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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 10:42:43 GMT -6
STILL WITH THE DEFENDING OF THIS BITCH? Have a couple seats. No. But people have asked where the apology was. That is what I read / what I’m referring to when I say I saw her trying to apologize. But that’s not a real apology. It’s a “I’m sorry if I offended you” apology, where she makes it all about her yet again. And no one wants it or cares.
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Post by lizblue on May 24, 2018 10:44:48 GMT -6
Now I'm getting annoyed.
@ctg30 - TB deactivated before we could even run her out of here, so she was in no way shape or form "flamed to the point of deactivation." She doubled down on her "three black friends" backing up her supremely problematic, hurtful and yes, racist, way of thinking about "acting white," cloaking it as an apology. And then she peaced out - without engaging with anyone. She was 100% wrong and if she had one fucking iota of sense or good intention, she would have shut the fuck up and listened to all of the POC who told her exactly why she was wrong, multiple times, two weeks ago.
Secondly, I don't know that you see why what TB said and cited in the "I'm Here" thread was wrong. You should investigate that. If you don't think her "apology" was hurtful and yes, still racist, then maybe there is some digging you have to do. Or maybe you won't ever get it.
Lastly, you don't get to appreciate only the person who said all of this to you in the nicest way.
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Post by miawallace on May 24, 2018 10:49:05 GMT -6
white tears yo
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 10:51:06 GMT -6
@ctg30 maybe less typing and more reading for a bit, eh?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 10:52:43 GMT -6
And I’m not here for the “poor persecuted thisbitch” narrative - she was wrong, she knew she was wrong, and that’s why she posted her little AW thread and peaced out after 3 of us said ANYTHING.
So much for “I’m here”.
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Post by mack on May 24, 2018 10:52:49 GMT -6
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Post by SayitaintSnow on May 24, 2018 10:55:29 GMT -6
Now I'm getting annoyed. @ctg30 - TB deactivated before we could even run her out of here, so she was in no way shape or form "flamed to the point of deactivation." She doubled down on her "three black friends" backing up her supremely problematic, hurtful and yes, racist, way of thinking about "acting white," cloaking it as an apology. And then she peaced out - without engaging with anyone. She was 100% wrong and if she had one fucking iota of sense or good intention, she would have shut the fuck up and listened to all of the POC who told her exactly why she was wrong, multiple times, two weeks ago. Secondly, I don't know that you see why what TB said and cited in the "I'm Here" thread was wrong. You should investigate that. If you don't think her "apology" was hurtful and yes, still racist, then maybe there is some digging you have to do. Or maybe you won't ever get it. Lastly, you don't get to appreciate only the person who said all of this to you in the nicest way. No one owes us kindness when we say and do racist things. No one owes us understanding or forgiveness. It is a courtesy for anyone to even bother pointing it out to us instead of choosing to write us off for it. Racism isn't gentle to the people who experience it, and it doesn't deserve a gentle response.
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Post by piratecat on May 24, 2018 10:56:06 GMT -6
I think you are giving too much credit to lack of malicious intent. I don't think that you or thibitch are bad, malicious people. But I think your jumping to defensive mode is clouding your ability to see that you can have racial biases or not understand why certain things are problematic (I mean I think applies to A LOT of us) or even be racist without malicious intent. Racism is so ingrained in all of us. The "but I'm not racist, I'm not a bad person" narrative is preventing you from being open to seeing that and working on fixing it. So you will go on and live your non-racist life for the most part, but will slip up every now and then and continue to hurt people and nothing will change. The fact that no one really hashed it out with you prior to this was a big part of the conversation that happened here. That many of us are willing to let things slide, because it's hard to have these conversations with people we like. Thank you for addressing this in the manner it should have initially been addressed in. I hear you. This kind of dialogue is much more conducive to constructive discussion and reflection. But I'm afraid you are not being very convincing of hearing me or anyone else. We can't always have these tough conversations with gentle words and you are dismissing a lot of valuable thoughts if you can't hear them over your defensiveness.
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Post by McBenny on May 24, 2018 10:58:31 GMT -6
WWWB is my acronym for woke white women brigade
Noted
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Post by piratecat on May 24, 2018 10:59:06 GMT -6
And I’m not here for the “poor persecuted thisbitch” narrative - she was wrong, she knew she was wrong, and that’s why she posted her little AW thread and peaced out after 3 of us said ANYTHING. So much for “I’m here”. Wasn't the intention of her post to announce that she was leaving? I agree the title poorly reflected that.
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Post by SayitaintSnow on May 24, 2018 11:04:09 GMT -6
WWWB is my acronym for woke white women brigade Noted Put this this on a bracelet and we can make bank at the farmers markets and craft fairs. Pb is fucking with my post . There should be a in there.
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Post by SayitaintSnow on May 24, 2018 11:06:12 GMT -6
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Post by SayitaintSnow on May 24, 2018 11:06:52 GMT -6
Proboards is fucked
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Post by SayitaintSnow on May 24, 2018 11:09:04 GMT -6
W.W.W.W.B.D.?
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Post by shan-ah-doo on May 24, 2018 11:42:28 GMT -6
Now I'm getting annoyed. @ctg30 - TB deactivated before we could even run her out of here, so she was in no way shape or form "flamed to the point of deactivation." She doubled down on her "three black friends" backing up her supremely problematic, hurtful and yes, racist, way of thinking about "acting white," cloaking it as an apology. And then she peaced out - without engaging with anyone. She was 100% wrong and if she had one fucking iota of sense or good intention, she would have shut the fuck up and listened to all of the POC who told her exactly why she was wrong, multiple times, two weeks ago. Secondly, I don't know that you see why what TB said and cited in the "I'm Here" thread was wrong. You should investigate that. If you don't think her "apology" was hurtful and yes, still racist, then maybe there is some digging you have to do. Or maybe you won't ever get it. Lastly, you don't get to appreciate only the person who said all of this to you in the nicest way. No one owes us kindness when we say and do racist things. No one owes us understanding or forgiveness. It is a courtesy for anyone to even bother pointing it out to us instead of choosing to write us off for it. Racism isn't gentle to the people who experience it, and it doesn't deserve a gentle response. This is what I meant. But I’m dumb and can’t form words.
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Post by lizblue on May 24, 2018 12:08:38 GMT -6
shan-ah-doo, you're not dumb. You said it first - succinctly!
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Post by piratecat on May 24, 2018 12:17:33 GMT -6
No one owes us kindness when we say and do racist things. No one owes us understanding or forgiveness. It is a courtesy for anyone to even bother pointing it out to us instead of choosing to write us off for it. Racism isn't gentle to the people who experience it, and it doesn't deserve a gentle response. This is what I meant. But I’m dumb and can’t form words. I thought your words were just fine.
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Post by shan-ah-doo on May 24, 2018 12:23:18 GMT -6
shan-ah-doo, you're not dumb. You said it first - succinctly! You guys are too damn well spoken. But thanks.
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Post by RajahMD on May 24, 2018 12:25:14 GMT -6
Poster 1 makes problematic statement Poster 2; “why would you say that?” Poster 3: she’s not mean, not here, but blah blah Poster 3 effectively shuts conversation down Poster 5: oh so since we have these new woke rules we will apply evenly yes?!! Poster 1: let’s not examine the double standards of past infractions. Ohhhhh k. But there’s a disconnect somewhere What happened to Poster 4? Should we be concerned about their whereabouts?
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Post by Risscaboobs on May 24, 2018 12:29:00 GMT -6
Poster 1 makes problematic statement Poster 2; “why would you say that?” Poster 3: she’s not mean, not here, but blah blah Poster 3 effectively shuts conversation down Poster 5: oh so since we have these new woke rules we will apply evenly yes?!! Poster 1: let’s not examine the double standards of past infractions. Ohhhhh k. But there’s a disconnect somewhere What happened to Poster 4? Should we be concerned about their whereabouts? They brought nothing to the conversation, likely just popping in with something random without reading the room (or thread) at.all.
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Post by sheilathetank on May 24, 2018 12:36:41 GMT -6
What happened to Poster 4? Should we be concerned about their whereabouts? We will never see poster 4 in race related thread. That bitch lives her best life away from the drama. She's the one "listening and learning"
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Post by mack on May 24, 2018 12:36:44 GMT -6
What happened to Poster 4? Should we be concerned about their whereabouts? We will never see poster 4 in race related thread. That bitch lives her best life away from the drama. Oh, I thought she was quietly rolling her eyes at the other ones.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 13:38:07 GMT -6
I’ve been trying to catch up on his thread, since I’m on vacation and realized Ctg has had all of her posts deleted?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 13:39:15 GMT -6
I’ve been trying to catch up on his thread, since I’m on vacation and realized Ctg has had all of her posts deleted? Well that’s how you show you’ve learned and grown, right? .....no?
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Post by cribs on May 24, 2018 13:40:26 GMT -6
Huh
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Post by angelashly on May 24, 2018 13:41:30 GMT -6
I am eating a snack right now
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Post by sheilathetank on May 24, 2018 13:41:58 GMT -6
The fragility is strong.
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Post by cribs on May 24, 2018 13:42:19 GMT -6
I am eating a snack right now lol
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Post by ladybrienne on May 24, 2018 13:45:25 GMT -6
I am eating a snack right now Toto what thread am I in
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Post by miawallace on May 24, 2018 13:46:05 GMT -6
Maybe gbcn and our apologizers will get together and start their own forum called "we're here and we're sorry"
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