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Post by lupineaura on Jun 5, 2017 10:38:22 GMT -6
How tragic. It's also sad how there needs to be an immediate clarification that terrorism is not suspected.
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Post by lucilleaustero on Jun 5, 2017 10:49:34 GMT -6
Well that begs the question, how have we come to so narrowly define 'terrorist'? One who incites terror. I'd say this gunman did that. Brown skin. When whites open fire they are mentally ill. |
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Post by lucilleaustero on Jun 5, 2017 11:35:48 GMT -6
Brown skin. When whites open fire they are mentally ill. FFS. I know this to be true, but... FFS. I know, I know. And what drives me bonkers is not only are whites always mentally ill, AAs are labelled are thugs for the smallest of offenses. Let's be real, thug is a proxy for the n word, racists get to use it feel evolved for not saying the n word, but thug has become just as loaded a word as the n word. I am going to stop before my blood pressure rises. These poor people, poor Orlando. They have barely had time to recover from their last mass shooting. But let's not do anything about our gun laws. Guns for everyone! |
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Post by boycebear on Jun 5, 2017 11:41:55 GMT -6
Well that begs the question, how have we come to so narrowly define 'terrorist'? One who incites terror. I'd say this gunman did that. Brown skin. When whites open fire they are mentally ill. I get what you're saying, but I feel a bit icky about that. Jihadi John was white, there are others too. This is still terrible though, I wish this shit didn t happen. |
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Post by pepper on Jun 5, 2017 11:45:07 GMT -6
What a terrible tragedy. We were just writing our policy and having training for what to do in a lethal threat workplace event. Scary times we live in.
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Post by lucilleaustero on Jun 5, 2017 11:46:21 GMT -6
Brown skin. When whites open fire they are mentally ill. I get what you're saying, but I feel a bit icky about that. Jihadi John was white, there are others too. This is still terrible though, I wish this shit didn t happen. Jihadi John was a British man of Arab descent, so a POC. Are you thinking of someone else? |
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Post by hawkward on Jun 5, 2017 11:48:02 GMT -6
FFS. I know this to be true, but... FFS. I know, I know. And what drives me bonkers is not only are whites always mentally ill, AAs are labelled are thugs for the smallest of offenses. Let's be real, thug is a proxy for the n word, racists get to use it feel evolved for not saying the n word, but thug has become just as loaded a word as the n word. I am going to stop before my blood pressure rises. These poor people, poor Orlando. They have barely had time to recover from their last mass shooting. But let's not do anything about our gun laws. Guns for everyone! And this following Trump's tweet about how we're not talking about gun laws because the London attackers used a truck and knives... that's because they have gun laws in the UK, dumbass! |
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Post by boycebear on Jun 5, 2017 11:49:04 GMT -6
I get what you're saying, but I feel a bit icky about that. Jihadi John was white, there are others too. This is still terrible though, I wish this shit didn t happen. Jihadi John was a British man of Arab descent, so a POC. Are you thinking of someone else? He was? Well, the more you know. I'm sure there are more white terrorists though, I can't think of names, but I'm sure I've seen it on the news? I hate that there's a stereo type and it's all brown skin. |
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Post by lucilleaustero on Jun 5, 2017 11:51:49 GMT -6
Jihadi John was a British man of Arab descent, so a POC. Are you thinking of someone else? He was? Well, the more you know. I'm sure there are more white terrorists though, I can't think of names, but I'm sure I've seen it on the news? I hate that there's a stereo type and it's all brown skin. I think that a lot of people are very comfortable with that stereotype :-( |
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Post by boycebear on Jun 5, 2017 11:55:41 GMT -6
I get what you're saying, but I feel a bit icky about that. Jihadi John was white, there are others too. This is still terrible though, I wish this shit didn t happen. This is a very new take on #notallwhitepeople. Clever. Yes. It is terrible thing that man did killing his coworkers. Sorry, but you're going to have to spell this out for me. Are you annoyed by my post? I honestly can't tell. |
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Post by boycebear on Jun 5, 2017 11:56:08 GMT -6
He was? Well, the more you know. I'm sure there are more white terrorists though, I can't think of names, but I'm sure I've seen it on the news? I hate that there's a stereo type and it's all brown skin. I think that a lot of people are very comfortable with that stereotype :-( And there lies the problem  |
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Post by goldenbird on Jun 5, 2017 11:57:06 GMT -6
This is so horrible.
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Post by lucilleaustero on Jun 5, 2017 11:57:48 GMT -6
He was? Well, the more you know. I'm sure there are more white terrorists though, I can't think of names, but I'm sure I've seen it on the news? I hate that there's a stereo type and it's all brown skin. You've seen white men on the US news being called mentally ill when he does something like this? A white man travelled to NYC to "start a race war" and was still not called a terrorist. Meanwhile the man he attacked was scolded for resisting the police. I mean, our president waited 3 days to mention the racist attack in Portland. None of this should be a shock to anyone. |
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Post by boycebear on Jun 5, 2017 11:58:00 GMT -6
He was? Well, the more you know. I'm sure there are more white terrorists though, I can't think of names, but I'm sure I've seen it on the news? I hate that there's a stereo type and it's all brown skin. You've seen white men on the US news being called mentally ill when he does something like this? A white man travelled to NYC to "start a race war" and was still not called a terrorist. Meanwhile the man he attacked was scolded for resisting the police. I know this happens, my point is just that I hate the stereotype because there's an element of bullshit to it and it's disgusting. |
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Post by lucilleaustero on Jun 5, 2017 12:04:23 GMT -6
This is a very new take on #notallwhitepeople. Clever. Yes. It is terrible thing that man did killing his coworkers. Sorry, but you're going to have to spell this out for me. Are you annoyed by my post? I honestly can't tell. #notallwhitepeople...when whites take any talk about race relations and make it about white people. Instead of just aknowledging (sp?) that bad shit happens to brown people on the regular because of skin tone and religious beliefs, lots of white people feel the need to defend whites in a "not all whites" do that. See also white fragility. I am pretty new to these discussions because of my privilege, but many whites get so defensive when discussing race relations, when the focus should be on the group of people experiencing the inequality. |
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Post by boycebear on Jun 5, 2017 12:08:46 GMT -6
Sorry, but you're going to have to spell this out for me. Are you annoyed by my post? I honestly can't tell. #notallwhitepeople...when whites take any talk about race relations and make it about white people. Instead of just aknowledging (sp?) that bad shit happens to brown people on the regular because of skin tone and religious beliefs, lots of white people feel the need to defend whites in a "not all whites" do that. See also white fragility. I am pretty new to these discussions because of my privilege, but many whites get so defensive when discussing race relations, when the focus should be on the group of people experiencing the inequality. I didn't realise my post came off that way, I am not defending white people just to fit into the stereotype. I apologise if I've offended. |
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Post by RunsforWineandCarbs on Jun 5, 2017 12:31:56 GMT -6
i hate the title of this thread. i hate that this happened 7 days before the 1 year anniversary of pulse. i hate that it's anothershooting.
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Post by theoriginalbean on Jun 5, 2017 12:52:28 GMT -6
I also hate that it's become so commonplace that I didn't see it until I clicked over here.
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Post by RunsforWineandCarbs on Jun 5, 2017 17:52:31 GMT -6
1 of the victims was a father of two, who lost his wife 9 years ago. Now the 2 kids are parentless, an 18 yo and 14 yo. Close ties to organizations my family and friends are involved in.
Heartbreaking.
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