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Post by coconutbacon on Jan 18, 2018 16:33:28 GMT -6
"Happening right now*: HHS in press conference comparing victims of the Holocaust and journey of Dr. King to the "oppression" of healthcare workers who are forced to treat transgender patients, against their religious freedom. No, really." * Right now was this morning Wow. That is way beyond tone deaf.
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Post by coconutbacon on Jan 18, 2018 16:37:02 GMT -6
shadesofgold, I’m so sorry. That is heartbreaking and must be so scary for your daycare provider. I don’t know what I would do. I hope she and her children are able to find a way to remain here safely.
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Post by athn64 on Jan 18, 2018 17:06:15 GMT -6
I’m thrilled with the progress that President Trump has made in defeating ISIS, cutting taxes for middle-class families and making court appointments.
At what point did we defeat ISIS? Did I miss the memo? There was no MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner to my recollection He's tweeted about it a couple of times, so it must be so.
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Post by bugglesbee on Jan 18, 2018 17:15:51 GMT -6
I am at a loss to understand what is happening to our country. Can people really be so short sighted as to not see how allowing doctors to pick and choose who deserves care is a slippery slope?? Is it so hard for people to not see how tearing apart families does nothing but breed more hate, more future violent angry people?? People just never learn and it’s so damn frustrating. Preaching to the choir, I know.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 17:17:35 GMT -6
Sorry I haven't read. Have you guys talked about Mother Jones reporting that Trump had Stormy Daniels spank him with a Forbes magazine that had him on the cover. I think there's a pee tape now. The first tweet I just saw when I logged on was “Forbes is trending. Don’t ask why.”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 17:23:26 GMT -6
I’m sorry but there have been legitimate wins over ISIS in terms of territory. There just have.
Individual/cells of extremists are definitely still out there, and what is next for Syria still looms. And it was largely a continuation of strategy from during Obama’s term.
But I think the three things listed are the things of import that they’ve actually done. Granted, Trump had almost nothing to do with any of it getting done except signing his name to things.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 17:24:52 GMT -6
I am at a loss to understand what is happening to our country. Can people really be so short sighted as to not see how allowing doctors to pick and choose who deserves care is a slippery slope?? Is it so hard for people to not see how tearing apart families does nothing but breed more hate, more future violent angry people?? People just never learn and it’s so damn frustrating. Preaching to the choir, I know. This must be illegal in some way...I hope. Ugh. We’ll see with the baker Supreme Court case I guess.
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Post by shadesofgold on Jan 18, 2018 17:28:38 GMT -6
Part of me feels like I'm being dramatic or overreacting because that part of me cannot believe this is America today. You aren't being dramatic. ICE is taking into custody easy targets. I would absolutely tell the women yourself, in person, maybe give them a card with your phone number & address. Also know your rights and share this info with them to be sure they know their rights. Another thing is find out if you have an immigration bail fund near you. Some legal organizations will have these and work to get undocumented persons out of jail quickly in order to avoid ICE custody. A big thing that happens is someone gets picked up for something minor, as simple as jumping a turn style, and then they aren't able to make bail and ICE pucks them up in the meantime. Or like a friend of mine who had a warrant open for his arrest due to a clerical error. He was very drunk in public and the officer tried to take him home but he lost his keys, so the officer took him to the drunk tank. By morning ICR had picked him up and he was in ICE custody for 7 months. Thanks for the info and action steps!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 17:29:10 GMT -6
CR vote update:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 17:30:59 GMT -6
I’m sorry shadesofgold. A few years ago, ICE did a sweep on a daycare here and a lot of DCPs were caught up in it. It was heartbreaking and awful for everyone involved.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 17:45:12 GMT -6
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Post by charlotte on Jan 18, 2018 18:31:35 GMT -6
@jboogie I am still deciding whether or not I’ll forgive you for giving me that mental image.
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Post by mb3 on Jan 18, 2018 18:34:04 GMT -6
Sorry I haven't read. Have you guys talked about Mother Jones reporting that Trump had Stormy Daniels spank him with a Forbes magazine that had him on the cover. I think there's a pee tape now. I take it you didn’t join the pledges few page back that we wouldn’t discuss what she said about him? I would have been very happy to never have known this. But...I also agree with you about the pee tape.
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Post by crunch on Jan 18, 2018 18:40:53 GMT -6
Sorry I haven't read. Have you guys talked about Mother Jones reporting that Trump had Stormy Daniels spank him with a Forbes magazine that had him on the cover. I think there's a pee tape now. I love that a lot of things in trumps life reads like the onion but they are true!
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Post by miawallace on Jan 18, 2018 18:44:24 GMT -6
So, I just found out that the lead infant teacher at our daycare center is in the U.S. under temporary protective status. She's afraid to come to work now because of the raids. I wondered about this because I knew she was from El Salvador and had been in the U.S. for about 15 years. I would put a lot on the line for this woman for the beautiful care she provided to my son. I wish I knew what to do. I wouldnt ask her anything directly. It really is a humiliating conversation to have with folks. Especially because they haven't told you directly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 19:12:24 GMT -6
The Senate is going to vote on the motion to proceed for the CR soon and then they're probably going to do the cloture (end of debate) vote tonight.
Hold on to your butts.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 18, 2018 19:20:25 GMT -6
"Happening right now*: HHS in press conference comparing victims of the Holocaust and journey of Dr. King to the "oppression" of healthcare workers who are forced to treat transgender patients, against their religious freedom. No, really." * Right now was this morning things like this is making is really hard to be positive this month. Also it makes me want to fly to DC and smash heads together.... It's flooded right now but as soon as it's repaired my guest room is open
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Post by shadesofgold on Jan 18, 2018 19:20:26 GMT -6
So, I just found out that the lead infant teacher at our daycare center is in the U.S. under temporary protective status. She's afraid to come to work now because of the raids. I wondered about this because I knew she was from El Salvador and had been in the U.S. for about 15 years. I would put a lot on the line for this woman for the beautiful care she provided to my son. I wish I knew what to do. I wouldnt ask her anything directly. It really is a humiliating conversation to have with folks. Especially because they haven't told you directly. Thanks for this. I was going to say something to one of the other teachers tomorrow (who i usually interact with in the morning) and keep my comments really general, basically "I just want everyone to know that we want to help in any way possible if something came up. Can you pass that along?" Do you think that is sensitive enough but still helpful? I'm guessing their boss wouldn't necessarily be the first person they'd go to and she's who I've told this to before.
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Post by cnf on Jan 18, 2018 19:25:20 GMT -6
So glad it's ok to have an "unrelenting bully" as our leader and figure head. I can't finish that article. My head will explode.
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Post by miawallace on Jan 18, 2018 19:26:22 GMT -6
I wouldnt ask her anything directly. It really is a humiliating conversation to have with folks. Especially because they haven't told you directly. Thanks for this. I was going to say something to one of the other teachers tomorrow (who i usually interact with in the morning) and keep my comments really general, basically "I just want everyone to know that we want to help in any way possible if something came up. Can you pass that along?" Do you think that is sensitive enough but still helpful? I'm guessing their boss wouldn't necessarily be the first person they'd go to and she's who I've told this to before. I'd casually mention you're available for help/resources to the person who told you. I'm pretty sure that person would relay the info should there be any need in the future. I try to walk carefully just so that folks don't feel embarrassed or even pressured to accept help or not. Or whatever. I'm just thinking about my family and I know how discreet they are with this sort of stuff. It can be an embarrassing situation. It's an awful situation for sure. The waiting for something to happen or not happen and not knowing how to help.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 18, 2018 19:27:16 GMT -6
I’m sorry but there have been legitimate wins over ISIS in terms of territory. There just have. Individual/cells of extremists are definitely still out there, and what is next for Syria still looms. And it was largely a continuation of strategy from during Obama’s term. But I think the three things listed are the things of import that they’ve actually done. Granted, Trump had almost nothing to do with any of it getting done except signing his name to things. Yes. This. There are career military and civil servants who have worked endlessly to strategically undermine ISIS and they are making progress. These men and women are brilliant NatSec and IC servants. I refuse to let my disdain for Trump the man cloud my appreciation for the hard and brilliant work they do every day.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 20:05:04 GMT -6
Senate Dems are voting for MTP (which only needs 50 votes anyway.)
Probably will get to the other vote tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 20:18:46 GMT -6
Senate Dems are voting for MTP (which only needs 50 votes anyway.) Probably will get to the other vote tonight. Nvmd. Sounds like they’re going home.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Jan 18, 2018 21:05:44 GMT -6
I am just really extra disappointed by our country today. Like more than normal.
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Post by enchanted on Jan 18, 2018 21:15:47 GMT -6
The hold list for Fire and Fury at my library is so long. I don't want to buy it, but I may have to.
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Post by justkeepmoving on Jan 18, 2018 21:48:47 GMT -6
Senate Dems are voting for MTP (which only needs 50 votes anyway.) Probably will get to the other vote tonight. What’s MTP?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 21:50:16 GMT -6
McConnell doesn’t even have 50 votes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 21:50:52 GMT -6
Senate Dems are voting for MTP (which only needs 50 votes anyway.) Probably will get to the other vote tonight. What’s MTP? A motion to proceed or to open debate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 21:53:48 GMT -6
Paul, Graham, McCain and Flake are no’s.
Meanwhile Trump is throwing a $100,000 a head party at Mar a Lago on Saturday to celebrate the anniversary of his inauguration.
And you know he won’t cancel that even if there is a shit down. That would be a good look.
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Post by roseinbloom on Jan 18, 2018 21:59:48 GMT -6
I knew someone was going to get this one! I was just about to start a thread. So awesome!
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