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Post by brux on Jun 1, 2017 21:02:55 GMT -6
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Post by lonefox on Jun 1, 2017 21:14:26 GMT -6
TIL what AAVE is. But I love this list. It very nicely sums up everything that was being said in the UO this morning.
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Post by Cher on Jun 1, 2017 21:21:49 GMT -6
This article is spot on.
I don't get uncomfortable when we have the convos today in UO. I used to but it's something I read a lot about it and I'm beyond the discomfort stage. But I do question how to respond, bc I read and I don't want to contribute bc it's not my convo nor do I want to make it about me. And I find the "listening and learning" comments somewhat obnoxious. But I also don't want the woc to think I'm just chatting about shopping while they're having the convo bc I think it is valuable.
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Post by petrichor on Jun 1, 2017 21:22:01 GMT -6
This is a very good bullet point list of what was talked about in the UO this morning. And oddly perfect in its timing. It would be fantastic to always have a timely, bulleted list of UO each week. |
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Post by petrichor on Jun 1, 2017 21:24:40 GMT -6
As a white woman married to a black man, I sometimes don't know where I fit in discussions about race or discrimination or whatnot.
I don't experience certain things, but I have to raise my boys to face it.
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Post by Lord Disick on Jun 1, 2017 21:26:38 GMT -6
TIL what AAVE is. But I love this list. It very nicely sums up everything that was being said in the UO this morning. I just spent a very long time reading the AAVE Wikipedia page thanks to this article. |
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Post by brux on Jun 1, 2017 21:27:03 GMT -6
This is a very good bullet point list of what was talked about in the UO this morning. And oddly perfect in its timing. It would be fantastic to always have a timely, bulleted list of UO each week. just pay closer attention to your FB feed because someone is out there lurking on you and your UO thread ::cue creepy music:: |
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Post by brux on Jun 1, 2017 21:27:18 GMT -6
TIL what AAVE is. But I love this list. It very nicely sums up everything that was being said in the UO this morning. I just spent a very long time reading the AAVE Wikipedia page thanks to this article. i did too! |
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Post by Lord Disick on Jun 1, 2017 21:27:55 GMT -6
I just spent a very long time reading the AAVE Wikipedia page thanks to this article. i did too! I've had a little too much wine to understand all the technical stuff though. |
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Post by bunnyfungo on Jun 1, 2017 21:30:15 GMT -6
This article is spot on. I don't get uncomfortable when we have the convos today in UO. I used to but it's something I read a lot about it and I'm beyond the discomfort stage. But I do question how to respond, bc I read and I don't want to contribute bc it's not my convo nor do I want to make it about me. And I find the "listening and learning" comments somewhat obnoxious. But I also don't want the woc to think I'm just chatting about shopping while they're having the convo bc I think it is valuable. I might not be the right person to respond here, but in my social justice groups, we use "holding space." It is a way to say you validate someone's experiences and walk with them. Again, anyone can correct me if this isn't appropriate. |
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Post by Cher on Jun 1, 2017 21:30:43 GMT -6
It would be fantastic to always have a timely, bulleted list of UO each week. just pay closer attention to your FB feed because someone is out there lurking on you and your UO thread ::cue creepy music:: We will see it on that other site's FB page tomorrow. |
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Post by lonefox on Jun 1, 2017 21:31:24 GMT -6
TIL what AAVE is. But I love this list. It very nicely sums up everything that was being said in the UO this morning. I just spent a very long time reading the AAVE Wikipedia page thanks to this article. I am apparently bi-dialectal. Who knew? |
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Post by brux on Jun 1, 2017 21:33:33 GMT -6
I just spent a very long time reading the AAVE Wikipedia page thanks to this article. I am apparently bi-dialectal. Who knew? Maybe add it to a resume if/when you head back into the work force. ;-) |
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Post by Bluebird on Jun 1, 2017 21:34:04 GMT -6
I appreciate this and the discussion in the UO today. I was going to save this for my FFFC tomorrow, but I don't have much diversity IMRL, that's something that I feel uncomfortable with, and I don't really know how to change it. However, it's important to me to be conscious and respectful and to raise my son that way too. I want to know how to be better.
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Post by lonefox on Jun 1, 2017 21:34:36 GMT -6
I am apparently bi-dialectal. Who knew? Maybe add it to a resume if/when you head back into the work force. ;-) Get out of my brain! |
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Post by Bluebird on Jun 1, 2017 21:35:41 GMT -6
This article is spot on. I don't get uncomfortable when we have the convos today in UO. I used to but it's something I read a lot about it and I'm beyond the discomfort stage. But I do question how to respond, bc I read and I don't want to contribute bc it's not my convo nor do I want to make it about me. And I find the "listening and learning" comments somewhat obnoxious. But I also don't want the woc to think I'm just chatting about shopping while they're having the convo bc I think it is valuable. And now I feel awkward for my listening and learning post. 😬 |
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Post by Cher on Jun 1, 2017 21:41:40 GMT -6
Bluebird, don't listen to me, I'm not the intended audience for those comments. So I was just noting how they make me feel, but I may be completely off-base.
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Post by ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ on Jun 1, 2017 21:44:14 GMT -6
It would be fantastic to always have a timely, bulleted list of UO each week. just pay closer attention to your FB feed because someone is out there lurking on you and your UO thread ::cue creepy music:: Spoiler so you only see it once. |
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Post by Lord Disick on Jun 1, 2017 21:48:44 GMT -6
just pay closer attention to your FB feed because someone is out there lurking on you and your UO thread ::cue creepy music::  This is very upsetting. |
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Post by ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ on Jun 1, 2017 21:51:32 GMT -6
I hate/love it, Lord Disick. I have laughed out loud multiple times today over that fucking gif. |
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Post by jennybeans on Jun 2, 2017 4:31:43 GMT -6
I lurk these threads and always learn something/get a new perspective. So thank you all for that. I read an article linked in the comments of this one that I thought did a really good job going through the 'why' part of the discussion and what privilege means for a white person. I 'knew' most of this information but hadn't thought about it this way so it put the discussion in a different light for me. billmoyers.com/story/odds-required-viewing-white-progressives/ |
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Post by sweptaway on Jun 2, 2017 5:42:35 GMT -6
I read this a few days ago and thought of it as I was reading yesterday but I wasn't participating in the UO at that point.
I've definitely said some foot in mouth things that came from a well meaning place but were not the right thing. I'm grateful when someone takes the time to correct me but I know it's no one's "job" and it must be exhausting for poc.
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Post by hawkward on Jun 2, 2017 5:53:13 GMT -6
Thank you for sharing this. Some of the points really hit home with me, especially 7.
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Post by ouiserboudreaux on Jun 2, 2017 5:59:32 GMT -6
I've been trying to figure out what I want to say but I suck at words before coffee. Basically I'll just +1 every thing that Cher said and echo Bunny that "holding space" is what I've seen in my SJ groups as well. I am glad that this is prevalent topic of discussion here and super grateful for those taking the time/energy to educate when they most certainly don't have to.❤️
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 6:11:20 GMT -6
Thank you for sharing this
Formerly known as katechristine
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 6:13:43 GMT -6
I love this article. Thank you for sharing!
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Post by yellowwallpaper on Jun 2, 2017 6:17:47 GMT -6
Great article. Thanks for sharing brux. |
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