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Post by Minerva on Jan 25, 2023 10:40:23 GMT -6
It’s so sad and awful all around. Agreed. I've been reading about the SI being outed and basically their return to school plan is metal detectors and clear backpacks, which is woefully inadequate and really misses the point. I've been thinking a lot about the what ifs- what would we do if our school of 900 ES kids decided to do metal detectors? I'm also having a lot of angst about MS and HS, now that MS is in sight. Our city is definitely grappling with the way forward right now. I don't know how DD1 is going to cope with daily fights, and should we ask her to? Am I doing enough as a parent to protect her if I send her to the environment? And at the same time, other parents I know and respect do, and what makes us different? Anyway, lots on my mind these days./ramble Hugs, lady. I totally understand why you worry. Every kid is different and some struggle while others thrive in large urban schools. There are soooooo many opportunities to join clubs and take advanced classes and just generally mature into young adults with a more nuanced understanding of real life, but it is also easy for kids to feel overwhelmed or get lost in the chaos.
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Post by athn64 on Jan 25, 2023 10:40:51 GMT -6
This thread is a summary of the press conference. Even if only a fraction of this is true, that lawsuit sounds more than justified. WTAF to that administration. That poor teacher.
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Post by Minerva on Jan 25, 2023 10:51:52 GMT -6
This thread is a summary of the press conference. Even if only a fraction of this is true, that lawsuit sounds more than justified. Holy shit. 😭 Everyone lost here. The teacher, the school community, the six year old who pulled the trigger.
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Post by byjove on Jan 25, 2023 10:54:23 GMT -6
This thread is a summary of the press conference. Even if only a fraction of this is true, that lawsuit sounds more than justified. Holy shit. 😭 Everyone lost here. The teacher, the school community, the six year old who pulled the trigger. Truly.
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Post by elle on Jan 25, 2023 11:13:37 GMT -6
We're sending 30 Abrams tanks to Ukraine - Biden is currently speaking now.
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Post by elle on Jan 25, 2023 11:17:29 GMT -6
This is a terrible pun but it made me laugh.
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Post by kbw on Jan 25, 2023 11:32:39 GMT -6
So why do we teach our kids if you see or hear something say something if the freaking administration or adults in charge would just ignore them? That school district failed miserably.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 25, 2023 11:44:10 GMT -6
I am a firm believer in Least Restrictive Educational Environment but I don't think the Gen Ed classroom was the appropriate place for that child. You have to consider the other children in the class. They deserve a healthy Educational environment too.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 25, 2023 11:48:16 GMT -6
Is she becoming a communist?
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Post by goldenbird on Jan 25, 2023 11:48:44 GMT -6
I am a firm believer in Least Restrictive Educational Environment but I don't think the Gen Ed classroom was the appropriate place for that child. You have to consider the other children in the class. They deserve a healthy Educational environment too. Yeah...I think that child needs more help than can be given in that specific setting. It's horrible all around.
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Post by enchanted on Jan 25, 2023 12:17:09 GMT -6
This thread is a summary of the press conference. Even if only a fraction of this is true, that lawsuit sounds more than justified. Fuck. That poor teacher and all the other teachers who tried to do something. I feel so badly for all of them and the students who were witnesses. Not going to lie; I feel badly for the shooter, too. He so clearly needs help. He's only six!
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Jan 25, 2023 12:27:29 GMT -6
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Post by nelzie on Jan 25, 2023 12:29:40 GMT -6
So all these GOP assholes who think the solution is arming the teachers, do they think a teacher is going to be able/willing to shoot one of their 6 year old students?
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Post by mathlete on Jan 25, 2023 12:34:40 GMT -6
So why do we teach our kids if you see or hear something say something if the freaking administration or adults in charge would just ignore them? That school district failed miserably. Exactly. I think about all the times we've searched out threats that ended up unfounded. This is a reminder to keep at it, because it only takes one time.
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Post by nelzie on Jan 25, 2023 12:53:58 GMT -6
I'm so upset about this. I hope this is a wake up call to all the people who keep voting straight republican and vote against their own interests and for people who don't give a shit what the people they are representing want. But I doubt it will be. It's pretty ironic that Kim was suing over the student loan forgiveness yet they want taxes to go to private schools. Taxes shouldn't go to pay for college because that was their choice.... but let's have "school choice" so the private schools can get more money. I'm actually shocked and pleasantly surprised that my republican representative was one of the few who voted against it. He usually tows the party line. He did earn a little bit of my respect for that.
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Post by addymac on Jan 25, 2023 13:12:12 GMT -6
byjove , a parent is required to attend school with the child? Woah Yes. That is what has been reported. I don't know if you can read the WaPo link I posted, but the child had threatened to "light her on fire and watch her die" previously and they had been tipped off the boy had a gun that day, but they didn't find it. So many levels of WOAH. The system failed everyone. Holy shit. Eta: should have kept reading. The more articles and info posted the more omfg it becomes.
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Post by sifl on Jan 25, 2023 13:28:06 GMT -6
(I mean, I'm not reading all that but I'm glad it was upheld.) So this does give me pause because I don’t want to live in a surveillance state and I wonder about the parameters of using this data. I’ll have to read the article later when I have time.
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Post by jaygee on Jan 25, 2023 13:57:44 GMT -6
(I mean, I'm not reading all that but I'm glad it was upheld.) So this does give me pause because I don’t want to live in a surveillance state and I wonder about the parameters of using this data. I’ll have to read the article later when I have time. Right. Because 9 times out of 10 this will be used against people in a sketchy way. Like say -let’s use google data to find out who attended a local protest.
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Post by sifl on Jan 25, 2023 14:09:49 GMT -6
So this does give me pause because I don’t want to live in a surveillance state and I wonder about the parameters of using this data. I’ll have to read the article later when I have time. Right. Because 9 times out of 10 this will be used against people in a sketchy way. Like say -let’s use google data to find out who attended a local protest. Yep.
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 25, 2023 14:14:09 GMT -6
Best line of the week uttered If you ordered Lauren bobert off wish
Waves in distress from Idaho where we’re trying to roll back to 1832.
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Post by mrsweasley on Jan 25, 2023 14:22:30 GMT -6
I'm so upset about this. I hope this is a wake up call to all the people who keep voting straight republican and vote against their own interests and for people who don't give a shit what the people they are representing want. But I doubt it will be. It's pretty ironic that Kim was suing over the student loan forgiveness yet they want taxes to go to private schools. Taxes shouldn't go to pay for college because that was their choice.... but let's have "school choice" so the private schools can get more money. I'm actually shocked and pleasantly surprised that my republican representative was one of the few who voted against it. He usually tows the party line. He did earn a little bit of my respect for that. This was supposed to be a thing on OH a couple years ago (our school funding is a MESS) but once they realized their new equation meant MOST kids in the state would qualify they put a temporary stop in it and have done absolutely nothing since. And we have a gerrymandering GOP supermajority 🙃 The people that are for it locally have been screaming they should be able to get those vouchers so they can use their tax money "the way they want"
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Post by nelzie on Jan 25, 2023 15:00:43 GMT -6
I'm so upset about this. I hope this is a wake up call to all the people who keep voting straight republican and vote against their own interests and for people who don't give a shit what the people they are representing want. But I doubt it will be. It's pretty ironic that Kim was suing over the student loan forgiveness yet they want taxes to go to private schools. Taxes shouldn't go to pay for college because that was their choice.... but let's have "school choice" so the private schools can get more money. I'm actually shocked and pleasantly surprised that my republican representative was one of the few who voted against it. He usually tows the party line. He did earn a little bit of my respect for that. This was supposed to be a thing on OH a couple years ago (our school funding is a MESS) but once they realized their new equation meant MOST kids in the state would qualify they put a temporary stop in it and have done absolutely nothing since. And we have a gerrymandering GOP supermajority 🙃 The people that are for it locally have been screaming they should be able to get those vouchers so they can use their tax money "the way they want" Once this is fully rolled out all kids here will qualify. But thankfully the private schools can discriminate on who they will accept so they don't need to take the "undesirables" 🙄 Or they can take them for a month and then kick them out and keep the money. Win-win for the rich! This place is a nightmare.
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Post by cnf on Jan 25, 2023 15:12:24 GMT -6
The newly reported information about the complete failure of that school is so heartbreaking and maddening. Fuck those admins. I hope they all got fired and I hope they all get sued. That poor teacher.
I agree that the child did not belong in gen ed. I believe in inclusive education for all, when appropriate. I've had kids completely trash my room before, upending desk and throwing computers. Even this year I had to remove all my students except one from my classroom during a period when a kid made it unsafe for the other students in the room. That said, finding alternative placements can be difficult and often comes at the financial cost of the district, so sometimes blind eyes are turned. It's bullshit and comes at the expense of the teachers and other students.
I had two separate kids threaten me today. I got called a bitch so many times today, told they hope I die, and that they're going to beat my ass. I just got a text from my principal minutes ago letting me know that both kids have been dealt with and thanking me for working through the problems with grace and for the good of the other students. I thank my lucky stars everyday that my building admin are amazing.
I had a day. I have big feelings. I'm rambling. Feel free to ignore me.
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Post by addymac on Jan 25, 2023 15:25:31 GMT -6
JFC, cnf. Thank you for what you do for those kids. What a day. I hope you can find a way to decompress tonight.
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Post by elle on Jan 25, 2023 16:20:02 GMT -6
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Post by coffeecake on Jan 25, 2023 16:38:09 GMT -6
I’m having big education feelings today. Between the voucher nonsense, which my state is also trying to put in place, and that poor teacher being put in that position…I just can’t. Kids and teachers are being failed all over the place in this country and it makes me so angry and sad.
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Post by mrsweasley on Jan 25, 2023 16:50:42 GMT -6
I have not had a child with an IEP so I am not super familiar with all the ins and outs, but I have heard a parent at preschool pickup talking about her kindergartener on an IEP getting sent home early from school frequently or her having to go sit with him and it seems like such a failure from the school system. And maybe illegal? She seems very 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ about it though
Our education system is so broken in this country and we really need to do better
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Post by coffeecake on Jan 25, 2023 16:59:38 GMT -6
I have not had a child with an IEP so I am not super familiar with all the ins and outs, but I have heard a parent at preschool pickup talking about her kindergartener on an IEP getting sent home early from school frequently or her having to go sit with him and it seems like such a failure from the school system. And maybe illegal? She seems very 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ about it though Our education system is so broken in this country and we really need to do better I don’t know what that parent/child’s situation is, but I’ve been in buildings where this has happened. Unfortunately, if a child is a physical danger to themselves or others, this does happen. It’s uncommon, but oftentimes schools don’t have another good option. There are kids who can be physically aggressive to the point where it is not safe for them to be at school. It is only done as a last resort. I have no idea that’s the case is with the person you know, of course.
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Post by cnf on Jan 25, 2023 17:06:44 GMT -6
JFC, cnf. Thank you for what you do for those kids. What a day. I hope you can find a way to decompress tonight. Yoga before bed and a run before work tomorrow is all I need. It's another day in the life of.
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 25, 2023 17:11:24 GMT -6
Idaho has 'renamed' vouchers to 'education savings accounts'. and its already in the 3 short weeks of our lege had a committee hearing.
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