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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 18:37:04 GMT -6
Not directly but loosely drawing parallels. I feel there was some extra behavior on both sides but I'm still reading threads and Pms. I agree. By no means am I here to WK ripper but there is some uncouth behavior going on, on both sides. Come for her under your own SN, etc. I guess I just kind of feel like...so what? Yes. The AEs are annoying and cowardly, but I feel like what are we getting at? I guess ripper is free to post however she wants and there will be people who interact with her as normal...then is everyone else still going to be a petty asshole for ignoring or expressing displeasure? I know this will be read as eye roll since it’s known I don’t like her. I just have yet to see a single black woman at GBCN speak up on rippers behalf or say she’s been misread or misconstrued. The ones who have spoken (there, under their SNs) have all said the same thing. what would they have to gain from lying? Some grand conspiracy against her for what reason?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 18:38:46 GMT -6
Like this legit is what they said on gbcn that is rippers MO. Gaslight and garner sympathy. It’s what seems like is happening here.
Maybe I can’t or won’t be able to see it any other way.
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Post by mack on May 22, 2018 18:42:36 GMT -6
I agree. By no means am I here to WK ripper but there is some uncouth behavior going on, on both sides. Come for her under your own SN, etc. I guess I just kind of feel like...so what? Yes. The AEs are annoying and cowardly, but I feel like what are we getting at? I guess ripper is free to post however she wants and there will be people who interact with her as normal...then is everyone else still going to be a petty asshole for ignoring or expressing displeasure? I know this will be read as eye roll since it’s known I don’t like her. I just have yet to see a single black woman at GBCN speak up on rippers behalf or say she’s been misread or misconstrued. The ones who have spoken (there, under their SNs) have all said the same thing. what would they have to gain from lying? Some grand conspiracy against her for what reason? I don’t think there is some grand conspiracy. And the use of AEs doesn’t garner doubt. I’ve seen lots of assholes certifiably get outed by AEs. But I just find this annoying. Like just come here under your real SN and tell us your truth.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 18:43:45 GMT -6
awhile back I asked a question about... something I don’t remember. Anyway, someone pointed me to a couple of social Media accounts to follow. I can’t remember them all now but I started following my local SURJ FB page and that’s been really informative. In case anyone is looking for that kind of thing.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 18:43:52 GMT -6
ripper When I (more recently) find myself in a disagreement with someone and they are claiming one thing and I am claiming another, I try to put myself in their position and evaluate what I may have done or said to make the opposing party feel the way they are feeling. With that being said, Kirkyetti and gang feel strongly that you are a racist. A couple steps down from that, they feel that you don’t believe black people can truly have money. You are saying these things aren’t true; therefore, there is a disconnect. So my question to you is, if you look through Kirkette’s POV, is there anything you could have done or said that would have made them feel this way.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 18:44:38 GMT -6
I guess I just kind of feel like...so what? Yes. The AEs are annoying and cowardly, but I feel like what are we getting at? I guess ripper is free to post however she wants and there will be people who interact with her as normal...then is everyone else still going to be a petty asshole for ignoring or expressing displeasure? I know this will be read as eye roll since it’s known I don’t like her. I just have yet to see a single black woman at GBCN speak up on rippers behalf or say she’s been misread or misconstrued. The ones who have spoken (there, under their SNs) have all said the same thing. what would they have to gain from lying? Some grand conspiracy against her for what reason? I don’t think there is some grand conspiracy. And the use of AEs doesn’t garner doubt. I’ve seen lots of assholes certifiably get outed by AEs. But I just find this annoying. Like just come here under your real SN and tell us your truth. I agree with you.
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Post by footloose on May 22, 2018 18:45:02 GMT -6
I mean I think if you step back no matter your race and think about this topic of race. It's the same people talking. We have people who will never comment or participate. There could be a multitude of reasons but to me, that says something too. McBenny You are right, I am one of those people who reads but doesn't participate. I will be totally honest in that these conversations make me uncomfortable. I don't feel articulate enough through text, I don't feel I know enough on the subject, and I am a white person. I also don't always see the micro aggressions that will be spoken about and not sure how to change that. When I read people say that most of us or 8/10 here have racist tendencies, then right or wrong it can end up putting me on the defensive and I don't like that feeling. I don't have an issue with POC here or IRL, and I don't feel I have said offensive things or that would have been pointed out at some point. It doesn't make me feel good to know that I step back and that my being a white person allows me to do so. I am not always the most vocal here, but I do read and reflect- even personally. I am human and flawed and see that saying nothing is equating to something negative to others and that was never the intent. Not idea if I have made any sense, but I can try to participate in future. This is a post and run as I am at work and don't have access to my phone after my break.
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Post by mack on May 22, 2018 18:46:18 GMT -6
ripper When I (more recently) find myself in a disagreement with someone and they are claiming one thing and I am claiming another, I try to put myself in their position and evaluate what I may have done or said to make the opposing party feel the way they are feeling. With that being said, Kirkyetti and gang feel strongly that you are a racist. A couple steps down from that, they feel that you don’t believe black people can truly have money. You are saying these things aren’t true; therefore, there is a disconnect. So my question to you is, if you look through Kirkette’s POV, is there anything you could have done or said that would have made them feel this way. Lol at “kirkyetti” Also I know we have talked about how much you have matured and grown since you’ve come back. But like damn.
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Post by wasabi on May 22, 2018 18:47:51 GMT -6
I thought @gentleapricot was plenty mature before leaving and ever since I “met” her, but that’s coming from me, soooooo
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Post by wasabi on May 22, 2018 18:48:24 GMT -6
Note to self: enough with the quotes
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Post by mack on May 22, 2018 18:51:44 GMT -6
What people are saying here is I don’t like the behavior of the people who were upset by ripper so now ripper gets sympathy from me. It’s twisted. That’s not what I am saying. I am saying these people that are coming back with their AEs are annoying. My feelings on the entire situation are the same.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 18:52:04 GMT -6
ripper When I (more recently) find myself in a disagreement with someone and they are claiming one thing and I am claiming another, I try to put myself in their position and evaluate what I may have done or said to make the opposing party feel the way they are feeling. With that being said, Kirkyetti and gang feel strongly that you are a racist. A couple steps down from that, they feel that you don’t believe black people can truly have money. You are saying these things aren’t true; therefore, there is a disconnect. So my question to you is, if you look through Kirkette’s POV, is there anything you could have done or said that would have made them feel this way. Lol at “kirkyetti” Also I know we have talked about how much you have matured and grown since you’ve come back. But like damn. If she doesn’t respond I swear GP is coming back. Lol.
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Post by Nonniedee on May 22, 2018 18:52:46 GMT -6
What people are saying here is I don’t like the behavior of the people who were upset by ripper so now ripper gets sympathy from me. It’s twisted. Who said that? What sympathy?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 18:52:48 GMT -6
Also, please spare me the links to threads. I’m not reading that shit.
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Post by wasabi on May 22, 2018 18:53:20 GMT -6
I really have been doubting that the AES give a fuck about their identity they just even more so don’t give a fuck about making their screen name the same or whatever. Like, most of us don’t know them or anyone on gbcn anyway?
I nocurr about AEs in this instance.
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Post by brux on May 22, 2018 18:54:41 GMT -6
The only sympathy I have for Ripper now is that her SM was posted without her permission.
Everything else, she was an active participant in the fuckery. Maybe she was misread. Maybe she was misinterpreted. Maybe it all started as jealousy and/or cracker eating.
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Post by leatherpants on May 22, 2018 18:57:43 GMT -6
And while I’m spitballing reflections, I can assure you I have never had or had to think about my whiteness as much as I have and have to here.
And while I know a lot about of people of a lot of different races through work and social stuff, my inner circle is very white. Hearing the black women and women of colour on this board who I spend this much time with speak about these issues and how they hear them and how they live with them, it’s very new to me. I have been extremely blind for a lot of my life.
And FTR that is not said as an excuse or rationalization or anything besides stating facts. I try in my own head, to not underestimate the importance and implication of those facts but I know I do.
Anyways, I guess I am saying I appreciate it even if I never expected this when I signed up for this community.
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Post by sharkattack85 on May 22, 2018 18:57:51 GMT -6
Regarding AEs: the vast majority of people on gbcn think booby sent the bag of dicks or at least had something to do with it. Do you think people are jumping up to come at her with their “real sn”?
Believe what you want about her but as someone posted she lied about who she was, scrubbed most of the evidence and now is asking you to take her at her word. Ok, have fun with that.
And to whoever is still looking for the smoking gun, you won’t find it. Most of boobys comments were super slick and on there face, not worth quoting. You had to read them and read the rest of the thread to put it all together. Too bad most of her comments are gone.
She clearly still has people who don’t mind her here. That’s fine. Rock on.
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Post by Nonniedee on May 22, 2018 18:58:39 GMT -6
Who said that? What sympathy? sympathy is not a word that was explicitly said but a fixation on the awfulness of the messenger and a desire to not hear from the messengers helps to obfuscate the original issue. It’s kind of Trumpian. Boogie. I can't with that. That's bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 18:58:48 GMT -6
Tbh I think ripper enjoys all of this. She has shown herself here to be the type of person to say hurtful things and then do the “who me?” act. I think she is smarter than all of the “not knowing” about the racist avatar and ableist language and all of the rest of the nonsense she’s done. I think she has been/was given a lot of grace here (please do not read this as me saying nanny nanny boo boo should have known, it is an observation that includes myself as well) and that she actually takes pleasure in making people feel bad, making people in-fight. I think she did all of this on gbcn, too, but like she said grace wasn’t given there so she came here to try it out on us.
I don’t think she ever needed to be defended by me or anyone else, even on the principle stuff, because she is not the type to just be run off. She loves all of this.
*My opinion. I do not claim express the views of the board as a whole.*
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Post by sterling on May 22, 2018 18:59:52 GMT -6
ripper When I (more recently) find myself in a disagreement with someone and they are claiming one thing and I am claiming another, I try to put myself in their position and evaluate what I may have done or said to make the opposing party feel the way they are feeling. With that being said, Kirkyetti and gang feel strongly that you are a racist. A couple steps down from that, they feel that you don’t believe black people can truly have money. You are saying these things aren’t true; therefore, there is a disconnect. So my question to you is, if you look through Kirkette’s POV, is there anything you could have done or said that would have made them feel this way. #matureassfruit
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Post by brux on May 22, 2018 19:00:08 GMT -6
The only sympathy I have for Ripper now is that her SM was posted without her permission. Everything else, she was an active participant in the fuckery. Maybe she was misread. Maybe she was misinterpreted. Maybe it all started as jealousy and/or cracker eating. That was awful in our world but it’s not a gross offense in their world (I think that was said earlier) so I’m not sure if it was meant to inflict the damage it did. kind of par for the course in this game of misinterpretations swirling around Ripper. 😂
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 19:00:51 GMT -6
@gentleapricot is the most mature hooker up in this place. I don't know act around you GA. I feel like I need to maintain some serious decorum to keep the maturity level up around here. /high bar. I really just need peace to be restored so I can get back to talking about my Macros.
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Post by mack on May 22, 2018 19:02:15 GMT -6
Who said that? What sympathy? sympathy is not a word that was explicitly said but a fixation on the awfulness of the messenger and a desire to not hear from the messengers helps to obfuscate the original issue. It’s kind of Trumpian. In my mind they are not mutually exclusive. My annoyance with how these AEs came here does not obscure how I feel about what Ripper did. I don’t like either. Ripper did what Dipper did AND I also see that these people from GBCN didn’t come here because of altruistic intentions. They waited almost year and then came under AEs at a ripe time to start drama. They are also here to hurt us.
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Post by ripper on May 22, 2018 19:02:36 GMT -6
Tbh I think ripper enjoys all of this. She has shown herself here to be the type of person to say hurtful things and then do the “who me?” act. I think she is smarter than all of the “not knowing” about the racist avatar and ableist language and all of the rest of the nonsense she’s done. I think she has been/was given a lot of grace here (please do not read this as me saying nanny nanny boo boo should have known, it is an observation that includes myself as well) and that she actually takes pleasure in making people feel bad, making people in-fight. I think she did all of this on gbcn, too, but like she said grace wasn’t given there so she came here to try it out on us. I don’t think she ever needed to be defended by me or anyone else, even on the principle stuff, because she is not the type to just be run off. She loves all of this. *My opinion. I do not claim express the views of the board as a whole.* I didn’t read past your first sentence. In no way do I enjoy this. That is fucked up.
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Post by wasabi on May 22, 2018 19:04:01 GMT -6
sympathy is not a word that was explicitly said but a fixation on the awfulness of the messenger and a desire to not hear from the messengers helps to obfuscate the original issue. It’s kind of Trumpian. In my mind they are not mutually exclusive. My annoyance with how these AEs came here does not obscure how I feel about what Ripper did. I don’t like either. Ripper did what Dipper did AND I also see that these people from GBCN didn’t come here because of altruistic intentions. They waited almost year and then came under AEs at a ripe time to start drama. They are also here to hurt us. They might have just been waiting to see a thread titled “let’s discuss suspected trolls”
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Post by ripper on May 22, 2018 19:04:24 GMT -6
Regarding AEs: the vast majority of people on gbcn think booby sent the bag of dicks or at least had something to do with it. Do you think people are jumping up to come at her with their “real sn”? Believe what you want about her but as someone posted she lied about who she was, scrubbed most of the evidence and now is asking you to take her at her word. Ok, have fun with that. And to whoever is still looking for the smoking gun, you won’t find it. Most of boobys comments were super slick and on there face, not worth quoting. You had to read them and read the rest of the thread to put it all together. Too bad most of her comments are gone. She clearly still has people who don’t mind her here. That’s fine. Rock on. Another AE? Fine I scrubbed my account two years ago. That is one hell of a long game.
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Post by mack on May 22, 2018 19:06:49 GMT -6
Tbh I think ripper enjoys all of this. She has shown herself here to be the type of person to say hurtful things and then do the “who me?” act. I think she is smarter than all of the “not knowing” about the racist avatar and ableist language and all of the rest of the nonsense she’s done. I think she has been/was given a lot of grace here (please do not read this as me saying nanny nanny boo boo should have known, it is an observation that includes myself as well) and that she actually takes pleasure in making people feel bad, making people in-fight. I think she did all of this on gbcn, too, but like she said grace wasn’t given there so she came here to try it out on us. I don’t think she ever needed to be defended by me or anyone else, even on the principle stuff, because she is not the type to just be run off. She loves all of this. *My opinion. I do not claim express the views of the board as a whole.* I didn’t read past your first sentence. In no way do I enjoy this. That is fucked up. I am going to be straight with you. This is hard to buy given that you have spent the last year unapologetically trying to facilitate drama.
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Post by Nonniedee on May 22, 2018 19:06:54 GMT -6
@jboogie
Not for nothing, I caught the shade of your other comment.
And l o fucking l to that sympathy shit. Miss me all the way with that shit. I have actual fucking skin in this, same as you.
What I won't fucking do is pretend that threw ousting of an already hated poster is the turning of a new leaf.
Show and prove, fuck all that other shit.
That we listen to black women shit That listening and learning shit That how can I do better shit.
The same black women from gbcn said they don't ban racists. So at this point what?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 19:07:09 GMT -6
sharkattack85 I definitely got the sense that people there are convinced she sent the bag of dicks. And I get why but I’m in no position to accuse her of that, I was not there at the time. But I understand where you’re coming from. When one of the posters from there created an AE and posted her IG account, that shit had me scared. Like I knew it was ugly, but we don’t play like that around here at all. Plus with the comments she has made in the past concerning privacy issues. I get it. This whole situation is testing my limits as far as how much I want to even post moving forward. Anyway I get what you’re saying about the AE shit.
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