not to). If it isn't changing their daily lives substantially, they just don't care that much.
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Post by 100poppies on May 24, 2018 4:45:08 GMT -6
I would also think centrists are less likely to vote. It’s the people who feel strongly that will go the furthest to be heard. I would think rainy days, busy schedules, etc, would decrease the vote for a centrist more easily.
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Post by enchanted on May 24, 2018 6:04:34 GMT -6
I would also think centrists are less likely to vote. It’s the people who feel strongly that will go the furthest to be heard. I would think rainy days, busy schedules, etc, would decrease the vote for a centrist more easily. It's definitely the case for primaries, typically. The hardcore right and left are the ones deciding the candidates so that by the time the general election comes along, even if centrists don't stay home, it's a choice between two or three. |
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Post by enchanted on May 24, 2018 6:11:11 GMT -6
I found the part about wanting a strong leader interesting.
45 is weak, but during the campaign, he portrayed himself as big and loud and strong and HRC as weak. I'm not saying there wasn't sexism and racism (being anti-Obama), because those were two of the largest factors at play in the voting booth. The strongman part just caught my attention.
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Post by blurnette989 on May 24, 2018 6:17:41 GMT -6
I found the part about wanting a strong leader interesting. 45 is weak, but during the campaign, he portrayed himself and big and loud and strong and HRC as weak. I'm not saying there wasn't sexism and racism (being anti-Obama), because those were two of the largest factors at play in the voting booth. The strongman part just caught my attention. I think in reality he is a weak leader, but I wonder how many people think that in the US? He doesn't have very high approvals based on polls, but I wonder if people who don't follow politics would say they think he is a strong leader, whether they agree with all his policies or rhetoric, or not. I could see that. |
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Post by 100poppies on May 24, 2018 6:30:57 GMT -6
I found the part about wanting a strong leader interesting. 45 is weak, but during the campaign, he portrayed himself and big and loud and strong and HRC as weak. I'm not saying there wasn't sexism and racism (being anti-Obama), because those were two of the largest factors at play in the voting booth. The strongman part just caught my attention. I think in reality he is a weak leader, but I wonder how many people think that in the US? He doesn't have very high approvals based on polls, but I wonder if people who don't follow politics would say they think he is a strong leader, whether they agree with all his policies or rhetoric, or not. I could see that. I think of your only listening to him (and/or Fox and Friends) he sounds pretty strong. That’s not the reality, but if he says it enough and youre not paying attention to what’s actually happening or not happening, he’s getting it done and draining the swamp and democrats are obstructing everything. |
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Post by athn64 on May 24, 2018 6:49:29 GMT -6
I think a general ambivalence from those in a privileged position is definitely an issue. I've heard it time again. Why bother voting, it's not like it matters.
I do not agree with this but know it's out there.
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Post by stringy on May 24, 2018 9:42:14 GMT -6
I think a general ambivalence from those in a privileged position is definitely an issue. I've heard it time again. Why bother voting, it's not like it matters. I do not agree with this but know it's out there. I hear this from people around me all the time. |
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Post by starbuck on May 29, 2018 13:05:00 GMT -6
So I can’t access the article because I’ve already reached my free limit, but the comments I’m seeing here are making me reflect on my mental self-identification as a centrist-type person. I identify as a moderate and reading the article didn't make me question anything about myself and my views. I tend to favor bipartisanship and think generally we are stronger when both parties/anyone remotely reasonable are at the table.
I disagreed with every one of the survey points discussed in the article. Contrary to the results of the survey, I am v pro democracy, I support free and fair elections, I support equality and civil rights, and I really loathe authoritarianism & I don't want strong-man type as President. I mean, I don't want someone who is going to get steamrolled by the world, but I don't want some dick-swinging maniac, either.
I think a lot of people like to believe they are centrists. It's a nice, neutral place to live if you can't stand partisan politics, or if you're too lazy to develop an opinion. But IME, talking to others, a lot of centrists and libertarians have a strong leaning. As the election of DJT showed, I think many favor the right. The self-proclaimed, vocal libertarians I know tend to talk a lot about social equality, but I think the fiscal issues (and self-interest) wins and guides their voting.
There's problems on all sides and in the middle, IMO.
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