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Post by vvvvvfee on Jun 22, 2017 8:58:51 GMT -6
For the purposes of this check-in, we will define extended breastfeeding as breastfeeding beyond 1 year. Questions are repeated and suggestions are appreciated! 1. How old is your LO? 2. How many times per day does your LO nurse? 3. What other milk did you introduce and at what age? 4. Does your LO nurse to sleep? If not, what is their bedtime routine like? Pregnant & BFing Moms: How are you doing this week? Any issues with supply, pain, aversion? Questions for other moms? Tandem Nursing Moms: How are you doing this week? Any current challenges? Questions for other moms? Non-BFing question of the week: Would you rather be able to know the history of an object just by touching it or be able to talk to animals?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 9:20:58 GMT -6
1. How old is your LO? 17 months 2. How many times per day does your LO nurse? wake-up, nap, late afternoon, bedtime, overnight.... the overnight/ wake-up nursing can be a lot... we need to cut back on that 3. What other milk did you introduce and at what age? she got cow's milk when i stopped pumping enough to have her drink exclusive BM at daycare... maybe 14 months? she gets one cup BM now and the rest cow's milk. daycare does 2% 4. Does your LO nurse to sleep? If not, what is their bedtime routine like? yep. i nurse her/ rock her to sleep. we used to read good night moon, but lately she says no and pushes the book away. she is ready for "night night" and "milky"
Non-BFing question of the week: Would you rather be able to know the history of an object just by touching it or be able to talk to animals?talking to animals would be great, if I could turn the power on and off.
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Post by vvvvvfee on Jun 22, 2017 9:52:03 GMT -6
1. How old is your LO? 23 months 2. How many times per day does your LO nurse? 3-4 3. What other milk did you introduce and at what age? whole cow's milk sometime between 12-14 months. i stopped pumping at work at around 14 months and began sending a cup of WCM with DS2's lunch. he has never been a huge WCM fan, though. 4. Does your LO nurse to sleep? If not, what is their bedtime routine like? He doesn't nurse to sleep anymore. He nurses before bed (lately it's been pretty brief), then says "byeee!" and runs into the room he shares with DS1. DH sits in there with them until they fall asleep.
Non-BFing question of the week: Would you rather be able to know the history of an object just by touching it or be able to talk to animals? That's tough- it would be really interesting to get object history, but it might be traumatic, too? Also with animals. I think with either it'd be key to be able to turn it on and off. I might choose the animal talking one, though... my H and I were always really desperate to know our late cat, kittyman's, backstory (he was a stray and had a crooked front leg that had obviously been broken at some point and healed wrong).
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Post by byjove on Jun 22, 2017 9:52:58 GMT -6
1. 18 months 2. I'm going to say 4 ish. We are in the process of night weaning, which will drastically reduce the overall count. 3. At 14 months or so, we introduced hemp milk due to allergies (and no nut milks at daycare). She is refusing it these days though. So we are trying to push coconut yogurt per dietician. 4. Medicine, books, nurse, snuggle with daddy. Every once in a while she'll nurse to sleep. That's more likely to happen on the weekend for a nap.
Bonus: I think knowing the history of an object by touching. I'm afraid the animals would have too many negative things to say about humans.
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Post by Risscaboobs on Jun 22, 2017 11:21:10 GMT -6
1. How old is your LO? 19 months 2. How many times per day does your LO nurse? Just once before bed. She nurses some MOTN for comfort, but only for like 5 seconds. 3. What other milk did you introduce and at what age? She drinks 1% cow's milk, just because that's what we drink. She started getting it at one year. 4. Does your LO nurse to sleep? If not, what is their bedtime routine like? Yes, most nights. Three nights a week though, daddy puts her to bed. That involves two books, some snuggling, and then he lays her down and sits in the room until she falls asleep.
Non-BFing question of the week: Would you rather be able to know the history of an object just by touching it or be able to talk to animals? I agree that the key would be being able to turn the ability off. If I couldn't turn it off, I guess I'd take history of an object. If I could turn it off, I'd take the animals.
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Post by byjove on Jun 22, 2017 11:24:27 GMT -6
I think it's great how many of our kids snuggle to sleep with daddy.
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Post by billyhorrible on Jun 22, 2017 11:25:17 GMT -6
Sooooooo I think this is my last week here guys. BH fell asleep in the car Saturday and Sunday night and ended up not nursing before bed. Monday night I got home after DH had put him to bed. We decided to run with it and the past two nights DH has put him to bed. Tuesday night sounded easier than Wednesday night. I'm in a good place about it though...I'm not sure if that's because it's early and the hormones haven't hit or if I was just ready to be done.
But I wanted to stop in and send my love, support, and gratitude to all of you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 12:04:02 GMT -6
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Post by jewel on Jun 22, 2017 12:56:08 GMT -6
1. How old is your LO? 15.5 months 2. How many times per day does your LO nurse? 3. 3. What other milk did you introduce and at what age? We don't, we have tried WCM a few times, but aren't pushing it. We were delayed in being "cleared" to drink it but at her 15 month appt the pedi was like you can do it but don't feel like you have to if LO eats well. Children need calcium/vitamin D and fat, not specifically milk, which reminds me why I love our doctor. 4. Does your LO nurse to sleep? If not, what is their bedtime routine like? No. Bath, run around naked for a bit, teeth, diaper, story or not depending on how sleepy LO seems, pjs, nurse into bed. So it's last but she hasn't nursed to sleep since she has been like 4 months old, she stopped on her own.
Non-BFing question of the week: Would you rather be able to know the history of an object just by touching it or be able to talk to animals? The object one. Not that I think it's a really great power it's just it would probably be really hard to not be a vegetarian and talk to animals and I really like meat.
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Post by Risscaboobs on Jun 22, 2017 16:55:07 GMT -6
Sooooooo I think this is my last week here guys. BH fell asleep in the car Saturday and Sunday night and ended up not nursing before bed. Monday night I got home after DH had put him to bed. We decided to run with it and the past two nights DH has put him to bed. Tuesday night sounded easier than Wednesday night. I'm in a good place about it though...I'm not sure if that's because it's early and the hormones haven't hit or if I was just ready to be done. But I wanted to stop in and send my love, support, and gratitude to all of you. Congrats on your journey. I'm glad you're feeling good about it!
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Post by aves0708 on Jun 22, 2017 19:22:41 GMT -6
1. How old is your LO? 20 months 2. How many times per day does your LO nurse? 2-4 3. What other milk did you introduce and at what age? I tried WCM around 15 or 16 months and she was not a fan. She is still not a big fan so it's not part of her regular diet. She will drink DH's skim milk sometimes but she won't really drink milk if I put it in her cup. Her pediatrician said pretty much the same thing that jewel's Dr. said. 4. Does your LO nurse to sleep? If not, what is their bedtime routine like? She does not nurse to sleep. She nurses at the start of bedtime routine and then it goes-bath, lotion/diaper, pjs, snack, brush teeth, sleep sack, and read two books. Then we rock her/cuddle with her for 10-15 minutes. Sometimes if she's really tired she'll fall asleep during this time, if she's still awake then we say goodnight and she goes to sleep in her crib. DH and I alternate doing the routine. Pregnant & BFing Moms: How are you doing this week? Any issues with supply, pain, aversion? Questions for other moms? I am almost 28 weeks and 100% experiencing nursing aversion. It is so strange for me to feel this way and I'm having a lot of guilt about it. I'm reading that it's pretty normal during pregnancy but that's not alleviating any of my guilt. I'm trying to deal with it by offering nursing only morning and night. If I let her, she'd latch on FOREVER, so I'm limiting how long she can nurse too. She's doing ok, but sometimes are harder than others. If she asks to nurse throughout the day I'll let her for a few minutes. If any other ladies experienced aversion I'll take any tips on how to manage it. Non-BFing question of the week: Would you rather be able to know the history of an object just by touching it or be able to talk to animals? Talk to animals!
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Post by tinydancer on Jun 22, 2017 20:54:12 GMT -6
1. How old is your LO? Almost 17 months! 2. How many times per day does your LO nurse? 2-3 3. What other milk did you introduce and at what age? WCM around 12 months. Now he also gets 2% at preschool and he'll have my 1% when we share cereal. 4. Does your LO nurse to sleep? If not, what is their bedtime routine like? Bedtime goes books, jammies, (usually) more books, brush teeth, nurse. He's usually awake when he unlatches, but VERY drowsy. I've been meaning to switch nursing and brushing teeth for the sake of his teeth, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet.
Non-BFing question of the week: I think talk to animals. As long as I could sometimes ignore them. I'm pretty sure my dog is just always saying Mom, Mom, belly rub!
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Post by tinydancer on Jun 22, 2017 20:55:48 GMT -6
What a big step billyhorrible! I'm glad you're feeling pretty good about it. aves0708, I don't have any experience but I hear that aversion while pregnant is pretty common. I have no advice on how to deal with it, just good thoughts.
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Post by lily on Jun 23, 2017 6:14:19 GMT -6
1. How old is your LO? - 2.25 year
2. How many times per day does your LO nurse? - 4-5
3. What other milk did you introduce and at what age? - cows milk, sometime shortly after a year. We exclusively nursed but I had some breastmilk in the freezer for just in case I was away overnight and he needed something MOTN. I wanted to give it to my bff when her daughter came home from the nicu, so I went ahead and intro'd cows milk to be that emergency MOTN backup.
4. Does your LO nurse to sleep? If not, what is their bedtime routine like? - not unless he had a particularly trying day and falls asleep mid bedtime routine. DH- PJs, say goodnight to the dog Me- nurse, book, prayers DH- lullaby in crib awake
Non-BFing question of the week: Would you rather be able to know the history of an object just by touching it or be able to talk to animals? - talk to animals.
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Post by lily on Jun 23, 2017 6:18:38 GMT -6
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Post by vvvvvfee on Jun 23, 2017 9:14:22 GMT -6
I am almost 28 weeks and 100% experiencing nursing aversion. It is so strange for me to feel this way and I'm having a lot of guilt about it. I'm reading that it's pretty normal during pregnancy but that's not alleviating any of my guilt. I'm trying to deal with it by offering nursing only morning and night. If I let her, she'd latch on FOREVER, so I'm limiting how long she can nurse too. She's doing ok, but sometimes are harder than others. If she asks to nurse throughout the day I'll let her for a few minutes. If any other ladies experienced aversion I'll take any tips on how to manage it. hugs! do NOT feel guilty! DS1 was just over 2 when i got pregnant with DS2. i had bad nursing aversion from the get-go-- it was the worst in first trimester. it made me so agitated i felt like pulling him off and throwing him across the room. i really identified with this description of it: DS2 didn't nurse as much during 2nd trimester since my supply dried up, so it was easier to deal with then. he picked up a little bit during 3rd trimester when my colostrum came in, and i still had aversion, but it wasn't at the same level that it was during 1st trimester. i tandem nursed both kids for over a year before pushing DS1 to wean. the nursing aversion for DS1 didn't completely disappear after DS2 was born and my milk came in, but it was miles better. i still had squicky-feeling moments with DS1-- for instance, i had trouble tolerating both kids nursing at once, and avoided it whenever possible-- but i could generally deal. after the first couple weeks of DS1 being milk-crazy, i did set firm limits with him on length and number of sessions per day. again, PLEASE don't feel guilty. it's a hormonal thing. what helped me the most was setting limits. when i got pregnant, DS1 was generally nursing morning/after work/before bed. i weaned him off the after-work session (i was particularly exhausted then) by decreasing the length of the session each day (i'd count up to 30 on each side, then 20, then 10), and eventually he lost interest. for the other two, i kept them super short- i'd either sing something quick like the ABC song or just count up to 10 on each side and then say "all done!" with DS's personality, it was easier to just let him nurse, even if it was super-brief-- if i totally denied him he would usually tantrum. you can also try to distract them with another activity, or offer a BM substitute-- warm WCM or similar-- and cuddle while LO drinks. it sounds like you're already doing this- but you can literally go down to just seconds per side. (and if you eventually feel like you need to wean for your sanity, it's OK!) here are a few articles which include descriptions about how awful it feels for people-- it really is a primal, violent feeling. Breastfeeding Agitation7 Tips to Help Cope with Nursing AversionGet Away From Me! I Love YouWhen Nursing Your Child Gives You the Heebie Jeebies
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Post by byjove on Jun 23, 2017 9:34:57 GMT -6
I am almost 28 weeks and 100% experiencing nursing aversion. It is so strange for me to feel this way and I'm having a lot of guilt about it. I'm reading that it's pretty normal during pregnancy but that's not alleviating any of my guilt. I'm trying to deal with it by offering nursing only morning and night. If I let her, she'd latch on FOREVER, so I'm limiting how long she can nurse too. She's doing ok, but sometimes are harder than others. If she asks to nurse throughout the day I'll let her for a few minutes. If any other ladies experienced aversion I'll take any tips on how to manage it. hugs! do NOT feel guilty! DS1 was just over 2 when i got pregnant with DS2. i had bad nursing aversion from the get-go-- it was the worst in first trimester. it made me so agitated i felt like pulling him off and throwing him across the room. i really identified with this description of it: DS2 didn't nurse as much during 2nd trimester since my supply dried up, so it was easier to deal with then. he picked up a little bit during 3rd trimester when my colostrum came in, and i still had aversion, but it wasn't at the same level that it was during 1st trimester. i tandem nursed both kids for over a year before pushing DS1 to wean. the nursing aversion for DS1 didn't completely disappear after DS2 was born and my milk came in, but it was miles better. i still had squicky-feeling moments with DS1-- for instance, i had trouble tolerating both kids nursing at once, and avoided it whenever possible-- but i could generally deal. after the first couple weeks of DS1 being milk-crazy, i did set firm limits with him on length and number of sessions per day. again, PLEASE don't feel guilty. it's a hormonal thing. what helped me the most was setting limits. when i got pregnant, DS1 was generally nursing morning/after work/before bed. i weaned him off the after-work session (i was particularly exhausted then) by decreasing the length of the session each day (i'd count up to 30 on each side, then 20, then 10), and eventually he lost interest. for the other two, i kept them super short- i'd either sing something quick like the ABC song or just count up to 10 on each side and then say "all done!" with DS's personality, it was easier to just let him nurse, even if it was super-brief-- if i totally denied him he would usually tantrum. you can also try to distract them with another activity, or offer a BM substitute-- warm WCM or similar-- and cuddle while LO drinks. it sounds like you're already doing this- but you can literally go down to just seconds per side. (and if you eventually feel like you need to wean for your sanity, it's OK!) here are a few articles which include descriptions about how awful it feels for people-- it really is a primal, violent feeling. Breastfeeding Agitation7 Tips to Help Cope with Nursing AversionGet Away From Me! I Love YouWhen Nursing Your Child Gives You the Heebie JeebiesI also struggled with this. It would come and go until she weaned when I hit 3rd tri. I can't exactly remember how I managed, but I think similar to you I would just impose time limits and not let her nurse to infinity. It worked to give her a countdown. Like 5-4-3-2-1 all done!
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Post by sammysam on Jun 23, 2017 18:02:07 GMT -6
1. How old is your LO? A month away from 3.5 years
2. How many times per day does your LO nurse? We are at around 2 now...but anywhere from 1 to 4 depending on the day.
3. What other milk did you introduce and at what age? We did WCM at around 1.5 years and then 2% around 2.5 years...maybe earlier. She LOVES milk.
4. Does your LO nurse to sleep? If not, what is their bedtime routine like? Yes. We still nurse to sleep unless she falls asleep in the car coming home from somewhere.
Non-BFing question of the week: The history of an object. I've always been interested in knowing the back stories of things.
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Post by aves0708 on Jun 23, 2017 19:47:31 GMT -6
vvvvvfee, Thank you for all of the great information and sharing your experience. I was shouting YES to the "soft fluttery suckling" description you posted. It made me shutter the other day and I just felt so bad afterwords because I was basically like "I need you to be all done RIGHT NOW CHILD". Last night I made myself go to bed an hour earlier than I normally have been, and getting that extra rest seemed to help. The more exhausted I am (which is often at this point) the worse I handle the aversion. I know sleep is not going to get better at this point though so I just need to make sure I'm getting to bed earlier. She's been mostly good with me setting limits on length of the session but she would still nurse on and on and on if I let her. Usually I give her about 2 minutes but it's so good to hear that you had success with eventually limiting the session to the length of a song or a count to 10. A couple times this week 2 minutes felt like an eternity so I can see myself needing to shorten the session even more if this continues.
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Post by Dramaphile on Jun 26, 2017 7:28:03 GMT -6
1. How old is your LO? 19 months 2. How many times per day does your LO nurse? 2-3 on weekdays when i get home from work, 3-4 on weekends 3. What other milk did you introduce and at what age? we introduced WCM when she was a little over a year and I stopped pumping at work. Now she drinks mostly WCM in a cup, occasionally soy or almond milk as a treat. 4. Does your LO nurse to sleep? If not, what is their bedtime routine like? She nurses before bed, but not to sleep unless she's exceptionally tired. Usually, she nurses both sides with the light on, and then we read books and snuggle and then she goes down in her crib to sleep.
Non-BFing question of the week: Would you rather be able to know the history of an object just by touching it or be able to talk to animals? As much as I'd like to talk to my dogs, i don't think i would want to talk to eeeeevery animal. Especially because I like to eat meat. Plus, knowing the history of an object by touching it would be an awesome skill to have if I decide to become a CSI.
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Post by zyna on Jun 26, 2017 16:30:08 GMT -6
1. How old is your LO? 22 months 2. How many times per day does your LO nurse? Still 2! I made it a week without nursing without any change in my supply, and surprisingly no engorgement or need to express while I was away. LO still wanted to nurse when I returned so we are back to our usual routine. 3. What other milk did you introduce and at what age? She occasionally had formula as a baby because she would not ever drink breastmilk from a bottle. She also drinks cow's milk at daycare (started around 12 months) and when I am not around. 4. Does your LO nurse to sleep? If not, what is their bedtime routine like? No nursing to sleep. I take her to her room, change into pyjamas and sleep sack, read a book or two, then put her to bed with her blanket and whatever random object she wants to sleep with that night. I know she's really tired, because she will ask for bed and blanket before we even get to the books sometimes
Non-BFing question of the week: Would you rather be able to know the history of an object just by touching it or be able to talk to animals?
I was thinking talk to animals, but people brought up good points about not being able to eat meat. I would hope that knowing an object's history could be controlled because there are some things that could be very gross, and I would rather not know
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Post by sunfrogger on Jun 27, 2017 17:38:07 GMT -6
1. 19mo 2. 2-3x 3. WCM introduced at 13mo and she refused it. She finally started drinking chocolate milk at 18mo. 4. Yes, we nurse to sleep, taking all the recommendations though!
Pregnant & BF-ING: so I go here now. I'm 6w tomorrow. Other than some nipple sensitivity I'm fine. DD doesn't notice any difference yet but it's early days. Q- when should I expect to dry up?
GTKY : I would love to know the history of something by touching. How amazing!!!
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Post by lily on Jun 28, 2017 14:00:38 GMT -6
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Post by byjove on Jun 28, 2017 14:20:14 GMT -6
sunfrogger, I think I switched over to colustrum around the midway point. I don't think I ever "dried up." I think my LO was mostly comfort nursing at that point (she was also 19 mo when I got KU). I don't think she was a huge fan of the colostrum, and eventually self weaned when I hit 3rd tri and she was just over 2 yo. Obviously some kids don't mind and that's how you end up tandem nursing.
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Post by vvvvvfee on Jun 28, 2017 14:31:46 GMT -6
sunfrogger, my supply was totally gone by second trimester. i started to get colostrum in 3rd trimester. having no milk didn't discourage DS1 from nursing, but he was less rabid about it and in retrospect it probably wouldn't have been that hard to wean him around that time. the taste of your milk does change at some point, so some kids self-wean because of that. take it day by day and see how you feel.
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Post by sunfrogger on Jun 29, 2017 8:59:45 GMT -6
Thanks guys. I'd like to wean by 2 so that sounds pretty in line.
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