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Post by mrsmonogrammed on Aug 22, 2018 12:58:35 GMT -6
Tell me about ‘em.
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Post by mrsmonogrammed on Aug 22, 2018 13:01:03 GMT -6
Right now we start the process between 6:45-7pm, get a diaper, jammies, and sleep sack (if cold enough) on. Then nurse both sides and he usually falls asleep nursing the last side so I just place him the crib and leave. The last few days he’s still awake after nursing and fights sleep a little bit so I’ve been rocking him but I don’t want to fall into that trap😩
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Post by cornpop on Aug 22, 2018 13:09:32 GMT -6
We usually start around 645. We'll put Noelle in her PJs, then go to Emaline's room, read, put her in her PJs and then sing. Then Em goes to bed and we bring Noelle down to cuddle with us. She usually cuddles and falls asleep on one of us then we put her in her crib when I go to bed.
We're probably creating a monster but I'm never going to have another baby to cuddle so right now I don't care. Right now it's working for us
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Post by whatsit on Aug 22, 2018 13:19:30 GMT -6
We usually put A to bed first - change and put pjs on then I nurse both sides. She goes into her crib awake usually and we have one of those crib aquariums that she loves to watch and fall asleep to.
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Post by Leaf 🌱 on Aug 22, 2018 13:19:39 GMT -6
We usually start around 645. We'll put Noelle in her PJs, then go to Emaline's room, read, put her in her PJs and then sing. Then Em goes to bed and we bring Noelle down to cuddle with us. She usually cuddles and falls asleep on one of us then we put her in her crib when I go to bed. We're probably creating a monster but I'm never going to have another baby to cuddle so right now I don't care. Right now it's working for us +1 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by clementine on Aug 22, 2018 14:28:47 GMT -6
Jammies go on when we get home from daycare around 6:30. Around 7:45, we check/change diaper, then start nursing. It goes one of two ways from here.
1. Nurse completely to sleep. After he’s done nursing, I put him in his sleep sack. If he’s completely out and doesn’t wake up, I just lay him in his crib, turn on white noise, turn off light, and let him sleep. I’m trying to have this happen less often now because I’m afraid of the nurse to sleep association.
2. Finish nursing and he’s some degree of awake. Put him in his sleep sack, read a couple books (5-10 min), sing a song, turn on white noise, turn off light, lay him in his crib. I’ll give him his pacifier if he wants it. Say goodnight and walk out. Sometimes he rolls on his side and falls right asleep. Sometimes he talks and rolls around for a while, and I might have to go in and give the pacifier or roll him back to his back if he gets on his belly and gets fussy because he can’t roll back over. It’s usually a max of 15 min before he’s asleep.
I’ve been trying to separate nursing from bedtime, but he eats when we get home at 6:30 and is definitely ready for bed at 8 or before, so there’s no way he’d take a full feed before 7:45.
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Post by snowmoon on Aug 22, 2018 15:26:45 GMT -6
I get E in jammies right after dinner -around 6:15 while B is in the bath. So will get him in jammies and read him stories while I nurse E. She usually falls asleep pretty quickly and I put her in the crib. She wakes up half an hour later and I spend the next 4 hours picking her up and putting her down and wishing I was literally anywhere else.
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Post by mintyblueair on Aug 22, 2018 15:33:27 GMT -6
We start at 6:30 (or as early as 6 if her last nap ended early). We do a bath, cream, Pj's, bottle in her room, and then set her down in her crib. She usually falls asleep or is really sleepy by the end of her bottle, but if she isn't she gets put down awake.
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Post by nevertoomanyshoes on Aug 22, 2018 16:04:03 GMT -6
I’ll preface by saying DS1 goes to bed pretty early and from almost the start the baby sort of decided he was down with slipping into the same routine.
Baby has a bath at around 4:15 ish. DS1 eats “dinner” (he’s a real grazer so not very hungry by end of day, especially on daycare days when the eat like literally five times in the day plus fruit whenever they want- I swear they spend most of the day eating lol) and chills with a show while I bath baby.
Get into pyjamas and nurse. Change diaper and put on sleepsuit, nurse a little more (to settle).
If he’s an overtired mess, he then goes to bed (5:00pm ish). Most nights it’s this.
I will add a bedtime story after the nursing soon, when he’s in a better day nap routine and not losing his shit by 5.
DS1’s routine was bath, pjs, nurse, sleep sack, books, bed. Which we will start with DS2 soon. I hope to bath them both together and do the routine together once DS2 can sit up properly in the bath (and stay awake until 5:30 which is DS1’s bath time).
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Post by nevertoomanyshoes on Aug 22, 2018 16:06:07 GMT -6
When I go back to work the baby will just have to move his routine a bit later.
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Post by leatherpants on Aug 22, 2018 19:50:11 GMT -6
We still don’t have a set bedtime. He has a good nap in the morning but his afternoon naps are so hit and miss. Lately he’s havjng a nap at around 430-515. So around 7, I nurse him, give him a bath, diaper change, lotion, pjs and sleep sack and then I turn off the lights, turn on the sound machine and sing him a lullaby while we cuddle. Then I put him down and kiss his forehead.
And he’s been rolling over on to his stomach so at some point I go back in to make sure he’s breathing. X1000
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Post by alwayscheese on Aug 22, 2018 21:28:27 GMT -6
We don't have a set bedtime mostly because his naps vary so greatly and this drives me crazy. When we're home: around 6 o'clock he gets a bath, clean ears and brush teeth, diaper & sleeper & sleep sack on. Lights dim and white sound machine on. Usually a short story, bedtime prayer, then light off and cuddle, sing and rock till he's drowsy. Lay him in his crib. Either he groans, rolls around a bit and goes to sleep or he rolls around a lot and fusses and sometimes cries enough that we go in and pat or rock some more to settle him. I am a little frustrated with how long this takes sometimes.
Nap times are exactly the same from sleep sack till rolling around in the crib and minus bedtime prayer.
If we are away from home sleep routine is : strap into bucket seat, give him blanket or lovey to cuddle, turn on white sound machine, put stretch cover over seat, rock seat(or drive) a while and he usually goes to sleep quickly depending on how tired he is. And I pull the blanket/lovey out once he's asleep. But sometimes he screams every time you stop rocking the seat and kicks the cover loose every 2 minutes and this goes on until I want a nap also.
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Post by katietopaz on Aug 22, 2018 22:00:01 GMT -6
We have a later bedtime than most but it works for us - it comes from DH's old job, where he didn't get home until 6:30 at the earliest, usually 7, and we tried to get an hour of family time in before bed. So. DH starts the bedtime routine with the toddler at 8ish: brush teeth, jammies, a little quiet wind-down play in his bedroom, read a few books, goodnight song, then lights off around 8:30. Once he starts that routine, I take the baby back to our room (where he still sleeps) and nurse him, then strip him down to his diaper for a little quiet naked time. We join DH and the toddler for the goodnight song, then take the baby back to our room to put on pjs and a couple minutes of eyeball time with DH. Swaddle him up, then hit the lights and rock him for a few minutes till he settles (but hopefully not totally asleep) then set him down in the PNP. I created an absolute MONSTER of a nurse/suck-to-sleep association with DS1, so I'm doing everything I can to avoid that this time, at least at bedtime. He's been mostly amenable so far, but I know that could change at any moment. Naps are a shitshow He's at four or five 20-30 minute catnaps a day, almost always on me or on-the-go. There's one afternoon nap that I can reliably get him off me and into the RNP, but I'm having a lot of trouble getting him to sleep without nursing for naps.
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Post by leatherpants on Aug 22, 2018 22:36:45 GMT -6
Same here katietopaz. I’m trying to avoid the nurse to sleep as much as I can simply because I have PTSD from DS1.
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Post by katietopaz on Aug 22, 2018 23:09:37 GMT -6
Same here katietopaz . I’m trying to avoid the nurse to sleep as much as I can simply because I have PTSD from DS1. Oh man, you too? I'm sorry. Lots and lots of empathy. What started with some bad habits and a couple extra wakeups during the 4-month sleep regression ultimately turned into DS1 waking up every 45 minutes demanding the boob by the time he was 7 months old. It was truly, truly awful and I about lost my mind.
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Post by leatherpants on Aug 22, 2018 23:12:28 GMT -6
Same here katietopaz . I’m trying to avoid the nurse to sleep as much as I can simply because I have PTSD from DS1. Oh man, you too? I'm sorry. Lots and lots of empathy. What started with some bad habits and a couple extra wakeups during the 4-month sleep regression ultimately turned into DS1 waking up every 45 minutes demanding the boob by the time he was 7 months old. It was truly, truly awful and I about lost my mind. Yes. Yes. Exactly. The 45 min wake ups made me crazy. Solidarity sister. Those were dark times
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Post by calendula on Aug 23, 2018 8:54:11 GMT -6
We all eat dinner as a family around 6:30. L gets some puree then and sits at the table with us while we eat. We snuggle or she sits and laughs while DS goofs off for her until we are ready to get her cleaned up for bed.
Around 7:30-8 DH starts her routine: she gets clean pajamas, clean diaper, probiotics, her zipadeezip suit, her nighttime bottle. He barely rocks her to sleep, honestly. She nods off pretty much as soon as she gets horizontal with a pacifier. She's usually in her bassinet in our bedroom by 8:30.
DS is 6. While DH does L's bedtime routine, he and I snuggle and watch the Red Sox game together for a bit. He showers once he gets home from summer camp. When he starts school again, we would head upstairs a little earlier to do shower time before bed. By 8 he brushes teeth, uses the bathroom, and we read books together in his bed. Lights out usually at 8:30.
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Post by calendula on Aug 23, 2018 8:57:13 GMT -6
I should note that DS was a horrible sleeper and I rocked him to sleep with a pacifier until he was 4.
So.
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Post by cornpop on Aug 23, 2018 10:53:59 GMT -6
I should note that DS was a horrible sleeper and I rocked him to sleep with a pacifier until he was 4. So. How do I nominate you for sainthood?
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Post by calendula on Aug 23, 2018 10:56:22 GMT -6
I should note that DS was a horrible sleeper and I rocked him to sleep with a pacifier until he was 4. So. How do I nominate you for sainthood? Lol it may have been my fault! Either I created that monster or I survived it, one or the other. Moms. We do what we have to do.
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Post by yianna on Aug 24, 2018 19:12:41 GMT -6
I feel selfish bc I want time with her before bed. We get home around 615, I nurse her.
Bedtime is 8. PJs, and nurse to sleep. This can take an hour but I don’t care, I want as much time with her as possible. She then goes to sleep and normally does not wake until 3am. Short nursing and back down.
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Post by babybean on Aug 25, 2018 7:34:26 GMT -6
I feel selfish bc I want time with her before bed. We get home around 615, I nurse her. Bedtime is 8. PJs, and nurse to sleep. This can take an hour but I don’t care, I want as much time with her as possible. She then goes to sleep and normally does not wake until 3am. Short nursing and back down. This isn’t selfish at all.
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Post by dizzycooks on Aug 25, 2018 13:31:19 GMT -6
These stories are making my feel all kinds of things. Guilt mostly. My baby doesn't sleep. He sure doesn't sleep on his own. I don't know the last night he spent the whole night in his bassinet. We include him in the girl's routine and then in theory he's suppose to go to bed. Except he never does. He will cry and cry for hours if we let him. Hell, he'll cry even if we hold him. It's awful. Eventually he passes out and sleeps until 11pm or so. Then he's up every hour or two and may nurse back to sleep or grunt and cry until I bring him to bed. We will be sleep training via CIO at 6 months and I feel terrible about it. How does one do that with a pacifier anyway?
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Post by katietopaz on Aug 26, 2018 15:57:17 GMT -6
These stories are making my feel all kinds of things. Guilt mostly. My baby doesn't sleep. He sure doesn't sleep on his own. I don't know the last night he spent the whole night in his bassinet. We include him in the girl's routine and then in theory he's suppose to go to bed. Except he never does. He will cry and cry for hours if we let him. Hell, he'll cry even if we hold him. It's awful. Eventually he passes out and sleeps until 11pm or so. Then he's up every hour or two and may nurse back to sleep or grunt and cry until I bring him to bed. We will be sleep training via CIO at 6 months and I feel terrible about it. How does one do that with a pacifier anyway? You do what you need to for your mental health, and don't feel guilty or terrible about it. We did CIO with DS1 when he was 7-8 months old and I felt awful about it, but he was miserable at night and during the day and we'd tried absolutely everything else. I could be wrong, but I think a lot of sleep-training schools of thought revolve around the idea of eliminating sleep crutches/associations. The idea being that as a baby goes through sleep cycles during the night and partly wakes up at the end of each sleep cycle, things are the same as when they first fell asleep (so, if you rock to sleep, they expect to wake up in your arms. If they nurse to sleep, they expect to wake up with a boob in their mouth, etc). I'm sure there are ways you can do some sleep training with a pacifier, but I think a lot of books/people will suggest you ditch it at night. I know I'm probably annoying with how often I bring up this blog/book, but I've found it so helpful with both boys, and maybe you could find some suggestions there? www.preciouslittlesleep.com/what-you-need-to-know-about-sleeping-through-the-night-part-i/I'm so sorry you're having such a tough time with your little guy. Hang in there. Edit to add: I did find the PLS blog post on pacis, if that helps: www.preciouslittlesleep.com/how-to-use-and-loose-the-pacifier/
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Post by leatherpants on Aug 26, 2018 18:30:13 GMT -6
These stories are making my feel all kinds of things. Guilt mostly. My baby doesn't sleep. He sure doesn't sleep on his own. I don't know the last night he spent the whole night in his bassinet. We include him in the girl's routine and then in theory he's suppose to go to bed. Except he never does. He will cry and cry for hours if we let him. Hell, he'll cry even if we hold him. It's awful. Eventually he passes out and sleeps until 11pm or so. Then he's up every hour or two and may nurse back to sleep or grunt and cry until I bring him to bed. We will be sleep training via CIO at 6 months and I feel terrible about it. How does one do that with a pacifier anyway? It breaks my heart a little bit that you feel guilty. Let that shit go man. That is not helping you or him. I also felt terrible about doing CIO with my oldest and honest to god, I now feel occasional guilt for not doing it sooner with him because he was so much happier afterwards when he was fucking sleeping. Like, no shit me. Ok. I digressed there but my point is some kids are stubborn ass sleepers and if you have older kids who sleep means your little guy is probably one of those stubborn ones what’s to feel guilty about there? I heartily co-sign everything katietopaz posted. And I hope things improve for you guys. That sounds awful. But not permanent. ❤️
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Post by dizzycooks on Aug 26, 2018 18:33:50 GMT -6
These stories are making my feel all kinds of things. Guilt mostly. My baby doesn't sleep. He sure doesn't sleep on his own. I don't know the last night he spent the whole night in his bassinet. We include him in the girl's routine and then in theory he's suppose to go to bed. Except he never does. He will cry and cry for hours if we let him. Hell, he'll cry even if we hold him. It's awful. Eventually he passes out and sleeps until 11pm or so. Then he's up every hour or two and may nurse back to sleep or grunt and cry until I bring him to bed. We will be sleep training via CIO at 6 months and I feel terrible about it. How does one do that with a pacifier anyway? It breaks my heart a little bit that you feel guilty. Let that shit go man. That is not helping you or him. I also felt terrible about doing CIO with my oldest and honest to god, I now feel occasional guilt for not doing it sooner with him because he was so much happier afterwards when he was fucking sleeping. Like, no shit me. Ok. I digressed there but my point is some kids are stubborn ass sleepers and if you have older kids who sleep means your little guy is probably one of those stubborn ones what’s to feel guilty about there? I heartily co-sign everything katietopaz posted. And I hope things improve for you guys. That sounds awful. But not permanent. ❤️ Oh my second was a freaking nightmare sleeper. I have serious issues around sleep bc of her. That girl didn’t sleep for 2 1/2 years. My need for sleep has just increased since then. I don’t know how to ditch the paci though. Like, just don’t give it to him?
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Post by leatherpants on Aug 26, 2018 18:37:50 GMT -6
It breaks my heart a little bit that you feel guilty. Let that shit go man. That is not helping you or him. I also felt terrible about doing CIO with my oldest and honest to god, I now feel occasional guilt for not doing it sooner with him because he was so much happier afterwards when he was fucking sleeping. Like, no shit me. Ok. I digressed there but my point is some kids are stubborn ass sleepers and if you have older kids who sleep means your little guy is probably one of those stubborn ones what’s to feel guilty about there? I heartily co-sign everything katietopaz posted. And I hope things improve for you guys. That sounds awful. But not permanent. ❤️ Oh my second was a freaking nightmare sleeper. I have serious issues around sleep bc of her. That girl didn’t sleep for 2 1/2 years. My need for sleep has just increased since then. I don’t know how to ditch the paci though. Like, just don’t give it to him? Damn kids and sleep. It seems so easy. Why can’t they just do it. I also want to get rid of our pack since I think it’s creating sleep issues too. I just read that post Katie posted and it sounds decent to me - sort of taking it away slowly and then yes just getting rid of it. In her book she also talks about replacing the paci with something else - rocking or patting or something that you can gradually wean off of since sucking is all or nothing. So you can replace and then slowly wean or just go cold turkey
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Post by dizzycooks on Aug 26, 2018 18:57:19 GMT -6
Oh my second was a freaking nightmare sleeper. I have serious issues around sleep bc of her. That girl didn’t sleep for 2 1/2 years. My need for sleep has just increased since then. I don’t know how to ditch the paci though. Like, just don’t give it to him? Damn kids and sleep. It seems so easy. Why can’t they just do it. I also want to get rid of our pack since I think it’s creating sleep issues too. I just read that post Katie posted and it sounds decent to me - sort of taking it away slowly and then yes just getting rid of it. In her book she also talks about replacing the paci with something else - rocking or patting or something that you can gradually wean off of since sucking is all or nothing. So you can replace and then slowly wean or just go cold turkey Ok more sleep cues are probably needed. At least to be more consistent. Hard with three littles who are silly at bedtime. 😜 I let him cry for 5 minutes and went back and tucked his paci in and out his beanie baby back on his chest and he went to sleep. That beanie baby is going to be his lovey and we will “forget” the paci one of these days. He honestly uses it a ton during the day because he needs to wait so often and he cries a ton. Will try to get better about that. It’s definitely my go to soothing technique. My girls all sucked their fingers so they would just do that, I never had to do it for them!
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Post by cp3 on Aug 27, 2018 8:27:07 GMT -6
We still don't have a set bedtime for this baby either just because her naps are all over the place. If she doesn't have a late afternoon nap we will try putting her down around 6:30/7.
If she has a late nap, we do hers and D1 bedtime routines together. We start around 7/7:30. Baths, pajamas, vitamins for D1, brush teeth, two books, and then we sing two songs in D1's room.
Then the baby comes to our room where I change her diaper, put her in the zipadee zip, feed her and transfer her to the RNP when she is sleeping. We tried the bassinet last week and she slept really good in it one night and the other nights were not good. I feel like we are creating a monster and need to get her to sleep more in the bassinet and let her learn to put herself to sleep. But she is so fussy and particular about things and I need sleep.
D1 was such a good sleeper as a baby so this is all new territory for us.
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Post by nevertoomanyshoes on Aug 29, 2018 1:20:58 GMT -6
We are sleep training and damned if I can figure out why this stinker will settle at bedtime without being fed to sleep but not for naps. I’m on night 5 (?) I think of pick up put down method for bedtime and so far tonight ::touch wood:: no crying and no need to pick him up to comfort. But for nap, newp. So odd. Yesterday after I cried trying to settle him for a nap without letting him nurse to sleep because the screaming had broken my tired (and sick ugh) self, I gave in and nursed him because he was soooo over tired and worked up. Today, just went with feeding to sleep and he had two ok naps and one cat nap.
Babies man.
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